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June 24, 2025 07:47 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.”

–Clarence Darrow

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18 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. OK, folks…let's get real here.

    There is one reason, and one reason alone, our armed forces carried out such a marginally useful, very expensive, attack at a premature time.

    Dear Leader is desperate for his Nobel Peace Prize. He wants it now. He has brought about an end to the war in the Mideast…amirite? What are they waiting for?

     

     

    1. The announcements of this year’s Orwell War-is-Peace awards??

      (What with always mighty perennial favorites Bibi and Pootsie, and a very strong field of eastern division contenders: Un, Jinping, Modi and Sharif, try as he might TACO Donnie might not even get a measly thank-you participation ribbon.)

    1. You're in good(?) company:

      BREAKING: Iran-aligned hackers hit Donald Trump right where it hurts and claim responsibility for a recent cyberattack against Truth Social after he illegally bombed Iran without Congressional approval.

      Trump is facing the consequences of his own actions in record time…

      According to the cyber nonprofit Center for Internet Security (CIS), hacking group 313 Team has taken credit for a damaging distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack that was carried out on Trump's ironically named social media platform shortly after he struck Iran's nuclear facilities.

      The attack caused a slew of problems for the website, which has become Trump's preferred method for communicating with the world. The success of the hit raises the prospect of similar attacks in the future, especially if Trump continues to escalate the conflict.

      The decision to target Trump's businesses shows that Iran recognizes a key facet of his personality: he cares far more about his own personal wealth than the welfare of the United States. If he proceeds down this path, it won't be just America that get's targeted, it'll be his wallet.

  2. House Preacher er Speaker Collins cites imaginary experts on Constitutionality of War Powers resolution.

    House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., argued Tuesday that the War Powers Act, a Nixon-era law limiting the president’s power to unilaterally wage war, is unconstitutional, and vowed that a pending resolution to bar U.S. military action in Iran under that law will not pass the House.
    Johnson told reporters that President Donald Trump’s decision to order strikes on Iranian nuclear targets over the weekend was “clearly” within his powers under Article II of the U.S. Constitution.
    Many constitutional scholars believe that the law known as the War Powers Resolution violates Article II, Johnson said, adding, “I think that’s right.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/24/johnson-war-powers-trump-iran.html

     Oh, you mean "talking heads on Faux News that are now Constitutional Law experts kind of scholars?"

    Going back to when Repubs were suing the Clinton Adminstration have the courts EVER found this resolution to be unconstitutional. So yeah let the RNC waste some lawyer money on THAT…

  3. Yeah, I do find strange that Iran wasn't in on this ceasefire. I guess ol orange F A T T Y was so busy with his "best words" coming form his "best brain" that he forget to phone them and leave a message. 

  4. Big Balls has reportedly resigned from the government. Forget about Iran and Ukraine and the bill and the debt – how will the republic survive? 

  5. This week’s word squirrel of the week, about which will now be argued interminably, is: obliterate, obliterate, obliterate.

    T****:   “completely and fully obliterated.”

    Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth: “Based on everything we have seen — and I’ve seen it all — our bombing campaign obliterated Iran’s ability to create nuclear weapons,” 

    Karoline Leavitt: “Everyone knows what happens when you drop 14 30,000-pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

    Well, it looks like maybe T***** can claim to have completely obliterated something anyway — the meaning of the word obliterate has now been removed from recognition or memory of all Administration lackeys. Get out your sharpies, kiddies, from now on it’s known as, The Gulf of Obliterate.

    Obliterate

    1: a: to remove utterly from recognition or memory; bto remove from existence destroy utterly all trace, indication, or significance of; c medical to cause (something, such as a bodily part, a scar, or a duct conveying body fluid) to disappear or collapse

    2:to make undecipherable or imperceptible by obscuring or wearing away.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/us/politics/iran-nuclear-sites.html

     

    [New from the Ministry of (un-fact-checked) Truth:
    Obliterate–close but no ringer (as in horseshoes).]

    1. Karoline Leavitt: “Everyone knows what happens when you drop 14 30,000-pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

      Well, actually….

      The Guardian revealed last Wednesday that top political appointees at the Pentagon had been briefed at the start of Trump’s second term that the 30,000lb “bunker buster” GBU-57 bombs meant to be used on Fordow would not completely destroy the facility.

      In that briefing, in January, officials were told by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency at the Pentagon that developed the GBU-57 that the bombs would not penetrate deep enough underground and only a tactical nuclear weapon would wipe out Fordow.

      The US strikes against Iran’s nuclear facilities involved B2 bombers dropping 12 GBU-57s on Fordow and two GBU-57s on Natanz. A US navy submarine then launched roughly 30 Tomahawk missiles on Isfahan, US defense officials said at a news conference Sunday.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/24/iran-strikes-nuclear-sites-report

      1. I don't know whether to be more relieved that we aren't ( yet) in World War III, or to be more worried that the leader of the free world is lying about preventing World War III. And he wants the Nobel Peace Prize for bombing a nuclear facility against his own country's constitutional protocols. 

    2. To quote from one of my favorite movies, The Princess Bride, "You keep using that word..I do not think it means what you think it means".

      1. Almost makes me long for the return of those much simpler, more innocent Clinton days when the important political semantic arguments were limited to the meaning of what constitutes “having sex” with someone and what “your definition of ‘is’ is.”

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