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July 27, 2022 11:24 PM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

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  1. This is how it's done, people….

    Surprise Deal Would Be Most Ambitious Climate Action Undertaken by U.S. – The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    I, my cynical self, was pleasantly surprised by Manchin's change in position.

    American Rescue Plan … check

    Bi-partisan infrastructure bill … check

    Katanji Brown Jackson nomination … check

    Bipartisan (but tepid) gun safety bill … check

    Climate and tax package … soon to be checked

    Looks like Biden has more accomplishments in 18 months than his predecessor had in four years.

    1. The Republican Party is REALLY pissed at Manchin. They thought they had him wrapped up in a pretty little bow. 

      Mitch was blackmailing the Democrats by holding the bipartisan SALT bill hostage unless they cancelled the Climate Change negotiations. In a political judo move, Manchin agreed to cancel the negotiations, SALT passed, and then Manchin & Schumer released the new Climate Change bill. 

      Ya just can't trust Democrats, can you!

    2. Indeed. I am proud of him. His steady commitment, though not liberal enough for me, has made The Orange Pretender irrelevant. 

      Way to go, Mr. President. Thank you.

  2. Reverse psychology against Republicans, from Twitter: Louisa 

    "Honestly I think more people could stand to frame things like “respecting pronouns,” “using chosen names,” and “describing yourself for blind people present” as just…being polite. Not as a political stance on inclusion, etc, but MANNERS."

    See the following twitter-burn headlines.

    I set up my web browser to automatically change "political correctness" to "treating people with respect"

    1. For my part, Parkie, I will stop making fun of political correctness when someone explains why “colored people” is obsolete and offensive while “people of color” — exactly the same description albeit clumsier — is au courant and PC.

      Anyone?  Anyone? Bueller?

      P.S.  My pronouns are Pabst Blue Ribbon

       

      1. The easiest answer, Voyageur … one should use the term preferred by those you are describing. 

        I wrote a master's thesis that too frequently used the word & variants of "youth."  When it was done, I showed it to one of the people in the group I was describing — and his question was "why don't you call them what we do, and what they call themselves … "kids"?  The organization was chock full of references to "kids," staff and supporters. I think I used the word once, in a direct quote.

        Growing up in New Mexico, I learned my school friends had families that were Hispanic, Latino, Chicano, Mexican, and Tejanos.  Other the last one being from Texas, I did not know the nuances of their background — but tried to remember who claimed the label. 

        So, if someone wants to be a "colored person" [one option from my Grandma's vocabulary] or  "person of color" or Black, or African-American, or Kenyan, I figure it matters to them and try to honor the choice.  If I am writing about a group to an readership, I go with the term my sources use or with the current AP style, figuring they worked harder than I did to find an answer.

        1. Are you suggesting pregnant women want to be called “pregnant people?”

           not in my world they don’t.

          As far as Colored People go, the NAACP pioneered inclusiveness.

          Finally, when discussing anti-abortion people, do you call them “pro life”? Since that is their preferred term?

        1. Nope.  Cape Coloreds was a classification in South Africa's apartheid system.  I only laugh that Colored people — a term with an honorable history — is verboten whilist the identical — albeit awkward — people of color is kosher.

          Apostrophes, now, they're racist!

    1. Rural Coloradans can be their own worst enemiesDiane Mitsch Bush actually cares about CD3 and would have made a much better Rep. for the district, but they decided to go with Tootsie. I wonder if they’re quietly regretting that decision yet.

    2. I'm smack in the middle of Denver — and I haven't forgotten rural Colorado. 

      There are LOTS of miles of roads not paid for by the county taxes or gas tax of the vehicles traveling the road.  Democrats have been party arguing for Medicare & Medicaid adjustments to support rural healthcare, and Democrats were most of the votes for the "bipartisan" Provider Relief Fund passed as part of the CARES Act — it did include targeted allocations to rural health providers.

      What policy area do you think of when describing Democrats "forgetting" Rural Colorado?

  3. Perhaps ol' "Coal- mining Joe" has decided he really DOESN'T want to go down in history as the most reviled Democrat who ever lived.

    Whatever the reason…it is big news.

  4. I could be wrong, but I think releasing the news publicly that there is a swap deal in the works for Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan for the merchant of death before it is finalized is a fuckup by the Biden administration. That can't help. Why would they do that?

    1. Roger, didn't you notice? Joe Manchin got his anti-inflationary, deficit-reducing revenue enhancers in the deal he and Schumer brokered.

    2. Seems a bit early, Roger.

      WAPO: The 8 economists who decide if the U.S. is in a recession

      Democrats and Republicans have begun arguing over whether the U.S. economy is in a recession ahead of a key data release on Thursday. But the official pronouncement will ultimately come down to a little-known group of economists selected by the National Bureau of Economic Research called the “Business Cycle Dating Committee,” which stubbornly takes its time and tries to wall itself off from political interference or attempts to spin its findings….

      The political haggling is not supposed to matter to the eight economists who rule on when recessions start. Their decision is almost certainly months away, if it comes at all: The committee typically waits long after a recession has begun to declare it, only acting when the evidence has become overwhelming, sometimes even after the recession is already over.

       

  5. Here is some really exciting news …

    Tina Peters will get primary recount, but not the version she requested (msn.com)

    I am assuming that Ms. Peters will focus on any difference between the original count and the recount to scream fraud at the top of her lungs (i.e., she originally lost by 88,000 votes but if it turns out she only lost by 87,999, it will give her something to talk about – and raise more money). 

     

    1. "raise more money."  And the marks and sheep are just waiting to be fleeced yet again of their hard-earned dollars.

      The Trump/Peters supporters have no valid complaint about inflation if they're giving away tons of money for those Big Lie causes.

      1. I saw Trump being interviewed this morning about the Saudi golf tournament and 9/11 families protesting across the street.

        Typical bullshit coming out of his mouth. First, he said that we have never gotten to the bottom of what happened on 9/11. (He overlooked the multiple investigations as well as his four years in the White House when could have commissioned a new investigation.)

        Then, he pivoted to the wonderful people there raising money for charity.

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