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Big Line Updated

by: Colorado Pols

Wed Dec 16, 2009 at 18:01:54 PM MST

We'll get into more of the details tomorrow, but three new names to discuss:

Dan Maes (R) for Governor.
The GOP obviously thinks the "Tea Party" movement is a serious electoral problem/opportunity in 2010. Maes is their only outlet against Scott McInnis, and he'll only go as far as the tea bags take him. His success will show whether the "Tea Party" is a real movement or just a handful of loud, angry people.

Dean Madere (R) in CD-4.
In any other year, in any other climate, Madere is probably a complete non-starter. But he has the most "Tea Party" support, and in a four-way primary, that could get him to the general election. Remember the chaos of the 2006 CD-5 primary? It won't take that many votes to win a four-way race.

Lang Sias (R) in CD-7.
He readily admits that he doesn't even live in the district, but neither did Bob Beauprez when he was first elected here in 2002. Being endorsed by John McCain isn't that big of a deal; the fact that he is connected enough to make that happen says a lot.

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Maybe they're right

According to Pols:

The GOP obviously thinks the "Tea Party" movement is a serious electoral problem/opportunity in 2010.

According to today's NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll:

But, for the first time in more than two years, the Democratic Party also now holds a net-negative rating, 35 percent to 45 percent.
By comparison, the conservative libertarian-leaning Tea Party movement has a net-positive 41 percent to 23 percent score in the poll.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno

by: Ralphie @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 02:13:53 AM UTC

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Kirk Nemer

I keep telling you guys... Kirk Nemer.

by: Aaron Silverstein @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 02:32:11 AM UTC

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You keep telling us...

..but we still don't know what he's running for.

by: Leonard Smalls @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 03:07:23 AM UTC

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I'll believe they're serious...

...when they agree to an interview :)

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by: DavidThi808 @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 03:08:59 AM UTC

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This cracks me up...

from Dan Maes' website:

"To Dan, Tee Time has to do with small plastic dishes around a toddler sized table with pretend Tea rather than 5 hours away from family."

by: crazypoliticians @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 04:35:46 AM UTC

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CD4 is ripe

Cory Gardner had all year to wrap this thing up. He couldn't do it even with no competition (no offense, Tom Lucero). With Markey getting the blue-dog collar, she'll be tough. If the GOP intends to make a serious run, it won't be with Cory; it'll have to be with someone else. "Madere" sounds good

by: Taxosaurus @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 04:39:40 AM UTC

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Let Colorado go to the Tea Partiers.

If we think things are screwed up now, just wait until those folks get done with it. Coloradans will be moving to California!

by: OneEyedOwl @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 05:07:11 AM UTC

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Never

We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

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by: DavidThi808 @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 05:30:26 AM UTC

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I'd love to see the British Fleet

sailing up the Platte, the Arkansas, and the Colorado to save Our Fair State.

by: OneEyedOwl @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 16:05:32 PM UTC

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The line on Polis is an insult

He has made mistakes but he is a sharp individual and is doing some good things for his district.

The thumbs down by Pols has little to do with Polis' performance. All Pols can bitch about is that the guy is rich and would be wiped out by a real Democrat the next time.

Earth to Pols: Jared Polis is a real Democrat and will probably be around much longer than Markey or Perlmutter. There is no organized competition from the left or the right in this race so from a purely political point of view, the line should be 1-1 because the guy is going to win in a walk.

I'd bet that Colorado Pols is more offended by Polis the person than Polis the politician and is letting his personal likes and dislikes color his political calculations. Rating this race as 4-1 and going down is a joke. Nobody should believe it and it throws all the other lines into question.

by: Gilpin Guy @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 12:04:27 PM UTC

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Well said....

and I wholeheartedly agree.

"But when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." Glenn Beck

by: Arvadonian @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 15:03:10 PM UTC

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2-1

Didn't they also have Marilyn Musgrave at 2-1 about this time two years ago? Look where she where she ended up. POLITICAL GRAVEYARD! My point is a lot can happen between now and then, and pols predictions are sometimes way off the mark.

by: onebigrepublican @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 16:12:16 PM UTC

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This time two years ago

Musgrave didn't have an opponent yet.

by: Colorado Pols @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 16:54:12 PM UTC

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But on the Polis issue

You're letting your personal dislike color your view of him. That's normal - you're human like the rest of us. But Jared is doing a great job and has a ton of support in his district.

Like Gilpin Guy said - a 4:1 rating is a joke.

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by: DavidThi808 @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 16:57:29 PM UTC

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There are several people who write under the Pols banner

So personal opinion is not the issue.

by: Colorado Pols @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 18:57:56 PM UTC

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Musgrave didn't have an opponent yet.

To be consistent here, neither does Polis.

by: RedGreen @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 17:07:35 PM UTC

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LOL

Good catch RedGreen.

by: onebigrepublican @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 20:11:10 PM UTC

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What is the...

name of Polis' opponent?

"But when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." Glenn Beck

by: Arvadonian @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 21:18:25 PM UTC

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Yeah, yeah

It's all one big conspiracy if you don't agree.

Polis was a big problem on health care reform and had a major hiccup on net neutrality. Those are the kinds of mistakes that lose elections, but it won't happen to Polis because he can self-fund to any degree necessary.

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I don't think it's the self-funding

It's that people are accepting of the fact that Jared is not going to toe the liberal line 100% of the time. I was mad at what he did on the health care funding stuff too - but that doesn't mean I don't support him.

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by: DavidThi808 @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 16:58:52 PM UTC

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It also won't happen because it's such a safe district

but I agree with Pols at least in that Polis is lucky he's both rich and in a can't lose distict. I take the 4:1 as an indication of that.

by: BlueCat @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 17:46:59 PM UTC

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Also just got around to this later Wed stuff

and this is the first time I've noticed the slight Ritter up-tick from dead even with McInnis. Hope you're right.

No outcry from the Romanoff supporters over the 20:1 rating in that race? What happened to all his diehard supporters?

by: BlueCat @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 17:55:23 PM UTC

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Are there any here?

Bennet haters certainly, but diehard Romanoff supporters?

"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

12/15/11 - RIP squeaky duck. You were plush, loved and finally ripped apart after over a year.

by: droll @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 18:06:15 PM UTC

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Hmmm...

by: BlueCat @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 18:48:28 PM UTC

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I disagree with the narrative that Polis

is against Net Neutrality. If you are talking about the letter he signed and sent to FCC Chairman Genachowski, he didn't see it as a bad thing. If anyone in Congress understands the potential and pitfalls of the Internet it is going to be Polis.

Here is the email I got from him on the subject on October 27th.

My district staff including Nissa Erickson made me aware of your interest in internet neutrality. My background in the internet content business gives me a special interest in maintaining a free and open internet. Open access is a critical governing philosophy to ensure the future growth and dynamism of the internet. That's why I wrote a letter to the FCC in support of their pending net neutrality principles, a document that I also sought and received signatures of other members of Congress. I continue to educate my colleagues on this important matter and convince them of the importance of supporting net neutrality.

Congressman Jared Polis

FYI: Conspirators always claim there is no conspiracy. This constant harping about his wealth and claiming it is the only reason he got elected is a false narrative. If he had run the same campaign that Will Shafroth did promoting himself as a centrist he wouldn't have won. He ran as a strong Democrat and it resonated with the Democratic base in district two. Colorado Pols doesn't know what he is writing about when he claims that money is the only thing that Polis has going for him.

by: Gilpin Guy @ Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 01:45:33 AM UTC

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The changes Pols made to the 4th CD Line

do remind, sure haven't heard much from those Markey challengers lately. Maybe they're just running quiet, neighborhood gathering campaigns, but weren't they all more visible three and six months ago? Even Diggs, who was absent from his own campaign?

by: RedGreen @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 17:53:34 PM UTC

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They all have money issues

And need to raise a good amount in Q4 since they'll have to spend before the caucus. They're probably all on the phones.

by: Colorado Pols @ Thu Dec 17, 2009 at 18:59:30 PM UTC

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Soooooo....