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April 10, 2017 06:48 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“The crisis of today is the joke of tomorrow.”

–H. G. Wells


23 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. Is Trump about to swing to the left? Or at least the center?

    There are reports that with Jared Kushner and Ivanka having Trump's ear, Bannon and Preibus may soon be history. And if the House GOP can't repeal and replace, Trump may cut a deal with the GOP Tuesday Group and the Dems to fix Obamacare.  

  2. KKKrazee Uncle Pat is in the news again.  Those dern homosexuals are really getting under his skin.  Hey, they're only a tiny part of the population – why should they matter? Didn't Drumpf make a promise?  What is this world coming to when a crazy old white guy can amass a fortune on the backs of small black children and naive old ladies glued to their TV (estimated to be between $200 million and $1 billion) – and all of his fortunes STILL aren't enough to keep them from dominating him. 

    Here's an idea, Unky….(hint: you're doing it wrong, you crazy old goat)


  3. Encouraging news about Merrick Garland:

    How Merrick Garland could torment Trump

    The spurned Supreme Court nominee has had a lot to say about deregulatory initiatives like the one the president's pushing.

    lawyers say the centerpiece of Trump’s executive order on deregulation — the two-for-one requirement — gives plenty of fuel to legal challenges to any moves agencies make to roll back environmental, worker safety or other rules. It allows plaintiffs to claim that the revocation was done primarily to satisfy Trump’s numerical quota.

    “That order is unconstitutional, illegal and stupid,”

    Kinda sums up the entire Trump Administration — mark my words!

  4. Take it from someone who lived through the alternate-reality disaster in Venezula – we are facing the same thing, and may be kidding ourselves if we think we know how to counter Trumpism:

    Many people have been too eager to blame post-truthism and the rise of Trump on a deficiency of education. On sheer showmanship and “sentimental politics,” whatever that is. On the rise of new, data-driven polling and marketing techniques. Some even blame Hollywood. In short: A stupefied populace, prodded listlessly by social media and big data, voted for Trump precisely out of the stupidity of his rhetoric.

    To Trump voters, a fake reality—especially one laden with obvious enemies and golden promises—is better than nothing, or more of the same.

    But this is beyond offensive: It is intellectually lazy. It attempts to explain the Trump phenomenon only by the supply-side of the equation—with what he was proffering. What about the very human demand he tapped into? It is not an army of gullible slouches and racists on sofas with guns, smartphones and a brief vocabulary who brought Trump to power—but rather a large, disenfranchised, chunk of society that was promised meaning through social mobility, got none of it, and after almost a generation of stagnating wages still had no clear, coherent answer to the question: Why, after so many years of work, am I still suffering?

    Trump’s Republican primary contenders couldn’t answer that question. Hillary Clinton couldn’t either. And certainly none of them proposed a fix—or a new ethos to replace the flailing “American Dream” ideal. Trump did all of the above—constructing an alternate reality that gave his supporters a concise answer to their question, and the hope of a solution. It doesn’t matter that it’s all bogus. To Trump voters, a fake reality—especially one laden with obvious enemies and golden promises—is better than nothing, or more of the same.


    Sorry for the sloppy cut and paste. Here is the link to the full article which I recommend reading:

  5. You want to live the reality of Venezuela, elect Bernie Sanders or Liz Warren. More in a long line of hysterical thought from a group that can't grasp that America didn't want Climton. She lost and American won. 

    Welcome Justice Gorsuch.

    1. Ummm……  "Climton?"  Bernie will be, what, 79 in 2020 and not running. Warren should be smart enough to understand that she has a good podium right where she is at.

      Have you ever been to Venezuela? I was there, fortunately in the pre-Chavez and Maduro happier times. Sad to see what a fascist & populist government, masquerading as socialism, has done to a once prosperous country.

      I was also in Argentina in early 2002, when the peso collapsed thanks to Peron-style fascism & populism. The people no longer wanted or accepted pesos where I was. And they didn't want Euros either since that currency was still new. US dollars and British pounds ruled.

      1. My brother's saying exactly the same things, C.H.B. He was in Columbia in the early aughts. He knows a kleptocracy, run by an incompetent bully, when he sees one. 

  6. Keep winning whining, Trump Trolls

    Written by Rosa Figueroa, posted by Robert Reich

    1. He said he wouldn’t bomb Syria. You bought it. Then he bombed Syria.

    2. He said he'd build a wall along the border with Mexico. You bought it. Now his secretary of homeland security says "It’s unlikely that we will build a wall."

    3. He said he’d clean the Washington swamp. You bought it. Then he brought into his administration more billionaires, CEOs, and Wall Street moguls than in any administration in history, to make laws that will enrich their businesses.

    4. He said he’d repeal Obamacare and replace it with something “wonderful.” You bought it. Then he didn’t.

    5. He said he’d use his business experience to whip the White House into shape. You bought it. Then he created the most chaotic, dysfunctional, back-stabbing White House in modern history, in which no one is in charge.

    6. He said he’d release his tax returns, eventually. You bought it. He hasn’t, and says he never will.

    7. He said he’d divest himself from his financial empire, to avoid any conflicts of interest. You bought it. He remains heavily involved in his businesses, makes money off of foreign dignitaries staying at his Washington hotel, gets China to give the Trump brand trademark and copyright rights, manipulates the stock market on a daily basis, and has more conflicts of interest than can even be counted.

    8. He said Clinton was in the pockets of Goldman Sachs, and would do whatever they said. You bought it. Then he put half a dozen Goldman Sachs executives in positions of power in his administration.

    9. He said he’d surround himself with all the best and smartest people. You bought it. Then he put Betsy DeVos, opponent of public education, in charge of education; Jeff Sessions, opponent of the Voting Rights Act, in charge of voting rights; Ben Carson, opponent of the Fair Housing Act, in charge of fair housing; Scott Pruitt, climate change denier, in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency; and Russian quisling Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State.

    10. He said he’d faithfully execute the law. You bought it. Then he said his predecessor, Barack Obama, spied on him, without any evidence of Obama ever doing so, in order to divert attention from the FBI's investigation into collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives to win the election.

    11. He said he knew more about strategy and terrorism than the generals did. You bought it. Then he promptly gave the green light to a disastrous raid in Yemen- even though all his generals said it would be a terrible idea. This raid resulted in the deaths of a Navy SEAL, an 8-year old American girl, and numerous civilians. The actual target of the raid escaped, and no useful intel was gained.

    12. He called Barack Obama “the vacationer-in-Chief” and accused him of playing more rounds of golf than Tiger Woods. He promised to never be the kind of president who took cushy vacations on the taxpayer’s dime, not when there was so much important work to be done. You bought it. He has by now spent more taxpayer money on vacations than Obama did in the first 3 years of his presidency. Not to mention all the money taxpayers are spending protecting his family, including his two sons who travel all over the world on Trump business.

    13. He called CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times “fake news” and said they were his enemy. You bought it. Now he gets his information from Fox News, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, and InfoWars.

    More to come.

    1. Slinging mud is easy. Making factual arguments is hard. What in that list of 13 items do you have a factual issue with, Protuberant Pretender?

        1. Wow. We agree. The contradictions between what DJT says, and what he does are in fact batshit crazy.

          The fact that his supporters (including you, apparently) believed him, and still believe him, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, is also "Unabomber" crazy.


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