Friday Open Thread

“If two people always agree, one of them is redundant.”

–Ben Bernanke

11 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Duke Cox says:

    I am really amused by the ridiculous pronouncements of sophomore (and sophomoric) congresswomen Lauren Boebert and Marjorie T. Greene.

    Hot on the heels of Boeberts’ stern warning that SHE will never attend a World Economic Forum (to which she has never been and is very unlikely to ever be, invited), ol’ Marge stamps her hoof and says she won’t sign a debt ceiling bill…apparently unaware that congresswomen don’t sign bills, presidents do.

    Has the Republican majority in congress turned these two asshats into heads of state? Or can they really be that stupid?

    Ah..never mind.

    I think I know the answer.

    • ParkHill says:

      Not Stupid: Intentional.

      Republicans want to eliminate "socialism" (social safety net) and turn the US towards a system of oligarchs. In order to do that, they are willing to break things, especially they need to break people's trust in Government.

      In other words we are facing a coordinated attack on Democracy.

  2. ParkHill says:

    Ha-ha, ha-ha, ha-ha.

    Trump forced to pay Fusion GPS $55k for egregious politicized legal stunt.

  3. spaceman2021 says:

    Query whether the debt ceiling is itself unconstitutional as violating section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment, which says "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."  Interesting question to ponder and pontificate about, though whether it's a justiciable question is another matter entirely. 

    • Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:

      Probably, and it has been suggested that Biden go to court to seek declaratory relief on the issue before the deadline date arrives.

    • The debt ceiling on its own probably isn't unconstituional. But its effect when combined with the authorization of spending under various budgetary laws would seem to be. There are several legal principles involved, and I don't think you can count on SCOTUS to resolve the question in good time. I like the idea of repealing the debt ceiling or working it in to each budget approval, but Biden's surest bet for now is the "trillion dollar platinum coin" option.

      • JohnInDenver says:

        Congress has passed laws mandating spending via mandatory & discretionary spending.  The Executive branch cannot decide to ignore the programs and unilaterally sequester money.

        Congress has passed laws mandating collection of revenue.  The Executive branch cannot unilaterally cannot increase tax rates or simply go seize resources.

        And the Constitution says the debts of the government cannot be ignored and we must provide the full faith & credit of the government to paying the debts. 

        When the three mandates collide … something has to give.  A couple of law professors have written persuasively that the LEAST unconstitutional option is to ignore the debt limit. 

        • The Pt coinage is explicitly authorized by law, making it the least controversial — though probably not the least likely to make waves.

          Declaring that the debt ceiling takes a Constitutional back seat to (more recently authorized) spending and taxing laws is next in line and probably less shocking to the public.

          After that things get dicey.

      • ParkHill says:

        Fixed it for you:

        There are several legal principles involved, and I don't think you can count on SCOTUS to resolve the question in good time FAITH 

        • That, too. But SCOTUS will probably resist diving in to the middle of a debate between the Executive and Legislative branches until after some initial damage is done – and maybe not even then. I'm sure they'd prefer to referee the platinum coin debate or the Executive telling Congress that the debt ceiling had to be ignored — after the fact and on a regular Court schedule.

  4. kwtree says:

    Future of Park Hill Golf Course on the line. City Council will decide. – Westword

    harrydoby, Park Hill, anyone else following this- what do you think of the “mixed use” plan? I’m skeptical- I remember when Stapleton was billed as mixed use and “affordable housing”- but it’s now a de facto segregated neighborhood – east of Quebec is upper income white, west of Quebec is the same old working class mostly black neighborhood it’s always been. 


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