Thursday Open Thread

“A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus.”

–Martin Luther King, Jr.

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  1. kwtree says:

    Should we be worried about RFK, Jr?

    Robert Reich says “Maybe.” 


    • JohnInDenver says:

      I worry about RFK,Jr.  Anyone who believes that the US fueled conditions for the Russian invasion of Ukraine and that the solution is for the US to withdraw support has a tenuous grasp on reality.  Anyone who believes "ending the suffering of the Ukrainian people" can happen by allowing Russia to maintain control of lands it claims is naive.

      As a political threat to Biden inside the Democratic party, I might begin to worry if RFK Jr. raises $10 million or arranges to be on the ballot in 10 or more states.

      • Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

        As long as he keeps polling at or under 20%, the Democratic delegate selection rules prevent him from accumulating many delegates. 

        If he is at 20%, he might amass enough delegates to get his name placed in nomination and some time at the podium. Some embarrassment for Biden, yes. Serious threat, probably not.

        By the time of the convention, he will probably fizzle out and pose the same threat to Biden as Lyndon LaRouche posed to the Democratic nominees in the '80's and '90's.

        Cornel West is a bigger problem for Biden come November 2024 in states that close.

    • Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

      But she never misses an opportunity to remind us.

      • MichaelBowman says:

        There is no flag in the image. There is a silhouette of a soldier standing in salute. The Air Force seal is present and a rainbow (Pride) banner is in the background. Even a one-dimensional mind should be able to view two-dimensional images.


  2. Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

    Only the good die young.

    Pat Robertson, Who Gave Christian Conservatives Clout, Dies at 93 – The New York Times (

    Pat Robertson was Q-Anon before there was a Q-Anon. Folks would simply nod and smile when he would say ridiculous and outlandish things because back then most folks knew the difference between reality and fantasy. 

    • MichaelBowman says:

      In this case in particular I hope my theory that God is a black woman is true. 

      Mr. Robertson built an entrepreneurial empire based on his Christian faith was a pioneering grifter in the White Prosperity Jesus cult.

      There. I fixed it.

    • Genghis says:

      The grift will continue, but at least this shitbag is dead, finally and thankfully.

      • Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

        We've already seen that the next generation of Christian grifters does have the brain power that the prior generation had.

        Exhibit A being Jerry Fallwell, Jr., his delightful and horny wife, and the Pool Boy.

        • Genghis says:

          That's true, and I very much hope things work out the same with Robertson's scumbucket spawn.

          Falwell Sr. was a fucking monster, and was all the worse because he was generally competent, effective, and good at the horrible shit he did. By contrast, Falwell Jr. was a total slapdick, as stupid, venal and incompetent as anyone who ever lived. He ended up disappearing in a puff of greed, corruption and cuck fetishism.

  3. coloradosane says:

    The sad duty of politics is to establish justice in a sinful world.

     Reinhold Niebuhr

  4. coloradosane says:

    Veterans and interested observers might note that Pat while hating communists did his level best to avoid kinetic warfare to push them back in Korea. 

    "My single distinct memory is of Pat, with a big grin on his face, standing at the dock at Kobe after his second phone call, saying something like, "So long, you guys good luck," and telling us that his father had gotten him out of combat duty. Again, I don't think anyone was offended; I remember being amazed at the time that a U.S. Senator had that kind of power."

    Paul McCloskey

    Fortunate Son

    Song by Creedence Clearwater Revival

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    Some folks are born made to wave the flag
    Hoo, they're red, white and blue
    And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
    Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no senator's son, son
    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no furtunate one, no

    Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
    Lord, don't they help themselves, Lord?
    But when the taxman come to the door
    Lord, the house lookin' like a rummage sale, yeah

    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no
    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no fortunate one, no

    Yeah-yeah, some folks inherit star-spangled eyes
    Hoo, they send you down to war, Lord
    And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
    Hoo, they only answer, "More, more, more, more"

    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no military son, son, Lord
    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no fortunate one, one

    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no fortunate one, no, no, no
    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no fortunate son, no, no, no
    It ain't me, it ain't me…

    Source: Musixmatch

    Songwriters: Bruce Hornsby

    Fortunate Son lyrics © Jondora Music, Zappo Music

  5. MichaelBowman says:

    “There’s this “so-called particulate thing in the air”

    Own the libs, Granny!!  Step out and take a deep breath!! 

    America, you had a good run. 

    • Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

      And we use the rising sea levels in places like Florida – where Woke goes to drown – as another climate cudgel.


      • MichaelBowman says:

        It's why we have PM emission standards (diesel engines, power plants).  Maybe we can put Jesse in a garage with an idling, pre-Tier 2 diesel engine and see how long he lasts? The particles are each about a 30th as wide as a human hair, are dangerous to human health because they are tiny enough to penetrate into the lungs and bloodstream.

         Thirty-five micrograms of the particles per cubic meter of air is considered a safe average level in the air for one day. Wednesday’s average level in seven stations across the city was 377, nearly 11 times as much as that threshold.




    • JohnInDenver says:

      And this maroon's medical or public health credentials are ….. ??????????

      Pretty certain that he'd also think that cigarette smoking isn't a problem.  And if I wanted to make a splash on Fox News, I'd agree and point out my mother-in-law didn't die until AFTER she stopped smoking.  [she'd only smoked for 62 years or so, and quit 3 or 4 days before she died.]

    • unnamed says:

      Maybe Jesse can brave the orange cloud 24/7 for as long as it's covering New York.  

      How does this "own the libs?"  Please proceed guys.  This lib, couldn't care less.

    • notaskinnycook says:

      Did they miss the footage of people in China and India walking around in N95 masks as a normal thing long before COVID?

    • Washopingmylastpostwouldbemylast says:

      I woulda’ guessed that Gertz’s “audience” was mostly freshmen and sophomores????

      Gertz – Gaetz is there a difference?

      In the whole history of media journalism, has there ever been any other entity so anxious to help facilitate the extermination of huge swaths of its core audience?

    • Schrodingers Dog says:

       “How are they doing at the Fox News Old Folks Climate Denial Dance Marathon?”

         “They’re dropping like flies!”

  6. Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

    Didn’t see this coming ….

    Supreme Court rules in favor of Black voters in Alabama redistricting case (

    Who expected Roberts and Kavanaugh to throw us a bone?

    This case not only opens the door to a second majority-minority district in Alabama but also in Louisiana. Nice!

    • JohnInDenver says:

      The ruling will trigger a number of fights in several states.  I've now seen a couple of people writing they think the way the opinion is written, the same principles could apply to categories OTHER than race. Maybe packing and cracking populations to maximize partisan advantage isn't a Constitutional right.

    • Dano says:

      Can't say I'm terribly surprised. I don't know Kavanaugh as well on redistricting issues, so wasn't sure how he'd vote, but Roberts did not surprise me. He tends to be rational on certain issues and representation is one of them.

      • Roberts has been on the rollback side of many Voting Rights Act rulings. This was a surprise, but at least one analysis says that Alabama just didn't reach for the stars; had they challenged Section 2's "racial bias" or age they might have ruled differently, both Roberts' ruling and Kavanaugh's concurrence suggest.

  7. MichaelBowman says:

    Oh, Honey Boo Boo, the number you should be focused on is 546, not 1023. No matter how hard you try to look like you have two firing neurons and can understand complex theories, FDFQ is never going to offer you the VP slot. 

    Just don’t be late, I’ll look forward to you and Rudy’s presser at Four Seasons with the breathless, made-for-NewsMax findings of your nothingburger diuretic sliders equivalent. 


  8. Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

    And then there was some good news coming out of New York ….

    Could Democrats Get Another Shot at Redistricting in New York? – The New York Times (

    If they try to redraw the lines to help the Dems, they will need to exercise some degree of self-restraint.

    Remember, pigs get fat while hogs get slaughtered.

  9. MichaelBowman says:

    The day our American “Crazy Eyes” Goebbels found Jesus. No word yet on whether she’s still contemplating her Master Plan to invade and crush Canada, perfect the Jews, invade Muslim nations and convert them to Christianity at gunpoint, "rape the planet," publicly flog and humiliate black children, and arm women while taking away their right to vote.

    • MichaelBowman says:

      Seems like just yesterday…how long before she’s back to turning tricks at the Four Seasons?

    • Dano says:

      It draws the battle lines, if nothing else. Probably just draws him into the corner though,

    • JohnInDenver says:

      Pence is spinning like a top, trying to figure out his position on Trump:  Here's some of the coverage:

      Former Vice President Mike Pence said during a CNN presidential town hall that the Justice Department indicting former President Trump, would exacerbate the country's divisions and send a “terrible message” to the world.

      Pence, when pressed by moderator Dana Bash on whether Trump should be indicted if he is found guilty of a crime, said that "no one is above the law."

      Pence wouldn't directly answer Bash's question on whether a vote for former President Donald Trump is a vote against the Constitution. In discussing the Jan. 6 insurrection, Pence said Trump "was wrong then, he's wrong now."

      Mike Pence spent part of his campaign announcement disavowing Donald Trump then stating that he would vote for Trump if he became the nominee.

      • Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

        That is nothing compared to the pirouette he is going to have perform when asked whether he will support newly-indicted Trump if Trump is the eventual nominee.

  10. Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

    The shit has hit the fan in Box Hoax

  11. DawnPatrol says:

    Now comes late word that the scandalous, infamous JAMES WATT is dead.

    Jeebus, what a day!

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