Reporter puts representative’s eight-hour gun delay in proper context

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Rep. Patrick Neville (R).

Rep. Patrick Neville (R).

The Colorado Statesman’s Marianne Goodland offered up a good tidbit of reporting in an article published yesterday, in which she aired out State Rep. Patrick Neville’s complaint that his gun purchases were twice denied because he failed a background check.

But Goodland put the problem in context by also reporting that Neville’s denial, due to a clerical error, was resolved in fewer than eight hours.

Goodland also reported the testimony of Ron Sloan, Director of the Colorado Bureau of Investigation:

Sloan cited statistics showing that almost 6,000 sales and transfers were halted because the buyer failed the background check. Some of the checks failed, Sloan said, because the buyers had convictions for crimes such as homicide, kidnapping, sexual assault, burglary and drug offenses.

So, in a post last week, I was wrong to write that no gun was denied to anyone who was legally entitled to one. It appears, in Neville’s case, an eight-hour delay occurred, due to a clerical error.

Isolated mistakes like Neville’s will inevitably happen, but is it worth it to keep thousands of real criminals from buying guns? That’s the question that flows from the facts reported by the Statesman. Are we willing to tolerate Neville’s rare inconvenience to keep guns out of the hands of murderers?

16 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Andrew Carnegie says:


    Real criminals can buy guns without background checks.  There is a black market.

    • Duke Cox says:

      …and getting caught with one is a crime. Which will result in a serious blip in your criminal career. It's all about politics to you isn't it, PissAnt?

      I used to sell guns…in a sporting goods store…no gun should be sold in a store or a show, to anyone, with out a background check…I have purchased two firearms…I would have no problem submitting to a background check to buy either…um, cause I'm not afraid of my background.

    • BlueCat says:

      Mentally ill people with no underworld connections can't easily buy guns on the black market, though.  Besides. Don't you people always tell us at election time that it's all about jobs and the economy. Once you get elected that all goes to the bottom of your priority list and it's all about giving the highest priority to sparing people the occasional wait for a firearms purchase, restricting choice, allowing businesses to refuse to serve LGBT people and the like.  Obviously all of these issues are far more important to you than anything to do with jobs or the economy and especially with doing anything to help regrow a healthy, prosperous middle class. Is somebody having to wait a few extra hours for a gun due to a clerical error really the most important thing your people can think of that desperately needs fixing?

  2. FrankUnderwood says:

    So Mini Timmy doesn't already have a Glock under his bed to protect himself until the paperwork on his latest background check clears? I can't imagine that this is the first and only gun he's ever tried to buy.

    • Awen says:

      Rep. Neville is an Army veteran. Lots of experience prior to this with weapons.

      • Wong21fr says:

        And with clerical errors that result in delays in properly processing paperwork.  He also should be aware of the level of training that is neccesary to entrust a soldier with a weapon, but prefers to arm the populace willy-nilly with concealed weapons without even the low-level of training that is neccesary today.

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      No doubt MiniTimmy has a small arsenal under his bed — the monsters that live under there are vicious, don't you know. 

      But, you're missing the bigger picture here, it's much more important that already armed-to-the-teeth MiniTimmy be able to get yet another newer, shinier bang-bang on a moment's notice than it is to have any system that makes it even slightly more difficult to sell or transfer other bang-bangs to any anybody actually covicted of "crimes such as homicide, kidnapping, sexual assault, burglary, and drug offenses."

      Personally I think that some ballsy and thinking Democratic legislator should counter this year's nutter offensive with their own bills requiring something like a 48-hour waiting period on all commercial firearms sales, and a second bill requiring a safety certification class.  Let's have a real debate on firearms safety issues . . . 

      . . . let the mewling and the howling begin . . .

      (These Neville mongoloids and their Fudley sponsor are going to demonize rational, thinking folks anyway, F 'em!  I've lost all tolerance for these idiots and their many idiotic cultist religions, their science denying, and their bullying bluster. Again I say, F 'em!)

      • FrankUnderwood says:

        I like your attitude; the best defense is a strong offense!  I wonder if any of their bill titles are broad enough to allow for a strike-below amendment and a piece of legislation which is 180 degrees different…….  🙂

  3. davebarnes says:

    We need to abolish background checks. For the children!

  4. Conserv. Head Banger says:

    Personally I prefer the Neville Brothers from New Orleans rather the Neville family from Colorado. That's how you "tell it like it is."

    Regards,   C.H.B.

  5. notaskinnycook says:

    +!00, CHB. Me, too!

  6. Canines says:

    If Obama had suddenly declared himself a monarch and sought to put all Republicans into prisons, those eight hours might have made all the difference between tyranny and freedom. Think about it.

  7. Time to take a not-really-contrary position. Just as we shouldn't be convicting innocent people, or our law enforcement harassing or killing innocent civilians, we also shouldn't be denying or unnecessarily delaying people who are law-abiding from exercising their Constitutional rights – to guns or anything else.

    There are a lot of "clerical errors" in our society that harm peoples' rights, privileges, and dignity. I'd support any effort to reduce clerical errors in the system so that it might be more accurate and responsive.

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