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August 13, 2015 06:38 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character.”

–Albert Einstein

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31 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

      1. Maybe if the mothers of our Colorado Watermelon Cabal had spent a little more time with junior when they were young we could be talking about 'solutions' as opposed to arming every nitwit in the hinder woods with automatic weapons?

    1. RMGO: CEW is unfairly pointing out illegal things done by conservative groups!

      Judge: Are these allegations unfounded?

      RMGO: Well, no. They're all true but-

      Judge: GTFO! NEXT! 

  1. Irony: meet Carly's BFF

    Give Bibi the Nobel Peace Prize

    Make no mistake, Washington and Tehran were the driving forces behind the Iran deal. If anything, Netanyahu miscalculated just how far Obama would go in making this deal. But there’s little doubt that the prime minister’s relentless focus on the nuclear issue set the stage for an American president to do something about it and provided him with additional tools to do it. Perhaps it would be unrealistic for any Israeli prime minister to celebrate this deal, let alone take credit for helping shape it. The agreement is just too problematic, from where the Israeli government sits. And this prime minister truly believes that. Indeed, of all the possible outcomes to the Iranian nuclear story, Netanyahu could not have envisioned a worse one: an agreement he both loathes and, truth be told, unwittingly enabled.

    1. It continues to amaze me that  almost no one, including in this article, ever mentions the fact that Israel is a nuclear power already and has been for about half a century and everyone knows it. That everyone is supposed to both officially not know it and know it at the same time because it would hardly be a useful deterrent if Israel's enemies didn't know about it. It's a "secret" whose entire value consists of it being no secret. It's stunning how this is just ignored as if it isn't relevant to the situation when what on earth could possibly be more relevant?  Even when discussing the "existential threat" Iran represents to Israel, no one mentions Israel's nukes. Isn't it long past time to drop the Kabuki? 

        1. Well that's a step in the right direction. You could joke about it with your bus driver in Israel back when I was 20. Some American tourist would bring it up. Your driver would say "Who told you that!" mock sternly. Then he and everyone else would crack up. I’m now now just a few years shy of full social security benefits. About time.

    1. I love how every "conservative" group that claims to be all about local control is part of some national chain of groups that all do the same thing nationwide.

    1. I know a lot of this is tongue in cheek, but the sky hasn't fallen in Durango. 3 million gallons amounts to less than 15 minutes of flow of the Animas River (about 500 cu. ft. per sec.). It's a single transient event. If there's any contaminated sediment, it's going to blow through in the first high water event. Year after year, this stuff has been leaking into the river, creating a chronic problem that is probably much more dangerous. Maybe now, people will treat it seriously. 

      And for those who care, the Snake River, passing through Keystone, probably carries more heavy metals than the Animas through Durango. It goes straight into Denver’s Water supply.

      But this is no Summitville.

      1. From an interesting (and needlessly alarmist) article:

        The agency announced Wednesday that the ponds were effectively reducing acidity and dissolved metals, so while the runoff has returned to the pre-spill volume of about 213 gallons per minute, it is now cleaner than it was before the spill. [my emphasis]

        So let's do the math:

        3,000,000 gal / 213 gal/min = 14,000 min = 10 days.

        That's right, this spill amounted to 10 days worth of runoff from the mine. That's all. At least now it's getting treated.

        1. This all just means that the real problem is the steady pollution, not just the occasional dramatic event. It doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

          1. The EPA's been studying health effects  and cleaning up  mine tailings leaking into groundwater for five years, in and around the Superfund site up by Central City and Clear Creek.

            Decades ago, midwives found a very high rate of fused skull bones in infants born in that area, and the Idaho Springs area. I don't know if anyone ever followed up on it.

             

    2. Our science-challenged  Governor DoLittle has devolved into a bad joke …

      … here's a bowl of lead-paint chips, clown.  Eat hearty!

      If he's alive in 24 hours, must be completely safe, right?

      1. It really did surprise me that after the Frack cocktail fiasco, a particular fluid that was not in fact being used in fracking at the time, he thought this was a good idea and apparently had no clue it would be like painting a giant kick me sign on his back. He's the last person on earth anyone takes seriously in the look at what I'm drinking now dept. 

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