Wednesday Open Thread

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–Zhuang Zhou

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  1. FrankUnderwood says:

    N.Y. Times is reporting that Willard Mittens Romney's noises about a possible third try in '16 is going over in the GOP with mixed reviews. Amongst other problems cited was Romney's inability to connect with voters. Moody, AC… to comment?

    • taterheaptom says:

      This year it's all about helping the poor folk.  He's got plans to go eat at picnics with Americans and even eat some of their foodstuffs. 

    • Andrew Carnegie says:


      I think it is a mixed bag.  I would prefer a new face.

      • taterheaptom says:

        Oh oh, I got one!

        Is that because your current one is squashed from sitting on it all day?  

      • FrankUnderwood says:

        Assuming Romney runs, the reports are that he will try to run to the right of Jeb Bush.  I'd look forward to seeing that tried by the former Governor of Massachusetts who used to be pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control, and (my personal favorite) the man who introduced Obamacare to Massachusetts.  Romney is also saying that Jeb's business dealings will make him a vulnerable candidate!  (WTF)

        If I were a Republican, I too would be hoping for someone new.  But if GOP tradition continues for the last half century, you guys will nominate whoever's turn it is next (meaning someone who ran last time or the time before that).

        • MichaelBowman says:

          Now that Mitt has once again opened the door, here's a funny video to remind us why he's 0-2. (if you're offended by guys in Speedo's this one isn't for you). 

        • Andrew Carnegie says:

          Frank, I would put Bush up there with Romney of folks I would not be excited about.  The last choice the country needs is a regurgitated Bush vs. a regurgitated Clinton.  That would be depressing.

          • ajb says:

            Yeah, but this time we'd be getting the smart Bush and the smart Clinton.

          • BlueCat says:

            BTW AC.  Remember how much you used to be in love with RCP?  Even with all the flack (well deserved  IMHO) over the US being a no show (a mere ambassador doesn't cut it and Eric Holder was already right their but didn't attend, for God's sake) at the historic the Paris rally, Obama's RCP average approval continues it's modest but study rise. Today's was the best yet.







            RCP Average

            1/3 – 1/13




            • BlueCat says:

              oops. But you get the picture. During the election it was rarely much above 41.  And it's not bouncing around much, either. So, while the average is hardly stellar, it certainly does not show public reaction against anything he's done since his executive action on immigration.

              • Andrew Carnegie says:

                BC, I think in part it is a return to normal.  He no longer has both sides of the aisle throwing things at him 24X7 in the media.  It may also be the holiday spirit.  45% approval, 50% disapproval is still not very good.

                • BlueCat says:

                  If by normal you mean more in alignment with policies that that get majority approval in polls then, yes. Unfortunately most people have no idea that the policies they approve of in polls are those Obama and Dems are for and Rs are against. Lucky for you guys Dems, staring with Obama are so afraid of strong messaging.

                  And BTW once again I do agree with you at least in part. I do think Obama's previous 15 minutes as a Senator is a contributing factor to why he hasn't been very good at working with his own party in congress, especially initially when they were in control, to push his agenda. He started out by offering your side 90% of what they wanted as an initial bargaining position on health care reform in the first place and, until after this last election, the last of his presidency, he's pretty much stuck with dissing his own and senselessly beating his head against the wall in the name of let's hold hands and sing bipartisanship, despite constant and consistent rejection by the party that pledged to destroy him before his first inauguration. A more experienced pol would have known better.

            • BlueCat says:

              One more thing. If you were expecting an RCP average bounce in congressional approval now that Rs have both houses? It's a whopping 14 average approval rate. So maybe some basic assumptions need to be reexamined by both parties. Including assumptions as basic as the coronation of yet another Bush on your side and another Clinton on ours.

  2. Zappatero says:

    Whackjob Wayne Williams picking up right where Scott Gessler left off on voter ID:

    Wayne Williams (R) was sworn in this week as Colorado’s Secretary of State, and has already begun pushing for laws to make voters show photo identification before they can cast a ballot. “I think most Coloradans are honest and law-abiding and follow the rules, but I think it’s important to have the processes in place to protect the election system so that people have confidence in it,” Williams told Colorado Public Radio in an interview over the weekend.

    Studies show such a law targeting same-day registration would disproportionately impact voters who are younger, lower income, non-white, and newly naturalized.

    Williams’ campaign centered on his reputation as a “champion of access and transparency in government” and his promise to “ensure voter access to the polls” — though he did express support for voter ID laws during his run for office. He also often touted his record of making voting more convenient as a county clerk: “We have worked with all parties and groups to ensure that our polling locations are located in easy to reach locations and we’ve exceeded legal requirements by opening more locations and opening them for longer hours. As a result of these efforts, more citizens have voted than ever before in my county.”

    After winning the race, he flipped on this point as welltelling Colorado Public Radio that too many polling locations were open for too many hours in this past election. “That’s not really a very cost-effective way and there certainly wasn’t a demand for it,” he said, adding that he hopes to give counties “flexibility at the local level” to decide when and where polling locations should be available.

    Still, Williams plans to carry on Gessler’s crusade, saying that while he can’t point to any evidence that fraud exists in the state, “Making sure that process is secure is the top priority.”

    Let's get some guys on our side to call out Williams' lies and to make sure his top priority is that as many eligible Coloradans as there are can vote.

    Democracy is worth the cost of a polling station being open…..and most are staffed by volunteers, so his cost concern is rather feeble. 

    • mamajama55 says:

      So if Williams manages to get Senators to sponsor a voter ID requirement, it gets past the House and the Governor signs it (unlikely in the extreme), I can see one positive development:

      Jon Caldara would only be able to vote with the address shown on his driver's license. I don't know that preventing Caldara from committing election fraud would be worth disenfranchising thousands of voters, but it's a nice dream. 

  3. Zappatero says:

    Jared Polis votes for House bill that removes consumer protections of Dodd-Frank. Did he have to? No. 


    • BlueCat says:

      Not surprised. Except for things like fracking in his back yard and social issues that affect gay people like himself, he's always been our most pro-corporate, rightie Dem Rep.

  4. MichaelBowman says:

    Some great news out of the Capitol Hill today: the two Democratic Senators from Oregon, Wyden and Merkley, have teamed up with the two Republican Senators from Kentucky, McConnell and Paul, to introduce Senate Bill 134, the "Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2015". 

    “The U.S. ban on hemp farming is an outrageous restriction on free enterprise and does nothing but hurt economic growth and job creation,” Sen. Wyden said. “Our bipartisan, common-sense bill is pro-environment, pro-business, and pro-farmer. Congress must act to empower farmers and boost economic activity across the country.  As I’ve always said, if you can buy it in Oregon, you should be able to grow it in Oregon.”

  5. DawnPatrol says:

    Jeebus wuvs you. If you're white. And straight. And a Republican.

    All others need not apply.

    Gimme summa that Old Time GOP Bigotry!


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