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Michelle Malkin Prefers The Misquote

by: Colorado Pols

Thu Nov 19, 2009 at 08:55:44 AM MST


From the Colorado Independent:

Colorado U.S. Rep. Diana DeGette drew venom from conservative and Catholic bloggers yesterday for comments she made to ABC on the role Catholic bishops should be playing in shaping health care reform. But the venom was based on misquotes of the ABC interview published at The Hill, a political news website. Colorado right-wing blogger Michelle Malkin led the charge on DeGette with an acid-dipped post diluted almost not at all by a half-hearted update/correction later posted at the bottom.

ABC asked DeGette if she thought the Catholic Bishops would "be willing to look at compromised language from the Senate" on the Stupak amendment.

"I gotta tell you," said DeGette, clearly taken aback by the notion that senators would be seeking approval from bishops.

"Last I heard there was separation of church and state in this country. I don't think the Catholic bishops are in charge of writing our health care bill. I think they're one of many groups we should be listening to," she told ABC.

The Hill heard it differently, however, and reported that "DeGette said... religiously affiliated groups like the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops... should be shut out of the process." The quote from DeGette The Hill then reprinted was as wrong as it was provocative: "I've got to say that I think the Catholic bishops and all of the other groups shouldn't have input."

Catholic bloggers jumped on the quote, as did the conservative Family Research Council, which sent out a press release calling on the president and congressional leaders to "repudiate Diana DeGette's religious bigotry."

Malkin was predictably half-cocked and raging, even getting Diana DeGette's name wrong in the roaring headline: "Calling Dianne DeGette's bigotry and ignorance out"...

About as egregious a "misquote" as you can imagine, almost 180 degrees from accurate. The reporter for The Hill, Michael O'Brien, went so far as to email Malkin to correct the record:

Hi Michelle,

I saw your blog on Rep. DeGette, and I felt obligated to set the record straight. I screwed up and misheard DeGette during her interview. She said religious groups should have input on healthcare, but not the final say. I updated my post last night to reflect this, and have been working with FRC to correct the quote.

I apologize for the misunderstanding, and I feel totally embarrassed - but I really wanted to flag this for accuracy...

From Malkin's reply, we're guessing she preferred the, um, uncorrected version.

Sounds to me like Mike must have gotten a lot of blowback from DeGette. The new, revised quote doesn't make much sense...

Well, not if your goal is hysterics, no it doesn't. And how much do you want to bet the Family Research Council won't correct at all? Not when the misquote is what they want to hear.

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Funny...
I don't remember this outrage when racist quotes were made up and attributed to Limbaugh.  And posted on this blog.

"Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"  

If you misquote Rush...
it dosen't absolve him of all of his correctly attibuted racist quotes from before.  

Boo hoo.  Rush is still a racist, so why would there be such outrage ?  Is Rush a guy who worked so hard for racial harmony that was unjustly maligned ?  Is he going to need grief counseling ?  The horror.

"Good judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from bad judgement" - Jim Horning


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quite right
Limbaugh has expressed horrendous views. His inability to buy a football team should give some credence to his insensitivity. The NFL would never approve it.  

How about a 5 trillion tax cut for the upper 1% that's borrowed from China  and then invested in China? The Republican platform has legs.

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Nice non sequitur
Which FDN points out nicely.

This is clearly an attempt by Malkin to further polarize people on the issue of health car,e by trying to play the tried and true "secular liberal hates all Christians" card.

Perhaps Malkin's next move will be to try to block Rep. DeGette's annual war on Christmas. Tis the season after all.

"Nice driveby spin" -- Libertad

"This site is filled simpletons..." -- JO


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Limbaugh misquote?
I'm sure you'll answer me with "mwah" or something equally infantile, but which Limbaugh quote that the Guvs have posted is wrong? I guess I'd prefer to not use it if it is, so I'm asking legitimately.

Mwah!


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Mwah.
The slavery one and the James Earl Wray were both false.


"Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"  

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Well,
It apparently came out during the recent flap over Limbaugh buying into an NFL team (we just looked into this) that the James Earl Ray quote is indeed false--after it was repeated by many news outlets. We used this quote for our January 30th open thread. We won't defend it, it's now known to be a bad quote and we have removed it.

We haven't found where we used the other one, though we've found many other places on the internet complaining about both of these quotes together. Perhaps that's where you saw it.


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No worries.
I hadn't seen the slavery one here - I was just trying to help my new BFF out.

"Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"  

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Misquoting Limbaugh
is virtually guaranteed to be an improvement, since there's nowhere to go but up.

We're all in this story together: Let's make sure that we write it well.
http://www.steveharveyforcolor...


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So she gets to decide what the quote is?
The new, revised quote doesn't make much sense...

The thing is, Malkin handled everything fairly at first because she had every reason to believe the quote was accurate. All she had to do was blame the source and back off her initial post.

Instead she basically says she prefers the made up quote so she can run with her umbrage - even though she now knows it has no basis in truth.

I think that speaks to Malkin's integrity (none) and motivations (wreak havoc) very clearly.

Amazon tax? Bad Idea!


I Support Freedom of Speech, But...
When people blatantly and maliciously misquote a person damaging that person's reputation, shouldn't there be some consequences. Why would Rep. DeGette not have a libel case here?

People like Michelle Malkin are poor human beings and are bad for this country. Throw her in the category of Rush and Sean, and countless others. They only have one interest at heart - their own pockets. They intentionally mislead the public in an effort not to change the system in any way, but to simply get more attention.  


Rep. DeGette may not have a libel case.
.
working on the theory that she could be considered a public figure.  

So, she says she's solicitous of the Catholic Bishops on how their views on abortion should translate into law, and you believe her ?  
What about her track record, which actually is pretty consistent with what is now being called a misquote ?
.


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That's Not What She's Saying at All
She's not saying she personally is open to their views on abortion. What she is saying is that members of the Catholic Church are a large constituency and, therefore, their concerns should be heard.

Furthermore, she is saying that as leaders of a non-profit organization that receives tax exemptions as a religious establishment, the Bishops should not be helping write ANY legislation.

There is a huge difference between a Bishop expressing his concerns to his congressman, and actively lobbying all of congress about what should be included in the bill.

It's just too bad that no one has the guts to take away the Church's tax status.


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Additionally...
Is it right that simply because you are a public figure anyone can maliciously misrepresent your character no matter how damaging?

Rep. DeGette has never said she is against the Catholic Church. Only that she disagrees with their stance on abortion. There is much more to this world than the abortion issue.


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Half of the members....
of the Catholic Church in the United States don't agree with the church's position on abortion and birth control....does that mean that they are against the Catholic Church?

"But when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining."  Glenn Beck  

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Generally,
public figures don't press for libel and slander because they have the means to respond to the misquotes and claims through the media. Private individuals don't have the media access public figures do.

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I See Your Point, But...
That is quite an assumption to make. And why should any individual, public or private, be treated differently than another under the law.

Where is the deterrent to prevent such slanderous actions from occurring. Especially when political gains can be made from it. Or even worse, when profit can be made from it.

 


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Also public figures could use the threat of suing
as a tool to suppress information that is critical to them.  An unsavory politician might not want the public to know certain things about his behavior and could threaten to sue to suppress the story.  The press hasn't covered itself with glory lately but it is understood that public officials can't intimidate the press with threats of lawsuits.

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However...
In such a case, couldn't the press have a counter-claim for a frivolous lawsuit? And how is that different than any other individual? Anyone can threaten to sue.  

I still see no legal reason why some individuals are given more protection by the law than others.

The media must be held accountable for intentionally spreading lies about individuals in an attempt to ruin that person's reputation. When it comes to politics, one scandelous rumor, even if completely false, can ruin a career.  


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Right.
And so you'd encourage Rush to sue for libel?

"Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"  

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It's true that it doesn't make sense
The original misquote is nothing like the corrected quote.  Mike O'Brien can't possibly have "misheard" the latter as the former.  

First quote:  "I've got to say that I think the Catholic bishops and all of the other groups shouldn't have input."

Corrected quote: "I gotta tell you, last I heard there was separation of church and state in this country. I don't think the Catholic bishops are in charge of writing our health care bill. I think they're one of many groups we should be listening to"

Since he made the correction, I presume that the corrected quote is the accurate one.  But he needs a better story than "misheard" because that doesn't fly.


no surprise
The right wing, which contrary to misconception controls by far the majority of the media, doesn't believe in journalistic ethics anymore.

How about a 5 trillion tax cut for the upper 1% that's borrowed from China  and then invested in China? The Republican platform has legs.

I can't stand
Michelle Malkin...she's full of wrong information and she's so hard nosed on stuff. Blah.  

DeGettes has a big target on her back
She is unabashedly pro-women and the extremists on the right want to do everything possible to frame her as an out of the mainstream leftest extremists.

It's kind of funny that extremists are calling her an extremist and because she is an extremist her views aren't valid.

You would think that there would be actual footage of the interview that could be brought out to determine her exact sentence.  How tough would that be.  When Fox got caught swapping tape for the DC teabag rally, Hannity said it was inadvertent and everyone accepted his explanation.  I wonder why Malkin doesn't accept this reporters misquote as inadvertent also?


Nice try, Pols!
but I still can't bring myself to defend DeGette.  next!

Don't be such a baby.
I did it for Tancredo.  To the extent of being labeled a right wing troll.

Have you ever sworn at DeGette?  How about in public?  Loudly, with your finger in her chest (not recommending that, I'd be sad if you were charged with something)?

Suck it up, Ms. Facts.

"Don't go all "Ralphie" on me now: Just let it go." - Steve Harvey


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well, ain't you a brave little toaster!
I myself ain't that strong.  I couldn't bear to be called a troll, regardless of wing.  Hits too close to home, ya know.  Still, I can promise not to place my hands anywhere near a congresswoman's chest (or man's).  For now.

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Typical troll
Always trumpeting how well he plays by the rules and how everyone else owes him an apology because he's the victim.

Typical behavior with little merit.


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you are not living up to your almost label of GGG.
Dan Savage might slap you.  Failing that, my backhand is free.

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GGG?
I'm unfamiliar with the term.  Is it suppose to be an insult?

As far as getting the back of your hand, I didn't know that iPhones can now send tactile messages.  That's OK.  My skin is so old and wrinkled that you're hand will probably to get caught in the folds like Brer Rabbit in the tar patch.  Having a thick skin has its advantages.


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No, it's a compliment
"GGG stands for 'good, giving, and game,' which is what we should all strive to be for our sex partners. Think 'good in bed,' 'giving equal time and equal pleasure,' and 'game for anything-within reason.'"

Not that you and droll are in a sexual relationship (although with all the anonymity around here, who can tell anymore?).

"You need to move past Fourier transforms and start thinking quantum mechanics!" --The Transformers


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"defend DGette"?
What the hell does that have to do with it? DeGette was misquoted. The correction was put out. Malkin is being nasty, as usual. This is about accepting facts about DeGette, not about defending DeGette.

"America is not yet lost. But the Senate is working on it."--Paul Krugman

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don't get loud with me, Di


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