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Israel and Palestine at war.
There is no such entity named “Palestine.” Said entity ended in 1948 with the termination of the British mandate that began after World War I.
The British had to deal with at least one intifada uprising during the Mandate. The terror attacks ended quickly when it was supposedly announced that any terrorist eliminated by the British would be buried in a burial shroud made of pigskin. The Israelis ought to consider doing the same.
That is some rightwing bigoted anti-Muslim bullshit right there. I don’t even know where to begin to fact check your assertions, but if you actually care about historical truth, you might start with history of Gaza in 2 minutes.
My family on my mothers side were all Jews caught up in the Holocaust; I understand seeking a safe haven in Israel. But for the Arabs and Palestinians already living in theose territories, it was akin to a squatter moving in to your home, throwing you and all your stuff on the street, and declaring that your neighborhood was now a new country, in which you were now a second class citizen and assumed terrorist.
Peace is not possible without human rights for the Arabs ( Palstinians, whatever you want to nitpick to avoid the real issues) who live in the occupied territories.
Netanyahu’s presumed goal is nothing short of genocide- he will flatten the Gaza strip, killing most of the population, then occupy all of it.
This was apparently the real lesson Israel learned from the Holocaust- might makes right, and pesky populations should be eradicated.
La Pomposa strikes again, with the usual flamboyance. Voyageur would be proud.
I’m far more aware of the history there than you think. I gave serious thought to moving to a kibbutz for a while after I got out of college in the 1970s. And I’m not even Jewish. One also learns a TON about history if one collects the postal history and postage stamps of a given area, which I did.
The Arabs made their choice in 1948 when they rejected the British and UN plan for partition. Think of it. The two state solution was there and waiting. Israel accepted it.
Voyageur was not a fan of Israel’s policy in the occupid territories- it was one of the areas we agreed on.
You and he would have been on opposing sides on this issue. Probably because he actually read history from multiple viewpoints, and didn’t absorb it from collecting stamps.
As usual, you ignore the points that don't fit into your personal agenda. Is it necessary to explain to you if I was considering moving to a kibbutz, that I would have researched everything thoroughly?
The fact that I was a philatelist added to the knowledge base. I doubt you've ever been a collector yourself. Otherwise, you would know the value of the hobby.
Thank you, kwtree! As someone whose father grew up Jewish in Israel (actually Mandate Palestine until he was 10 years old) outside of Mount Carmel near Haifa, and who is, like you, half-Jewish and still celebrates culturally, thank you for pointing to a central tenet of Jewish faith and culture…the respect for human rights. As a self-identified Jew (at least by culture and heritage), I have often said that we are failing to learn the lesson of my favorite Jewish holy day, Passover. Just as we are bid to imagine ourselves as if we ourselves were "slaves in the Land of Egypt", we should also be made to imagine ourselves as "unfree in the land of Gaza". These attacks (on both sides) only harden us, take us further into hardcore nationalism, and make peace less possible.
Exactly, Tiger.
Israel and Palestine are always at war.
Fixed it for you. It's just the time we hear about it is when the Palestinians are on the offensive.
Reading a (very) little on the situation, two items stood out:
(1) Hamas controls Gaza, and is in conflict with the Palestinian National Authority which "exerts partial civil control in 167 islands in the West Bank". Israel withdrew from Gaza and puts a lot of effort denying the legitimacy of the PNA.
(2) Israel has 7 brigades operating in the South around Gaza, compared to the West Bank, where Israel has 23 brigades around the settlements.
Also, in an interview the Head of the Republican National Committee, Ronna McDaniel welcomes the situation as a great opportunity for Republican candidates.
Charming of her.
Why we can't have nice things anymore ….
The Triangle Bar, one of Denver's first LGBTQ+ establishments, closes due to homeless encampments, owners say (yahoo.com)
I saw. I'd never been there, and definitely wouldn't have fit in, but it still infuriated me. How did this get so awful? When did it become okay for people to just congregate on streets like this? Something's gotta give.
That place had a lot of importance to me back in the day when I first moved to Colorado. Met some awesome friends many of whom are no longer with us sadly.
"When did it become okay to just congregate on the streets like that?"
The entire city has become one big cesspool. It really became more noticeable during and since COVID. Or maybe that's just my perception since during the early days of COVID, I rarely ventured into Denver. When I started returning downtown, all the street people (and I use the term "people" loosely since many of them are not toilet trained) in their tents were a lot more noticeable.
Find out who you’re talking about before you go generalizing. https://www.coloradocoalition.org/reports?gclid=CjwKCAjwg4SpBhAKEiwAdyLwvE6mRcjEb2AxL5XjN12OAzMkb5Fj8sjQAGi7lUzb2lKYepV5f6J71hoCACoQAvD_BwE
More than half a century ago, war was declared on poverty. Yet today we are much further away from victory than we were in 1965. How can that be?
Maybe it's time for a different approach.
In Alcoholics Anonymous, there is something called "the gift of desperation" which is basically people will finally do something to change their behavior when they're sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Well-meaning friends and family can deprive them of hitting bottom by enabling with acts of charity like food, clothing and shelter. Usually when you hand them the cash, they just re-up with their meth dealers. But people are free to do whatever they want with their own money. (I have found myself enabling friends and relatives at time.)
But you are not satisfied with the friends and families enabling the anti-social behavior of these people (again, I use the term loosely). You want the taxpayers to continue enabling this behavior with more funds being thrown down the rathole which is the homelessness industry.
Enough is enough.
US Census figures ..Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, 1960 to 2022 Annual Social and Economic Supplements (CPS ASEC).
year …..pop ………. # below ……….% below
1965…..191,413…..33,185……….17.3
1975…..210,864…..25,877……….12.3
1985…..236,594…..33,064……….14.0
1995…..263,733…..36,425……….13.8
2005…..293,135…..36,950……….12.6
2015…..318,454…..43,123……….13.5
2021…..328,191…..37,933……….11.6
@kwtree: your CCH group is part of the problem.
“something’s gotta give…..” I would agree with you, Cook. The city has put millions into trying to deal with the homeless situation. But that isn’t enough for the self-appointed “homeless advocates.” Some such “advocates” have been raking in big salaries for years and the metro area still has homeless.
Some people like the “independence” of living on the streets without anyone telling them what to do. They panhandle for a living and uninformed, well meaning, people reinforce that bad behavior.
Several years ago, 9News did a feature on the homeless and found that out. More years ago, my own work in social services learned that fact. Yes, some are mentally ill. But few are so far gone that they can’t make decisions for themselves.
It wasn't that bad. It's overpriced and not well attended because there are better gay bars. I'm sure if the Coors family works hard they will be able to afford to open again.
I'm not saying homeless don't exist and it's not a factor in why they are closing but it wasn't just because of the homeless. The problem is people didn't return after the pandemic.
Maybe they wanted to, but who wants to wade through that mess? Sorry kwtree. I'm in West Wash Park and several apartment buildings and businesses have put snow fencing around their greenbelts to keep the "campers" out.
Voter registration statistics are out, updating to the end of September. The monthly trends continue:
ACTIVE REGISTRATIONS
….. ….. ….. ….. Democrats….. Republicans….. Unaffiliated ….. Total
Count….. ….. ….. 1,051,938 ….. 929,203….. ….. 1,855,584 ….. 3,909,128
% of registered ….. 26.91% ….. 23.77%….. ….. 47.47% ….. ….. 100.00%
month's change ….. ….. 167 ….. ….. –325 ….. ….. 14,041 ….. ….. 14,672
6 month change ….. –5,010 ….. ….-3,421 ….. ….. 76,095 ….. ….. 70,929
Since 11/1/2020 … –77,795 …… –99,036 ….. ….. 314,385 ….. …141,892
I figured the first GOP candidate to weigh in would be Nikki Haley but "Super Fly" beat her to it…..
Pence slams Trump, GOP ‘voices of appeasement’ as Israel comes under attack – POLITICO
Jesus H. Christ —
I am pleased to say that I have never owned an Alexa and I never will.
You don't own Alexa; she owns you.
It's all finally starting to make sense to me.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/08/ken-buck-speaker-candidate-unify-00120512
Buckles makes me laugh
“It's better to play out in private where the cameras aren't on."
But, Kenny, that will never get you a gig on CNN.
See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil …..
Nancy Mace Ridiculed for Response to Jim Jordan Allegations Question (msn.com)
Which is easy to do as long as you keep your head far enough up inside your own asshole.
BTW, Mace cited My Kevin' failure to get her sexual assault legislation to the floor for a vote as a reason why she did not trust him. She made a point of talking about being a sexual assault survivor. I wonder how she could look in the eye those men whose assaults by the team doctor were concealed by Jordan?
It can be difficult to distinguish between Nancy Mace and Nikki Haley. Similar in appearance, they are even more so in their tired rhetoric. Even their deflection, their denials, and their lies are recited from the same page.
While, presumably, somewhat less dangerous than the Orange Destruction, Inc. or the DeSantis syndicate, I cannot imagine any reasonable, rational, person who would support such vapid ignorance (Haley) taking the reins of presidential power.
It seems highly likely that Congresswoman Mace has similar ambitions.