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September 19, 2012 09:01 PM UTC

Tipton Goes Full Orwell In New Medicare Ad

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Here’s a new ad for freshman GOP Rep. Scott Tipton, running against Democrat Sal Pace in CD-3. This ad is produced by the National Republican Congressional Committee.

This ad is intended to blunt a major line of attack on Tipton, his vote in 2011 for the GOP budget proposal authored by Rep. Paul Ryan. Tipton promised during the 2010 campaign, surrounded by senior citizen extras, that there would be “no cuts, no privatization” of Medicare. Despite that promise, the 2011 GOP budget centered around a plan to privatize Medicare in ten years.

There’s only one way to say it: this ad depends on the viewer not knowing basic facts. Tipton sets himself up as the “defender” of Medicare because of his opposition to Obamacare–completely ignoring his own vote to privatize Medicare. The closest Tipton gets to acknowledging that vote is his assertion that “we can’t let Medicare go bankrupt,” which is apparently the full explanation for his vote to privatize Medicare and abandon his promise to never do so.

Perhaps worse is Tipton’s attack on opponent Sal Pace, a state legislator, for his “support for Obamacare”–even though Pace has made waves among Democrats for equivocating on the Affordable Care Act. Regardless, the claim that “Obamacare cuts Medicare by $716 billion” has been debunked by every fact-checking outfit in America, every time it’s been trotted out.

So in addition to Tipton counting on viewers not knowing the facts, he’s counting on them never consulting with any fact-checkers. Whether or not it works is yet to be seen, but the factual history behind this ad makes it a 180-degree departure from the truth.

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26 thoughts on “Tipton Goes Full Orwell In New Medicare Ad

    1. Repeating a lie louder doesn’t make it less a lie. This claim has been debunked. Several times. I don’t care how loud Sununu says otherwise, I’m going to need some facts. Get over it and get a better argument.

      Who is this “O’Brian” woman anyway? The reporter’s name is correctly spelled in the title of your own video. Step 1: Know your own shit. <–This is good advice.

    2. Democrats are in denial.

      http://www.nationaljournal.com

      The country’s two marquee social insurance programs, Social Security and Medicare, are being pushed toward insolvency by near-term economic challenges and long-term trends of population aging and health care costs, according to the annual report released by the two entitlements’ board of trustees.

      The trust funds of Treasury bonds that provide back-stop funding for the programs will be exhausted sooner than anticipated: the Medicare hospital insurance fund will exhaust in 2024, five years sooner than expected, and the Social Security trust fund will expire in 2036, a year earlier than last projected.

      Economic conditions drove an even deeper near-term deterioration in the fiscal condition of Medicare’s Hospital Insurance Trust Fund, which is now facing insolvency five years earlier than expected due to lower inflation-adjusted Medicare receipts as a consequence of sluggish economic growth. Those problems were concentrated in the next couple decades, and the longer-run 75-year actuarial deficit experienced a far more modest decline from .66 percent to .79 percent. If the Hospital Insurance program exhausts its trust fund in 2024, dedicated revenue would be enough to pay 90 percent of the program’s costs. That portion would decline to three-quarters of costs in 2045 before climbing gradually to reach 88 percent in 2085.

      But why deal with the reality of the situation when we can keep our heads in the sand for one more election?

          1. Isn’t the tool Americans would expect.

            Modernizing and streamlining the medical bureaucracy and eliminating duplicative services, and reining in medical inflation is the goal.

            The answer is not simply rationing care by making it unaffordable, as vouchers are guaranteed to do.

          2. I support financial sustainability and personal responsibility.

             Words on a blog and nothing more.  Are you really this two-dimensional? Do you only cast a shadow when walking aligned with the sun?  

          3. Privatize Medicare  to kill save it?

            The reason Medicare exists is that  sr Americans could no longer buy health insurance.  What’s changed that the will be able to now?

          4. …with severe brain injuries.  Injuries like could happen to you or to me.

            So, tell me how increasing his personal responsibility will help financial sustainability.  

            Do these programs have problems on the horizon?  Sure.  Reagan and the Dems tweaked SS once, we can do it again.

            We also have, compared to most Western countries, a lot of money that could be pulled from our empire’s military budget, and to say nothing of corporate welfare.  

            1. The one I’m sure Libby and AGOP didn’t read, about the Republican Congressional staffer who did a volunteer stint down in New Orleans after Katrina and came out of it understanding that the 47% aren’t moochers, and that some people really do need the help that government provides.

              Our resident Republican commentators haven’t been there yet, haven’t seen that. When told that insurance companies won’t take on seniors if we give them vouchers of decreasing real value and repeal Obamacare, they don’t want to believe the history that led to the creation of Medicare. When told of someone with dementia who cannot make the tough decisions to take care of themselves, they can only believe that people like you PR will be around for each and every one of them.

              The world is nice and rosy to some people; it’s morning in America every day for everyone!

              1. And brave for that man to recognize and then publish what he discovered.

                In the Republican’s world view, everyone is given and has all of the highest attributes possible in our species.  No one is sick unless they don’t have “initiative”, that’s Grover Norquist’s solution to what ails a man.  

                And, of course, white.  

      1. But, the discussion on global warming . . .

        But why deal with the reality of the situation when we can keep our heads in the sand for one more election?

        .  .  .  is usually found on the open thread.

        But, while we’re here, tell me, why do Republicans lose more sleep over the slim prospect of distant future monetary insolvency (which is very fixable with some adjustments) than they are over the prospect of future climatic disaster (over which we have shown no willingness to curtail or adjust for)?  I guess you and Tipton can face the prospect of an uninhabitable planet, so long as you still have a checking account balance?

        1. Here’s a great piece from the Colorado Observer on gloabl warming though:

          http://thecoloradoobserver.com

          How to explain a spate of “extreme” weather in the face of falling emissions of carbon dioxide?

          Yes, that’s the case.  It seems that the amounts of evil CO2 released by decadent Americans into the atmosphere dropped to the lowest level in 20 years this year.  And it’s all because of natural gas replacing coal, but that’s another story.

          The Associated Press memorably put it this way: “Many of the world’s leading climate scientists didn’t see the drop coming, in large part because it happened as a result of market forces rather than direct government action…”

          Well, there’s no surprise there – government action is what the climate alarmists want, and it’s not for the good of the climate. It’s about power and control.

          1. By the time I’m finished, I expect you will have more responses than you can answer as to how much is wrong there, but especially that conclusion.

            Before I go, my advice:  worry about money — you suck even worse at science.  

          2. Falling emissions, if we’re lucky enough to be experiencing such a thing, doesn’t mean there’s less man-made CO2 in the atmosphere, only that we’re adding less to what’s already there. So the implication that the climate change isn’t due to this is a flat out, non-science-based conclusion. Also known as “spin.”

            Further, falling emissions may well rise again due to the same “market forces” being trumpeted – again, only if such a thing is actually happening.

            The Observer is a Republican organ, of course, so it absolutely can not be trusted by any means. But it still fails even when you take their reporting to be factual.

            1. Knows it is 98% fiction.  It should be an embarrassment for any adult to put their name on the crap published there, but they do and ArapaBOT licks it up.  

              1. There’s a very good chance this guy is on their staff.

                I wish it was as simple as ‘bot being gullible, but I’m serious when I charge him with being a propagandist for the GOP. Maybe not the party proper; more likely some group paid for by someone like the Koch brothers or Sheldon Adelson. There’s a remarkable amount of coordination apparent in his posts, and what shows up at Peak, the COO, and Revealing Politics. I believe a North Dakota blogger, who found out someone from the last place was misrepresenting himself as a supporter of a Democratic candidate in that state, did some digging and found that several of these groups had the same address in LoDo.

                Whatever this little cabal is, ‘bot is doing their work here, and possibly at other sites. (I don’t read the comments on Post articles – whoever says youtube comments are the worst must have never read the typical news report comment thread – so if he’s out there it would be hard to detect unless he’s using the same screen name.)

                I predict that they stagger on a little while after the election (especially if we’re lucky enough to have Pace turn out Tipton along with Obama carrying Colorado, since that’s the only other truly competitive race happening) but quietly get the plug pulled.

                1. I see the coordination too.  Or the attempt at it.  They have even talked up replicating the ‘Colorado Model.’

                  But venues like the Observer are an embarrassment to advocacy.  Its not like people and interests can’t be advocates, even conservatives and even nutters–its that the Observer is an insult and should be disdained by any thinking adult.  But such people have all either already abandoned the GOP or are in hiding.  

                  The BOT may be a party-bot but he’s still gullible. Either he thinks his masters will reward him sufficiently and allow him to crawl up the ladder a bit if he keeps mouthing their talking points, or he believes the nonsense he peddles. Perhaps both. I wonder if he has original thoughts at all?  

          3. hit on the difference between a single-year’s release figures and highest atmospheric CO2 concentration levels in the past 20 million years.  (It’s analogous to the difference between a single year’s budget deficit and the National debt.)

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C

            Not that this one-year release reduction isn’t a good thing.  But it isn’t the end of the problem — far, far from it.  But it does show that the solution is much more attainable, and here’s how.  Government.

            As for conclusion that this just happened spontaneously, from the magic of industry,  without government — hah!  The reason that there are so many more gas-fired electrical generation plants in this country today is because these primarily had to be built to meet American government-mandated emission and pollution standards.  These plants in turn created a larger demand for natural gas, that industry has met — also a good thing.  But if it weren’t for the emission and pollution standards pushing the country’s more-rapid conversion from coal power generation, there wouldn’t have been as much demand to drive industry to produce and innovate.

            What this article shows mostly is that despite the false warnings and carping by industry and Republicans, that CO2 emissions can be contained within the marketplace without harming the economy.  And, that government mandates can have positive effects on our environment as well as on our energy markets.  

            Thanks for helping to make our case, numbnutz.

      2. The government could eliminate that long-run deficit with a permanent and immediate tax increase of 2.15 percentage points, separately, through an immediate and permanent 13.8 percent reduction in benefits, or through some combination of lesser tax increases and benefit cuts. Waiting longer to address the shortfall will push those numbers higher.

        Thank God, we’re finally going to have an honest debate with real solutions that result in governing. Seriously, you’ve reignited my love and hope for political discourse.

        Unfortunately the still-buried-in-sand Tipton isn’t as far along as you. He repeated a lie that your article didn’t, in spite of having what I’m assuming are facty numbers.

        I’m wondering how you are squaring “Democrats are in denial.” with Tipton’s repeated signing of anti-tax pledges. I’m also curious about what proof you have that privatization or vouchers will help to lower costs, while still fulfilling our promise to the elderly, which Tipton seems concerned about.

        There are, I think, three possibilities: You are in denial about who’s in denial, you didn’t read your article, or you assumed no one else would.

        Pity. I was so prepared for a conversation. Thanks for the link all the same.

  1. And maybe this is me being naive, and maybe I just don’t understand the bigger picture, but…

    When something has been debunked by every fact checker in the free world, and mocked relentlessly for being aggressively untrue, how in the FUCK do television stations justify accepting money and putting those lies out over their air? This is especially true for those channels who do news on a nightly basis, with the idea behind the news to inform the public.

    It’s not like the candidates will stop giving money to run ads; they’ll be back tomorrow if you deny them today. But running lies on your air? When they’ve repeatedly been called out as false?

    What am I missing here?  

    1. Bill Clinton was right, that takes some brass.  Pace must go on the air immediately and say just that.  No cuts to Medicare patients from Obamacare, only cost savings through hospitals and doctors.  Tiption voted how many bazillion times to make the same cuts and Tipton voted to privatize Medicare in five years.  The end needs to be a copy of the clip where Tipton promises not to do so with the tag line, we just can’t trust Scott Tipton.  

      It’s simple, do it.  Production costs negligible.  Get it done today and out tomorrow.  Fight back Pace campaign, or you are doomed by the uninformed public.  I won’t tell you again.

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