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  by: Colorado Pols July 13, 2016 at 6:52 AM MDT

“A gentleman would be ashamed should his deeds not match his words.”

–Confucius

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  1. mamajama55 says:
    July 13, 2016 at 10:26 AM MDT

    "All Wives Matter" –  new Trump / Gingrich ticket bumper sticker.

    h/t to teacherken at kos

  2. Zappatero says:
    July 13, 2016 at 10:42 AM MDT

    The Koch Brothers continue to pollute the political process as they've polluted the environment for so many years. Brother Charles – a sociopath conservative – disingenuously compares Trump and Hillary to "cancer or a heart attack":

    Remember when Charles Koch raised eyebrows (and conspiracy theories) when he said "it's possible" he would support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump? Yeah. No. In aFortune interview (via TPM) he clarified that he didn’t really mean it.

    Major GOP donor Charles Koch is dead set on not choosing between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the presidential election.

    "But if I had to vote for cancer or heart attack, why would I vote for either?" Koch told Fortune in an interview Monday.

    Koch said that "we’re not supporting" the "two people" he sees running for President at this moment. Pressed again to make a choice, he asked, "Why do I have to?"

    "Are you going to put a gun to my head?" Koch said.

    Nonetheless, Koch is sure that the racist, xenophobic, narcissistic, would-be tyrant Trump is "a fine fellow underneath." What he doesn't like is the guy's trade policy. Really. 

    Do both sides do this? 

    Nope.

  3. Duke Cox says:
    July 13, 2016 at 11:43 AM MDT

    So…while I am enjoying my lunch, I thought I would take the opportunity to do a little scolding and pick a bone with the Pueblo Chieftain. I will pick that bone in a minute…

    I tried to make a comment a couple of weeks ago, at that website, to some ignorant crap from some local trolls who posted in response to a story about Gail Schwartz receiving an endorsement from the Conservation Colorado folks. They were incorrectly asserting that Gail (whose "all of the above" energy policy isn't my favorite) would cost the energy sector lots of jobs. Poppycock.The future is costing the fossil fuel energy its dominance of the energy market.

    The external costs of continuing to poison our world in order to move us, power us, and keep us comfortable are no longer tolerable. I am quite sure Gail understands this dynamic as well as anyone, but she is committed to the AOTA policy because, first and foremost, Gail is committed to serving her constituents…all of them.

    I have heard her say it repeatedly. Gail does not just care about the people who vote for her. This commitment is in sharp contrast to her incumbent opponent whose loyalties seem to lie wholly in the corporate interests of a number of companies whose governing structures do not lie within the 3rd CD. Gail will fight for our local people after they have become no longer useful to the extractive industries who make their fortunes on Colorados' minerals..

    and now to my beef with the Chieftain…

    The Pueblo Chieftain uses a commenting system called Disqus.

    Yeesh…WTF, Chieftain? After I was sent to their (Disqus) website where I was encouraged to "participate" in a bunch of marketing nonsense. I "verified my e-mail address" about 8 times and when I went back to see my rebuttal ( which bore a resemblance to the above) the story was gone…what gives, ya'll?

     

    • Voyageur says:
      July 13, 2016 at 3:33 PM MDT

      Give me your best guess, Duke.   Does Gail have a real shot?  I'm thinking of bypassing DCCC and sending her $100 directly.   I liked her a lot in the lege.

      • gertie97 says:
        July 13, 2016 at 3:58 PM MDT

        She has a real shot, V. Remember that she unseated highly-regarded GOP veteran Lew Entz in her first run for the state Senate. She outworked him, small town by small town, parade by parade, service club by service club. She's a terrific speaker and wonderful listener and can respond to anyone without resorting to talking points. Tipton knows no other language and isn't known for a work ethic.

        Your money would be well spent.

        • Duke Cox says:
          July 13, 2016 at 4:30 PM MDT

          I completely agree with Gertie.I think Gail has an even better shot than Buffie would have had. I have known Gail a long time and, though I am quite a bit to the left of Gail, I fully support her. Her integrity is beyond question. And, as Gertie says, she earns it…she just works really hard. It has always before paid off for her.

    • mamajama55 says:
      July 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM MDT

      I use Disqus – it is irritating because one has to sign in at several stages to comment. It is nice because it archives comments from several sources. If for some reason, I want to see something snarky I wrote about something now irrelevant several months ago.

      I hope everyone's right about Gail Schwartz' chances. If she is even slightly less bought off by the corporate and energy sectors than Tipton, it's a change worth making. She has to be better on social policy (immigration, choice, public education, poverty) than Tipton – because a friendly shelter dog would be better than Scott Tipton on social policy.

  4. davebarnes says:
    July 13, 2016 at 1:25 PM MDT

    1. The Big Line needs to be updated.

    2. Jared is doomed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KN2W4hjRbg

  5. Zappatero says:
    July 13, 2016 at 1:35 PM MDT

    Bipartisanship in the Age of Tea:

    Liberals are supposed to make sure they use the right fork when they sit down to dinner with barbarians.

  6. Conserv. Head Banger says:
    July 13, 2016 at 3:37 PM MDT

    Need to mention a bit of fun for a change. Wondering if anyone else caught the PBS show this past weekend for the 50th anniversary of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. It was filmed live last October at the famous Ryman Auditorium in Nashville (for the uneducated, Ryman is the original home of the Grand Old Opry).

    Lots of special guests including original band member Jackson Browne; John Prine; Jerry Jeff Walker; Rodney Crowell; Allison Kraus; Vince Gill; and former band member Jimmie Ibbottson. Check it out if it comes around again. As usual, the best shows like this are part of PBS' continuous fundraising. But they did have original band members Jeff Hanna and Jimmie Fadden on as guests for that. Interesting to hear their perspectives about this classic and long lived country-rock-folk band.

  7. BlueCat says:
    July 13, 2016 at 4:24 PM MDT

    copying image didn’t work

  9. Diogenesdemar says:
    July 13, 2016 at 8:08 PM MDT

    Speaking of PBS, let's see that history also records . . .

    Mr. McCullough, raised in a Republican home and now aligned with no party, said the prospect of a Trump presidency so distressed him that he felt he could not remain publicly detached. “When you think of how far we have come, and at what cost, and with what faith, to just turn it all over to this monstrous clown with a monstrous ego, with no experience, never served his country in any way — it’s just crazy,” he said. “We can’t stand by and let it happen. The Republican Party shouldn’t stand by and let it happen.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/nyregion/donald-trump-david-mccullough-ken-burns.html

    . . . the intellectually and morally bankrupt degenerate political party that is trying to cynically foist this clown upon America!!

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