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April 22, 2009 03:20 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“It is impossible to persuade a man who does not disagree, but smiles.”

–Muriel Spark

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  1. If that implies that it is possible to persuade a man who does disagree and snarls, then most of the ‘Pubs on this site should be comin’ ’round to my way of thinking any day now.

    Like a whole litter of Darth Vadars in the last scene of “Return of the Jedi.” Come on, Dads! You can do it!

  2. I sense a clear correlation btw this open thread comment, and Loveland developers McWhinney pulling their request that Loveland let them out of a contract to help rebuild an I-25 interchange.

    http://www.coloradoan.com/arti…

    The sad thing is, the sell-outs on city council probably still would have approved it.  

  3. Even if you are not troubled by card check on principle, this should give you pause.  

    http://www.columbusdispatch.co…

    Wages for PAC

    Ohio organizer faked union donor cards

    Wednesday,  April 15, 2009 3:12 AM

    By Dan Gearino

    THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

    An Ohio union organizer has been fired after he was caught forging documents to deduct money from public employees’ wages to pay for political activity, the Service Employees International Union said yesterday.

    . . .

    The organizer, whom Williams declined to identify, had forged about 40 “PAC cards,” which are documents that allow the union to deduct about $14 per month from employee wages to pay for the union’s political activity.

    . . .

    1. So SEIU appropriately fires some guy who was embezzling money . . . what does that have to do with EFCA?

      Let’s illustrate your shitty logic with an analogy:

      Even if you are not troubled by Article I of the Constitution on principle, this should give you pause.

      http://www.politico.com/news/s…


      Chris Shays living a ‘nightmare’

      By JOHN BRESNAHAN | 4/21/09 4:11 AM EDT  

      POLITICO

      …Chris Shays is living what he calls a post-election “nightmare.”

      He’s out of the job he loved and – worse – stuck with at least $200,000 in debt that his campaign says is the result of wrongdoing by a trusted longtime adviser.

      Shays has been forced to hire law firms in Washington and Connecticut to help unravel his campaign accounts, and he owes $100,000 in legal bills to those attorneys, according to his most recent disclosure report filed with the Federal Election Commission. By law, Shays cannot shut down his campaign while it still reports a debt.

      The only difference here is that Chris Shays had terrible oversight and accounting mechanisms built into his campaign, whereas SEIU discovered and dealt with their problem person in a timely fashion.  

  4. Sentinel http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/conte…:

    Rowland answers Udall

    …Commissioner Janet Rowland was taken aback on Monday when the board of commissioners was presented a letter from Democratic Senator Mark Udall. The letter asked the commission to give him a list of its top five stimulus priorities.

    The letter also asked the commission to describe any changes to federal policy that would help the economy. Rowland did not need any more encouragement.

    “The stimulus package itself is my No. 1 concern,” Rowland said.

    As a Republican, Rowland maintains, she is an advocate of less taxation and regulation.

    Her personal letter to Udall will be included with the county’s “official” response…

    Here are Rowland’s five top economic/policy suggestions to Udall:

    1) Oppose cap and trade – Implementation of which will add $3,100 onto every U.S. households energy bill, Rowland wrote.

    2) Implement the fair tax – This will eliminate “the entire office of the Internal Revenue Service” and ensure everyone – including illegal immigrants and tax-avoiding criminals – pays their fair share of tax, Rowland wrote.

    3) Stop the ban on research and development activities on oil shale deposits in Colorado – Oil shale in the region may hold three times the amount of oil buried in the sands of the Middle East, Rowland wrote.

    4) Amend the Clean Water Act and specifically storm water compliance – The legislation forces local residents to expend millions of dollars to purify water to a level greater than found in nature, Rowland wrote.

    5) Support natural gas exploration and production activity on the Naval Oil Shale Reserve (The Roan Plateau) – “If you really want to help the economy of northwest Colorado, please use your position as a Colorado Senator and support natural gas production on the Naval Oil Shale Reserve,” Rowland wrote.

    1. Maybe she’s addressing national issues instead of the Bass Lake road sign crisis and livestock being coerced into marriage in anticipation of running against John Salazar next year.  When is she termed out as county commissioner?

    2. wanting stimulus dollars, nonetheless.  But I guess we could add animal carcasses and fish dung to the water before we return it, if that’s what she wants.  She is just beginning her second term, so more idiocy to come.  

      1. Gee, Janet, let’s bring back an oil shale boom. When the bust from that comes, you’ll be out of public office, or at least it is to be devoutly hoped.

        The oil shale bust made this current downturn seem like a picnic.

  6. I was thinking about this because an an even playing field it doesn’t make sense. But what I think it reflects is that Governor’s have to administor and because of that they are making specific substantive decisions daily. And we see those results daily.

    But our legislators get to do a lot of talking, take a few votes, and then we wait to see how the legislation from those votes plays out. And many times the efficay of legislation does not reflect back on the legislators.

    In other words, Ritter because of his job is held to a tougher standard. But I also think when it comes time to vote people realize that and cut the incumbent some slack.

    1. although I’m skeptical that voters will realize that and cut him slack for it. Color me skeptical, but I given the prolific (and effective) use of non-issues to drive elections (by both sides) it’s hard for me to believe that people are that critically reflective with regard to elections.

      1. In 2004 I talked to a number of nominally Democratic people who didn’t like Bush or his policies, but said they were going to vote for him because it’s a hard job, and they didn’t think they’d do any better at it.

        Incumbency has a lot of advantages aside from the fundraising; one of them is that non-ideological people really don’t hate their representatives in the voting booth as much as they do at the bar after three drinks.

  7. “Today Ritter took final action in his long campaign to destroy the oil and gas industry,” Brophy said.

    “If there was any other industry struggling like the oil and gas industry, the state government would reach out its hand and ask: ‘How can we help?'” Brophy said. “Instead this governor shoves them over the cliff.”

    -from the CO Senate Republicans’ latest “news” release

    1. O&G is leaving Colorado as fast as they can. And I’ve seen the facts that prove it. According to the Baker-Hughes rig counts, last week (while the Governor was finalizing his nefarious plotting) this is what happened:

      Oklahoma lost 11 rigs

      Texas lost 10 rigs

      New Mexico lost 3 rigs

      Alaska lost 2 rigs

      Kansas lost 2 rigs

      Utah lost 1 rig

      Wyoming & Louisiana held steady

      Canada lost 9 rigs (to end at 74 active rigs, 89% down from their 2008 peak of 647 rigs)

      Meanwhile, what happened here?

      Colorado gained 2 rigs.

      See, what did I tell you. O&G in Colorado is being decimated by the new rules.

      Wait … Colorado gained 2 rigs?

      Oh … never mind …

        1. I’m testing out my ability to mimic Brophy-Penry logic:

          The new rules in Colorado are soooo draconian that they are attracting O&G activity? 😉

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