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October 22, 2009 07:22 PM UTC

GOP Worries Beck, Limbaugh More Harmful than Good

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Well, duh.

As Politico reports:

Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.

Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh – figures who are wildly popular with the conservative base but wildly controversial among other parts of the electorate, and who have proven records of making life miserable for senators and House members critical of their views or influence.

Some of the leading 2012 candidates are described by operatives as grappling with the same tension. The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party – the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda – without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme…

…some Republicans worry the party could squander an opportunity to capitalize on voters’ concerns about Obama and the Democratic Congress because they come off looking shallow, sharply partisan or just plain odd to persuadable voters.

Warning of the influence of the Fox host, who recently accused Obama of racism against whites, George W. Bush White House veteran Peter Wehner wrote last month: “Beck seems to be a roiling mix of fear, resentment and anger – the antithesis of Ronald Reagan.”

Still, these concerns apparently are not powerful enough to prompt most elected Republicans to take public stands against the rhetoric coming from the web of conservative talk show hosts, websites and public activists.

Ed Gillespie, who was counselor to Bush and has started a conservative group called Resurgent Republicans, said his polling shows rising numbers of persuadable voters who are growing disenchanted with the Obama administration’s policies but nevertheless remain invested in the president.

“Our party has to bring those voters along with a critique of policies, not the kind of harsh rhetoric the left used against former President Bush,” Gillespie said.

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15 thoughts on “GOP Worries Beck, Limbaugh More Harmful than Good

    1. It’s non-insane Republicans who are worried that the far-right Republicans you claim aren’t in the mainstream of your party continue to wield this much power, they will blow their chances at winning back the Senate.

      Right now there aren’t any leaders in the GOP outside of Beck and Limbaugh. That has to change for Republicans to exploit whatever misgivings people have about Obama and the Democrats.

    2. In my experience, anything any Republican thinks anywhere is front-page Politico news. But if you’d prefer to imagine this is all a liberal conspiracy to shut down Republicans, be my guest. Beck and Limbaugh get great ratings among the lizardbrains, but somehow the general public seems to find their White Pride a little distasteful. There just aren’t enough angry white men anymore to base your entire electoral strategy on them.

      For the first time in a long time, we essentially have the entire southeast of the country on one side of every debate and huge majorities of the rest of the country on the other side. The Republicans have to start appealing to the rest of the country again if they want power back. Instead Beck and Limbaugh are leading them all into the bunker.

    3. The sea of angry white men at the last Republican convention represent the shrinking base they are still playing to. Beck and Limbaugh’s “People”.

      What really has the GOP peeing in their pants is the nugget buried in the recent Public Option in the majority poll

      Only 20 percent of adults identify themselves as Republicans, little changed in recent months, but still the lowest single number in Post-ABC polls since 1983. Political independents continue to make up the largest group, at 42 percent of respondents; 33 percent call themselves Democrats.

      If the GOP hadn’t been so slow on the uptake re: Limbaugh, et al, in oh say, 2007, they wouldn’t have suffered the embarassment of Sarah Palin, and had a more competitive race in 2008.

      If they ever understand the difference between mere dissatisfaction and pure disgust, maybe they’ll have a chance.  Too bad there’s no hope for a rebirth of a viable third party.

      We Dems shouldn’t have to carry the entire load.

      1. So many here keep referring to one slanted poll and its 20% number.Do you really believe that’s really true, or that it matters a year away from the midterms?

        Politics are cyclical.  I think one would have to be kidding themselves to believe otherwise.

        Plus, there are many factors that will come into play that will have much more effect than self-identification.

        In fact, the 9-point drop in the most recent quarter is the largest Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953.

        Harry, the Dems aren’t even carrying their own load.  WHat happened yesterday with the sleight-of-hand Medicare extension that went down in flames in the Senate?

        1. The point of this diary, LB, is that the GOP is finally realizing that the Faustian bargain they made actually has consequences.

          I’ve always been an advocate for a strong two party system.  But as I’ve written publicly in the past, I’m just not so sure the GOP is my second choice.

        2. LB, I also meant to add (which addresses your poll link) that a minority of Independents and Dems are currently dissatisfied with Obama’s performance to date.

          The wingnut birthers, etc. are disgusted with him.

          Resolving the dissatisfaction is well within Obama’s grasp; resolving the disgust isn’t.

          But since that’s the 20% fringe, who cares?  That’s what the GOP hasn’t learned to distinguish between — by being a reasoned opponent, not the knee-jerk reactionaries they are currently.

          As for Obama’s poll numbers, I’ll start paying more attention to them in 2011.

        3. which must clearly mean that after Republicans had their chance for 12 years to demonstrate how great they were at running Congress, and suffering overwhelming defeats, everyone is super-eager four years later to give them another chance.

          If you believe in cycles at all, you might imagine that they last longer than the attention span of the average gnat.

          People don’t like Republicans. That’s more true now than it was in 1993 or 1994. Do you have evidence otherwise?

          This isn’t a joke. Do you have evidence otherwise?

          Do you have any reason to believe Republicans are more popular now than they were in 2006? I’m not asking about Democrats, who are doubtless less popular. Are Republicans more popular?

          No. Not even a little bit. Not at all. Not in the slightest. People are unhappy for various reasons, most of which are related to the economy, but nobody has concluded that Republicans have a better option.

          Why? Because White Power will only get you so far. White Power doesn’t fix the economy. White Power doesn’t solve the housing crisis. White Power doesn’t generate jobs.

          Democrats will probably lose seats in 2010, but the White Power Party will be surprised just how limited their gains are.

  1. The GOP currently thinks winning the primary is more important than winning the general election.  I’m amazed at how politically suicidal they are.  It is so, well, willful!  Like they can’t drink the poisoned kool-aid fast enough even as others drop around them…

    Kind of a big problem!

    The FIRST big name GOP to come out and REALLY kick the shit out of Limbaugh, Beck and the other Professional American Haters I will mail them a campaign donation!  

    And it has to be more than Lindsey Graham did.  He was heading the right direction but I believe was more motivated in his comments by his friendship for John McCain (Beck and Rush both bashed Big Mac as we remember) than any other reason.  No, my money will go to the first Republican of note who starts the unstoppable civil war in the GOP between the elected officials and the PAH!  I would prefer to see this conflict start with armies marched into enemy territory blowing up everything in sight and scorching the earth behind them instead of pin-prick limited warfare.  I want this to be bloody, then finally resolved.  Either the GOP regains its senses and beats back the ugly PAH insurgency with hope and common sense or the PAH wins with fear/smear/hate, the GOP brand becomes as valuable as the dixiecrat brand and the right falls into complete political chaos for generations…

    I’m rooting for the GOP in general because I think having two parties SANELY disagreeing with each other is paramount to the survival of this Republic.

    Currently the democrats are engaged in a war of wits with an un-armed GOP and it is hurting our political system!

  2. on Limbaugh lambasting the NYT’s best science reporter, Andy Revkin.  Pretty fascinating look into Limbaugh’s ticker, considering Revkin is one of the most balanced and knowledgeable journalists covering climate change.  I’ve interacted with Revkin a bunch of times and he’s so far from Limbaugh caricature it’s just bizarre.  I don’t expect most people to know enough background on an issue like that, but hopefully the tone and histrionics are enough to get people to smell the fish.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/s

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