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January 08, 2024 12:34 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.”

–Voltaire

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      1. Most male Republican politicians campaign with a beard. Even the clean-shaven ones.

        “The reason to wear a beard is that other men don’t have impure thoughts”

        Quite the opposite. Dave “Let’s Go Brandon” Williams would probably be a big hit at a Bear event.

    1. Colorado Sun adds to the Williams story:

      • he’s going to stay as Chair of Colorado GOP, and
      • He included ““Authentic Christian leadership means serving others above self and not letting failed, say-anything politicians in Washington D.C. get away with taking citizens for a ride,” Williams said in a written statement announcing his candidacy.  [apparently, failed, say-anything politicians in Colorado Springs are fine.]
      • the article mentions others who may dive in:  Wayne Williams and Eli Bremer.
      1. Here's how I see the behavior of Colorado GOP "leadership" for 2024:

        After getting permission from Donald Trump, Dave Williams will continue to (at best) ignore Colorado GOP candidates so he can run for CD5. Meanwhile Ganahl, Walsh, the poorly named "Common Sense Institute", with the help of people with more money than sense in Florida and Texas, actually try to get Republicans in Colorado elected but in ways that are shady AF.

        Why have a Colorado GOP at all when we can have shady as fuck folk from Florida and Texas drive Colorado "conservative" politics? Bang up job, Republicans.

    2. Oh, Goody.

      Dave W is going to find out that the Republicans in CD5 don't necessarily like him any better now than they did in 2022, when  he primaried Lamborn and lost 59-33%.  He had a short legislative stint as representative for HD15.  Williams decided not to run for HD15 again.

      Bills sponsored: He wanted to designate sperm-donor conceived embryos as persons, and wanted a license plate with "In God We Trust' on it. He fomented hatred against immigrants.  He named some buildings and commemorated some  holidays.

      Being a miserable failure ( promoting fights and division, failing to raise money) as GOP Chairman will not endear him to CD5 voters. Williams is not known for his "people skills".

      So I say, bring it on, Davie!

       

  1. Elise Stefanik's Word Salad Auditions to be Trump's Running Mate. Emptywheel.

    But it was also a willful rejection of rational argument, in favor of blurting the key words she knows will win her favor from Trump.

    It was, most of all, an assault on rationality and truth itself: a refusal to engage in Welker’s futile attempt to get Stefanik to abide by her own words, much less adhere to rational defense of her, much less Trump’s, actions.

    I’m not really sure what to do with these exchanges, short of big outlets like Meet the Press refusing to invite insurrectionists. At the very least, people who chant fascist slogans to please Trump need to pay a price. But where? How?

    But the press needs to understand that interviews with Trump’s people are not, for him, designed to be a defense of his beliefs — or lack thereof. They are designed to throw out as many key words as possible to blur matters of truth.

    "Today’s appearance was, as everything will be for the next six months, an audition by Elise to be Trump’s running mate.

    And that dictated her pitch perfect — from a Trumpian sense — answers to Welker’s questions.

    Watch how she did it (I’m paraphrasing the transcript below. Direct quotes are marked. Trump keywords are in pink):"

    Welker: Do you still stand by your criticism of violence from January 6?

    Elise: You cut my defense of “election integrity“! Plus, I also condemned BLM violence. And did you know that [we are claiming without evidence] Joe Biden coordinated with Hunter Biden, who blew off our subpoena, which makes Joe Biden the most corrupt President ever?

    Welker: Well, the White House refutes your claim, but Trump lost fair and square. Do you think insurrectionists should be held accountable?

    Elise: Hostages! Prisoners! “I believe that we’re seeing the weaponization of the federal government against not just President Trump, but we’re seeing it against conservatives.” Weaponization. Two sets of rules. “If your last name is Clinton or it’s Biden, you get to live by a different set of rules.” Condemn the violence. Election integrity. “if we don’t have [election integrity], we do not have a democracy.” “[T]he real threat to our democracy is these baseless witch hunt investigations and lawsuits against President Trump.” Witch hunt. Tish James. DC Circuit. Undemocratic. Shredding our Constitution. “[Y]ou know who agrees with me, Kristen? The American people. That’s why President Trump is winning in poll after poll against Joe Biden.”

    Welker: But DOJ indicted top-name Democrats, including the president’s son, twice

    Elise [Interrupts] “[T]he American people are very smart. They know that they tried to give Hunter Biden a sweetheart deal. We’ve heard from multiple IRS blowers” [sic] [sic]

    Welker: “He’s been indicted twice, Congresswoman –”

    Elise: “A judge that threw out a sweetheart deal that was negotiated on Joe Biden’s behalf. Joe Biden and the Department of Justice have been withheld from going after the Biden crime family, which Joe Biden sits atop of.”

    Welker: “Other top Democrats have been indicted, as well. But we have a lot to get to, so I want to stay on track.”

    Elise is as good at this kind of word salad filibuster as Jim Jordan, and she cleans up a lot better.

    1. "But we have a lot to get to, so I want to stay on track.”

      This is the sound of success to a word-salader/whatabouter.

      It annoys me that this happens so often in interviews! I would love for an interviewer to be empowered to stay on a topic until the interviewee answers the fucking question.

      It seems interviewers go into interviews with ideas like "We're gonna ask so-and-so about these 4 things in this 20 minute interview" and they're so determined to ask about those 4 things that it doesn't matter to them as much if they even get an answer to one of their questions. They have to ask about the 4 things!

      I'd much rather have the interviewer spend the entire 20 minutes trying to get one actual answer rather than just move on to get 4 non-answers.

      1. You know, the TV show could have decided not to publich the interview. 

        Marcy Wheeler points out that Elise is auditioning to be Trump's running mate. She spews all that word salad garbage, knowing that Trump and Republicans will hear it. EVERY sentence starts with words words that sound like language, but is punctuated afterward with a Trumpism.

        The Republican Party is exclusively concerned propaganda and power. In order to gain power, you need to suck up to power.

      2. This is the problem Chickenheed. Trump and Trumpers lie, the lie is not refuted and the subject is never discussed in any detail, then they happily move onto the next lie/issue. It's probably the most frustrating thing about politics today. I agree I would prefer to have an interviewer stop at the first issue and keep going in that direction in great detail, in order to expose the lies and the lack of any sort of evidence to support the lies. 

        All most of the media does now is allow a platform for lies, where a completely ludicrous assertion can be made, unchecked, because we all have to move along to the next subject. That program format doesn't work anymore in today's political world, but we Americans have a very short attention span.

    2. The smart monesy says that that ignorant, asskissing cow has the inside track to being Trump's VEEP. She checks off a lot of boxes. And she skillfully avoided falling into the trap that was the election of a news speaker in October. (Anyone else notice that her name was conspicuously absent when they went through the roll call of candidates?)

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