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January 20, 2025 12:13 AM UTC

MLK Day 2025 Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Only love, understanding and organized goodwill can cast out fear.”

–Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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25 thoughts on “MLK Day 2025 Open Thread

  1. Guess who said which:

    “When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.”

    Or:

    “He journeyed to Pennsylvania, where he spent a month and a half campaigning for me in Pennsylvania, and he’s a popular guy. He was very effective. And he knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So it was pretty good, pretty good. So thank you to Elon.”

    1. I really dislike the idea of pre-emptive pardons. It's a gross admission that just accusing someone is enough to ruin their lives. It shouldn't be this way.

  2. Hair Furor is already attempting to discard the constitution in favor of one-man rule.

    Trump executive order will attempt to end birthright citizenship

    The incoming president plans to take at least 10 actions related to the border or immigration, including ramping up deportations and suspending refugee resettlement.

    Scholars say the action would be unconstitutional.

    Old bully-boy figures he can get away with anything unless someone is strong enough to stop him.  The twice-impeached, 34-time felon seems to be on a path to become the first president daring us to prosecute him for treason.  

  3. And speaking of pardons … last Friday, NPR updated its database on the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot. They promise to follow any further action, including any pardons or commutations Trump may issue.

    • Number of people charged, federal: 1,575
    • Number of people who have pleaded guilty: 1,030
    • Number of individuals who have completed jury, bench, or stipulated bench trials: 261
    • Number with mixed verdicts: 76
    • Number convicted on all charges: 181
    • Number acquitted of all charges: 4
    • Number of people sentenced: 1,121
    • Percentage of people sentenced who have received prison time: 64
    • Median sentence for those who received prison time, in days: 240
    • Number of cases dismissed, federal: 14

    And my calculations:  pleaded or found guilty 1287, conviction rate in completed trials 99.69%. Cases dismissed include 10 where those at any stage in the process died before sentencing. 

  4. We, the United States, are going to be mocked. Our foreign policy will lead us to be taken advantage of. Corporate entities will rip out our valuables while political fiends will rip apart our values. We will dump money down the toilet with tax cuts adding to the debt, while spending on an immigration policy based on fantasy. Food cost will spiral, tariffs will increase prices. We are all going to have to cheer or face punishment. 

    May whatever God or being you believe in have mercy on your soul.

    1. Not to be complacent, but $rump can't do as much damage as he wants to do. In spite of his "Shock and Awe" Executive Orders today,  He's not gonna be able to change the constitution to revoke 14th amendment birthright citizenship. Tariffs on Chinese imports? Don't think Mr. Musk will care for that much. Same thing with ending the electric vehicle tax credits. Anything that would cut into Tesla's profit margins is probably not gonna go over well.

      But the rest of your grim predictions are probably going to come true. Food prices are going up, including meat and dairy because of the 90% undocumented immigrant workforce in those industries. The most powerless and vulnerable among us are going to be victimized and the real challenge for those of us with privilege of skin or income is whether or not we stand up for those folks. Will you?

      We need to organize close to the ground. Literally. Grow community gardens, including people that you normally would not associate with. Plant bee- friendly plants. join a civil conversation group at your local library More community organization. Stand up against book banning. Call a transgender person by their preferred pronoun, and don't let other people give them shit.

       

       

      1. I like the idea of organizing and being active locally. I have no chance of affecting hateful idiots in another state, but I have a better chance to make my community close to me a better place.

      2. "We need to organize close to the ground. Literally. Grow community gardens, including people that you normally would not associate with. Plant bee- friendly plants. join a civil conversation group at your local library More community organization. Stand up against book banning. Call a transgender person by their preferred pronoun, and don't let other people give them shit."

        I had actually hoped that some degree, of common sense would be captured in the PolCats comments. But noooooooooo. The same old group think since 2015. Trump change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America……I like that. I think I'll change the name of the Progress Now to Progress Dead-enders.

    1. Gotta be intentional. He's too arrogant to care about optics. The first time I saw it, I was thinking, "Oh, it's just a "dap", but his other arm isn't doing the dap. It's clearly a Nazi salute.

      1. "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action" ― Ian Fleming, Goldfinger.

        Report I read said it happened twice.

        Musk thanked the crowd for "making it happen", before placing his right hand over his heart and then thrusting the same arm out into air straight ahead of him. He then turned and repeated the action for those sitting behind him.

        Many on X, the social medial platform he owns, have likened the gesture to a Nazi salute.

        In response, Musk posted on X: "Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is sooo tired."

    2. Are you shocked, 2jung? I'm not even surprised. The Screaming Yam has his own tendencies in that direction, but the people he's trafficking with (Bannon, Musk, etc.) will pull him as far right as they can before a Democratic Congress calls them on the carpet to explain themselves. I think that once they start actually instituting their policies, many of the "what's the worst that can happen" crowd who voted for him will be horrified at the answer. 

        1. "That was more publicly blatant than I expected"

          Yeah, because of years of denying retweets of Pro-Nazi tweets count, because years of coming up with outs and excuses… They are Nazis, they have always been Nazis. You knew it and thought well as long as it isn't blatant and if it is ill excuse the behavior. That's what we all did. 

          1. Not all did. 

            The Republican Party has given us the first administration that is a true crime syndicate. Many of “us” have been warning of the Nazi takeover of the United States…for a long time.

            We told you what would happen if he returned to the White House..

            PS…Don’t worry though, Kevin Priola and CHB are about to lead an army of moderate Republicans to keep Trump from winning the elec…what? Oh…snap.

             

  5. Josh Marshall:

    The role of a political opposition is to oppose. Oppose everything. That’s especially the case in a situation like this when all the power is in Republican hands. They have majorities in both houses of Congress. Whatever happens is entirely a conversation and decision among Republicans. Again, an opposition’s role is to oppose. Putting forward an alternative program becomes relevant at the next election. At the moment the role is simply to highlight the corruption, highlight the empowerment of the wealthy few over everyone else and be the vehicle of opposition. This is their high watermark. Impassivity. Patience. Focus. They’re not as big as they look.

    1. Hoping there will be a way to track Trump’s Executive Orders and the court cases bound to follow many of them. 

      • Some of those are simply silly — I don’t care what Trump and his minions call the Gulf of Mexico, and Trump has no power over the UN agency working to coordinate names. I don’t care even if Florida has already adopted the new name in one of their weather advisories. 
      • Some of them are really unclear — “A directive to the federal government “ordering the restoration of freedom of speech and preventing government censorship of free speech going forward.”
      • Some are going to be challenged. LawFare website has headlines:

       

      1. Jennifer Rubin, writing at The Contrarian, insists I should be more precise with language.

        We cannot accept MAGA terminology. Since an “executive order” denotes a proper, legal exercise of power, that term should certainly not be applied to President Trump’s cascade of executive pronouncements (most over-reaching and unconstitutional, others just meaningless). They may be “edicts” or ‘bogus decrees,” as historian Jonathan Alter noted in our recent Talking Feds podcast. But they do not dignify the term “executive order.”

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