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October 22, 2014 06:22 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."

–Edith Sitwell

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76 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

      1. But it's not the stupidest thing I've seen today, early as it is. Chuck Plunkett endorsed Stapleton. I guess it makes sense. They both hate teachers and unions and think pensions are welfare, so there you go. 

        1. Plunkett is political news editor. He's responsible for lousy articles but is not editorial page editor (Carroll is) and is not on the editorial board.

          1. After reading that endorsement, it looked to me like they decided since they don't like PERA, and Stapleton doesn't either, the Editorial Board spent 10 minutes to dash off the endorsement and apply a fresh coat of whitewash over Stapleton's record.

            The Post doesn't seem to care anymore how pathetic their endorsements sound.

      2. Particularly in his role as Chair of RGA.  Governor, you're tired of hearing about it?  Really?  Perhaps he considered the brave, unanimous stand by House Republicans this session, including Gardner, (paired with a filibuster by the Republicans in the Senate) a "settled matter" issue?

        In other relevant news, Washington state, an economy with the highest minimum wage in the US, is adding jobs at an unprecedented rate

      3. Speaking of stupid…that should be "stupidest".

        I would suppose that if "stupidist" were a word, it would be a noun that is a synonym for "Andrew Carnegie- prosti-troll " (I'm trying out a new word I just created..I wonder if it should be hyphenated.)

    1. Then…Why don't you just tell us the story?…oh, because you wish there were one …but there really isn't….let's all not hold our breath for Moderanus' "big story"….

      1. Seriously. Why the cock tease, Moddy? Get back to us when you have something and I imagine everyone here will engage in a lively discussion about doctored videos. 

    2. The poster boy for arrested development?  Yet another person declared "Ebola free" today – I guess we need a new shiny object for the RWNJ media.  Here's an observation: when you have to use all caps to make your point, no one takes you seriously.

      Make the interweb your friend, dumbass.  His antics aren't that hard to find...

      1. Michael, Good news about no more Ebola cases today

        Are we still granting tourist visas in Liberia and relying on the truthfulness of those seeking to come to the US to control the spread of the disease?

        Relying on people to tell the truth, when their life depends on it, does not seem like the safest approach to me.

         

        1. Do you miss the irony of your last sentence?

          BTW, watching your hero George Will meltdown yesterday as he tried to convince us he was a doctor of sorts (ala Todd Akin) – and 'splain to us that we all need to be very afraid of Ebola spreading from a simple sneeze was the comedic high point of my day.

        2. This is where we have to be smart not paranoid. People who are banned from traveling from these countries will get here by another route. If we don't shut down these flights it is easier to monitor and control the spread of Ebola. It is safer for Americans. This doesn't bring voters to the polls though.

          1. Exactly.  There are very few flights from this country to those countries.  We would need to shut down flights through Brussels (which is where most flight to and from west Africa go through).  And of course, if Brussels flies to London, or Paris, or pretty anywhere, we've got to shut down those flights too.  See the problem?

        1. I should know better than to engage you, but it prevents a ballot from being counted because the clerk and county recorders who actually count the ballots compare the signature on the ballot with the signature on file BEFORE the ballot is counted. If the signatures do not match, the ballot is referred to the local DA as suspected fraud. There are many checks and balances in this process that obviously O'Keefe (and possibly Gessler) know nothing about.

      1. Because, like all Republicans, Gessler is terrified of mail-in ballots, online voting, anything that opens up voting to people who aren't old, white, retired bigots.

      1. Is this your "BREAKING NEWS…"?  You've  blown your wad on this?

        1) he found 'no evidence', in fact, he 'found' exactly the opposite. Idiot comments aren't 'evidence',  2) you can't 'vote online', 3) Meredith Hicks heads a professional canvassing organization and is not part of the Udall campaign.  This makes for a scrumptious, red-meat feast on National Review – for actual adults, it's laughable. 

        Try again…

    3. Oooooh, a fresh steamin' pile of GOPer horseshit . . . 

      . . . but  besides you and Boopray, who's no doubt excited for an excuse to whip out his long-handled pitchfork, ya' think anyone else cares?

       

  1. Can Mark Udall thread the needle between those silly, common sense Democrats he doesn't want to associate with, the Sociopathic Tea Party Republicans, and the Socialist Radical Elizabeth Warren?

  2. Dem voter fraud:

    When he raised the issue of filling out some of the unused ballots that are mailed to every household in the state this month, he was told by Meredith Hicks, the director of Work for Progress, a liberal group funded by Democratic Super PACS.: “That is not even like lying or something, if someone throws out a ballot, like if you want to fill it out you should do it.” She then brazenly offered O’Keefe, disguised as a middle-aged college instructor, a job with her group.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390893/james-okeefe-strikes-again-john-fund

  3. Returned Ballot Update:

    With 332,050 returned ballots (18%),  the percentages are:

    Republican  43.9%

    Democrat     31.7%

    Unaffiliated    24.3%

    R + 12

      1. It wouldn't be the first time, nor the second, that they have done so.

        Because we have no actual impersonation voter fraud, Republicans are always diggin' through trash, fishing for discarded ballots, trying to manufacture some fraud for the cameras.

        I predict that James O'Keefe will be unsuccessful in his malicious attempt to frame campaign staff with doctored videos. Further, I predict that he will himself be sued, and instead of merely being sentenced to probation and fines, will have to actually serve time for libel and slander.

        No prison rape jokes, please. O'Keefe is mean as a snake, and a lying scumbag, and he will get what he deserves in the long run.

         

    1. So when you eliminate the noise of some counties report earlier than others, what does it look like?

      Arapahoe County

      Republican     44%

      Dems              32%

      Unaffiliated     23%

      Jefferson County

      Republican     41%

      Dems              29%

      Unaffiliated      26%

      1. From 2012 wingnut.

         

        "Data released today from the Secretary of State's office shows that in Colorado's early voting period, more Republicans have cast ballots than Democrats. The GOP says there's no getting around the numbers — the facts show they will take Colorado."

         

        This is about the 2012 presidential race, you know the one where republicans were confident that Romney would win Colorado, but ended up losing by 5 points to Obama.. Gardner is finished. 😉

  4. New poll has Gardner and both ways Bob leading Udall and Hickenlooper. Ground game of the dems will prevail like it did in 2008, 2010, and 2012. No poll beats a superior ground game. Gardner and Beauprez will lose and the republicans in Colorado will continue their trend of losing statewide races in Colorado. ;0

    1. It's not. We gave Ken Buck a shellacking in 2010 when all the polls said he would win. We got latinos on our side and lots of women voters. it's over for Gardner. He just doesn't know it. Harry Reid gave the republicans in Nevada a shellacking in 2010 when all the polls said he was going to lose.

       

      http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/pollster-most-people-are-getting-the-critical-latino-vote-wr

       

      We proved you and your ilk wrong time and time again. Most recently in 2012 when polls has Obama losing Colorado. He ended up winning by 5 points.

       

       

    2. I'm new here, and I wonder, Mr. Carnegie, what exactly it is that you're trying to prove here? That people are stupid? 

      People are stupid. There are a lot of stupid people out there, and some of them are in Colorado, and they'll vote Republican no matter what. I'll bet that a whole bunch of military types in El Paso County voted for Bush in 2004, even though Bush could easily have been impeached for treason (aiding and abetting the enemy), and they voted for him because they're stupid people. Simple as that.

      I also bet that a lot of these Republicans think that Obama is responsible for Bush's debt, a debt which will almost certainly take more than fifty years to pay off. Or that Obama was responsible for the near-crash of the economy when Bush was president.

      I think everyone gets it. People are stupid, and they vote Republican. 

    1. Nah, based on those amazing, incredible, wowzer-zowzer polls like the ones AC is posting, I think he and Moddy ought to bet the farm, and mortgage their houses for a huge payday on Nov. 4th!  I mean, they have FAITH, who needs anything else?

      Polls from those folks are never wrong, and there is absolutely nothing any campaign can do to change the outcome!  It's a sure thing, so go for it guys 🙂

      1. "… before my tax cuts work".  Wow, Sam must want that job for life.  We're still waiting for Reagan's tax cuts to work, and that's been over 30 years…

      2. He has to own this.  It's not like he can say 'Oops, my bad' at this point in the election cycle. But, I doubt there is any point that he could or would, for that matter.  And adding in that the millennial and Latino votes are underpolled, he is one large college campus and one meat packing plant way from a possible loss.  If they vote, that is.  I do have to smile at the corner he has put himself and the Kansas gop. 

      3. He promised to make his state the petri dish for pure Tea Party policy. He did. The experiment proves those policies to be abject failures. Looks like the people of Kansas are ready to try something else. People who poll as trusting Rs more on economic issues should consider that Brownback's policies are the same ones the majority of Rs in the US congress, state legislatures and serving as Governors support and wake the hell up.

  5. Half-way off the subject; has anyone else noticed that all those loony tea party governors' states have been blessed by the courts with marriage equality? Michigan, New Jersey, Indiana, Arizona, Oklahoma; the list goes on. They're kicking and screaming about it, but they have no arguments against it that haven't been tried and rejected repeatedly. Just one of those things that make me go "Hmmm..".

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