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April 03, 2009 08:32 PM UTC
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He didn’t vote no on Cap and trade. He voted no on shoving it through without debate or amendment.
Come back and talk to me when he actually votes no. Until then, you can hardly call this blocking Obama’s agenda. He voted yes on the budget, what more do you want? I don’t see you writing a diary about Betsy Markey, whose nay vote on the budget could be seen as actually trying to block Obama’s agenda. Do you want to run a primary campaign against her as well? I’m seriously asking.
It’s so much better to actually sell this to people rather than to force it into law. If it has broad bipartisan support then it can’t be used against Democrats in the 2010 and 2012 campaign.
Plus, now that Bennet is raising money at a ridiculous rate, there’s no way in hell a primary campaign is going to happen.
Really, though, Bennet should be thanking you and the other Draft Romanoff people because it was probably through the threat of a primary that he got the major donors to pony up.
There are 58 Democrats in the Senate! Are you telling me we can’t get between one and five RINOs (depending on how many Dems decide not to support it) to cross party lines?
All this posturing and accusing isn’t doing anybody any favors.
This is an affront to DEMOCRACY! And the Prezzzideeent!!! Bennet is AWFUL. Oh, and he’s an elitist-aristocratic-non-Coloradan-noob who must be stopped! 🙂
OK, Wade hasn’t gone that far (but his buddy Sirota has), but you’re right. This isn’t doing anyone any good. Not us, not Romanoff, and not even the Maldivians (is that a word?).
it comes across badly in text. Please refer to my prior statement on the issue.
I’ve interacted enough with Dabee to know when he (or she? I honestly have no idea) is joking or being serious. The goofy capital letters and intentional misspellings are good too.
I figured you’d get the point.
And I’m indeed a “he”…I think. When Skyler was posting regularly, he was convinced I was a woman…
but I was just joking around.
welcome to Pols…
i guess i am tired of waiting.
Shit, Bush could have put up legislation for American Families to sacrifice their first born and he would have gotten EVERY single Republican to vote for it, plus a few dems, and Reid saying ‘we just can’t stop it’
Two years later, we have a landslide victory in the General election, massive house and senate gains, and we still have democrats sitting on the fence?
As for the Republicans, with Specter caving recently, I am not too sure that the dems will be able to get any RINOs to vote with us on meaningful changes on the issues that really do threaten Energy companies or Healthcare companies.
In the opening statement i provided differing opinions on Bennet’s decision without saying which was right or wrong – the point being is that we are missing the bigger issue.
Seriously, why should we care about some teeny tiny little country? In this economy my view is we need to say to the rest of the world that we can’t keep propping you up, we must start focusing on ourselves we can get to the poor little Africans and Islanders later. But I still must contest that right now we cannot afford to focus on anything but ourselves not to be selfish but I think it’s time someone did. On top of all that we still don’t know anything concerning climate change. If it did occur why did temperatures dip in the 60s and 70s?
Choosing to go entirely in a new energy direction and ending our use of fossil fuel based energy is not ‘propping up other countries.’
In fact, going towards a green revolution is the one way we can jump start our economy. The only new jobs being created recently in Colorado were the new Vestas Wind Mill plants.
Governor Ritter is leading the nation on Green energy as a governor, but it is still sad to see him sign off on a letter supporting ‘clean coal’ whatever the hell that is.
As for the “poor little Africans and Islanders”
You’re right, we can ignore them, for now. But, since they are the first victims of Climate Change (note, that is not just ‘warming’) but you can’t ignore that 75% of the Earth’s population is within 100 miles of the ocean.
Will you feel so glib when Manhattan, Boston, Miami, and San Diego (not to mention many other cities)
are threatened with the same deluge?
Yes indeed, why should we care about people who look and speak differently than us?
Because … oh you’re right, for the last 30 years we’ve been thinking only about others and haven’t given a thought to our own needs.
While it may be true that you, sierrafan, know nothing about climate change, it is patently untrue that we don’t know anything about it.
You might start by (re)reading Rasool & Schneider. 1971. Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate. Surely you remember this paper. It gets referred to frequently among “some” circles. However, “some” conveniently forget that Rasool & Schneider’s predictions of cooling were predicated on ever increasing release of particulate pollution into the atmosphere. They also predicted that if particulates decreased then CO2 effects would dominate, leading to warming. Enter the Clean Air Act and … voila!
Warming is not something that did happen, it’s something that is happening.
As for what happened during the 60s and 70s? You’ve got it wrong, the temperatures in the 60s and 70s were pretty much constant with that observed during the 50s. Well, except for 10 or so years which were noticeably warmer! But hey, if you need to cherry-pick short time frames in order to make a point, you’ve already lost. But welcome to ColoradoPols anyway.
Oh dear, did I miss the “dripping sarcasm” tags on your post? If so, I apologize. 😉
I’ll get to all of the 70s temperature dip in another post but in the mean time understand that I don’t like sarcasm in text for christ’s sake. Anyways in the mean time it’s interesting that all of you don’t care even one bit about debating the issue.
“Beginning late in the 18th century, human activities associated with the Industrial Revolution have also changed the composition of the atmosphere and therefore very likely are influencing the Earth’s climate.”
This is from the Obama’s EPA website it doesn’t say it’s 100% or 99% it just says very likely. Even Obama says it’s possible that it may not be true or at least his admin does.
Also just out of curiosity are you willing to become unemployed (as coal workers would have to be) in order to prevent the demise of these people?
Amazing how fast you all criticize me even remotely thinking lets deal with our issues first. Do either of you care that we are in a economic crisis. If we don’t deal with our own issues first we won’t be able to afford to help them later. Also either way I don’t care about a people that are not Americans for now. It has nothing to do with the fact they are different. Hell, I’m probably different looking than most who blog here. My issue is with our country restoring its prosperity before it can start to solve other’s problems
Also yes this country has spent way, WAY too much money on pointless foreign aide programs that do not work. For instance USAID has celebrated the fact that they have been in Ghana for 50 years. That is pathetic. Why are we celebrating that we haven’t been able to solve their crippling poverty for half a century. Our best intentions overseas for the last 30-50 years have caused many problems in developing countries. The reason is our influence is actually taking them off of their natural course toward development.
and truly, everything you write is so over the top that it comes across as sarcasm. Truly.
When climate scientists say something is “very highly likely” they mean with 95% confidence. No scientist would claim to have 100% confidence in a projection for years into the future.
So, yes, the climate scientists who are working on understanding this issue have worked carefully to quantify their uncertainty. They recognize that there is a significant probability that they are underestimating the potential effects.
If you need 100% certainty before you decide on a plan of action, you must be good at stasis.
There are lots of horse buggy manufacturers out of work. Are you crying for them? There are lots of gas lamp lighters out of work too. Where are your crocodile tears? Hell, we’re witnessing the loss of many jobs in printing presses right now. Shouldn’t we solve these problems now?
You want to talk about an economic crisis but you seem to think it is ok to kill people over it because we have to think about ourselves. If you want to be taken seriously you need to stop using so much sarcasm in your writing. It’s really hard to tell when you are being serious.
Who said we should kill people? And yes coal is old but if the green tech revolution is coming it will come from the market. Beyond that the nice thing about the market is as jobs are being closed down like newspapers they are replaced with other jobs but our grid the way it functions can’t work without coal. That’s the fact. What else has the functionality of coal? Nuclear? Then we need to expand uranium mining. Solar? Extremely expensive and inefficient. Natural Gas is running out with oil. So the solution to Global warming is to shut down the grid?
Also how are we going to afford any of this if our economy keeps going down the tubes? That’s why we should move these guys off of the island to other countries as refugees while we figure out a solution to global warming we need to focus on our economy so we can pay for it once we get that silver bullet. Until then sorry life’s not fair and it sucks.
Also ardy39 do you recycle, buy local organic for all products, or use only mass transit. Because if you can your the only one who can afford to, the rest of us are too poor, and that’s my point until we fix the economy we can’t afford a solution to global warming. Now, that’s if and only if it actually exists.
Who said we should kill people? Oh, I don’t know, maybe it was this guy:
Fossil fuels and nuclear appear to be inexpensive because they all have long histories of being heavily subsidized. So many costs have been externalized onto the rest of us and on to many people throughout the world who have not had the opportunity to partake in the benefits.
So, if you don’t want your posts to be interpreted as sarcasm, you need to avoid framing everything as starkly false dichotomies.
Thirty years ago cell phones and computers and solar electricity were “too expensive.” As a nation, we put our collective efforts into the first two. Now everyone can carry a computer and cell phone in the same pocket. Bummer that we ignored solar electricity.
Our “economy” may be in a down turn, but we are still incredibly wealthy compared to over 90% of the world. Even you, if you make more than a few dollars a day, are incredibly wealthy. If we don’t help others who are clearly being threatened by our past and current actions, then whose responsibility is it?
Sure, life is not fair. But we have the ability to choose how we impact others. Being selfish/nationalistic/xenophobic is a choice.
To care about my country first. Really I never knew coal was so cheap because it was heavily subsidized
It is possible for some of us to do more than one thing at the same time.
I am passionate about America. But I also recognize we have responsibilities to others. It is OUR life style that has encouraged extracting natural resources from other countries, with little regard for the economic, social and environmental costs to others. Why? So we can have “cheap” toys?
And now that we don’t have enough money to play with all the toys we want, you say it is their problem to deal with the consequences. This is really disturbing and certainly nothing for you to be proud of.
BTW, coal has a long history of being subsidized. The fact that they have long been allowed to externalize many costs onto society should be unacceptable to everyone.
Poor people use mass transit. Rich people have cars.
Not much of a thinker, are you?
light rail is incredibly expensive for the average person to take to work. Thus why I car pool and use my car. With ethanol at 1.60 a gallon it’s far to cheap of an alternative to pass up.
And i didn’t say we should murder the people of Kiribati. It’s up to them to find a new home. If they choose to stay there to die it’s not my problem. It’s like those who stayed near Mt. Saint Helen’s before it erupted despite the warnings. Your feeble attempts to get me to care are not working.
until we citizens of the industrialized nations of the world demand accountability for the way our planet is treated, we are responsible for what happens to the people left nationless due to our misuse of God’s Green Earth.
You may be confusing me with someone who’s worried about your opinions.
I just don’t want you to say incredibly stupid shit unchallenged. Your car cost money, as does insurance, gas, and parking. Obviously you don’t think about those costs when comparing to public transportation. Actual poor people do.
If you want to be a callous prick, be a callous prick. Not my problem. Just stop being dumb.
And there were a number of ice ages that came and went before the industrial revolution, demonstrating that the earth experiences significant temperature changes without emmissions from factories and cars.
that the trend is a warming of over 0.7deg C per century.
This is incredible. But good thing we are in a “cooling” trend. Otherwise we’d be, what, warming at 1.5deg C?
Your argument is lame, Robert Jordan. It is akin to an argument based on the claim that people have been dying from cholera for centuries. Therefore it is not possible for them to die from a bullet wound.
Twas, that was freaking perfect.
Wade, it doesn’t matter what you’re posting about, it’s all the same tone (except when you’re challenging me and a female poster to a fight – that’s when you’re really scary).
Next week it will be a different cause or a different evil, but it will be no doubt shrieked at all of “us” that need to rally behind your righteousness.
Bring it on Wade. Bring it on. Me and Laughing Boy against you and one of your S2 buddies. Match up of the century.
“Middle of the road…..I just met a girl named middle of the road…..”
This is match made in heaven for me. 🙂
Is this an April Folls Joke?
This is straight from the pages of “STATE OF FEAR” by Micheal Crichton.
Man Made Global warming is an un proven theory.
http://www.warmingscaretactics…
which fail miserably to address why islanders are asking for refuge before their land is completely submerged.
The fact is, the water is rising.
if you don’t believe that it is climate change, then call it ‘sea level fluctuation’ if that makes you feel better.
the fact is that there is increasingly less and less ice at the polar caps.
most people would agree that ice melts when temperature rises…
but if you consider that ‘junk science’
then you can defend that position on your own.
When the warmest year in the US was recorded is not an argument for or against whether a global phenomenon is taking place.
who tried to “defeat” quantum physics because he didn’t believe in it. Since Einstein didn’t have any facts on his side, just like you don’t on this issue, he was unable.