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May 11, 2012 03:46 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

  • 52 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“One in six of Obama’s bundlers: gay. One out of every six.”

–Rush Limbaugh, yesterday

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52 thoughts on “Open Line Friday!

  1. Report: Lauber sibling reportedly has no knowledge of Romney prank

    Published May 11, 2012

    A family member of the classmate whom Mitt Romney allegedly bullied in high school says she has no knowledge of the incident, according to news reports.

    Christine Lauber, the older sister of former Romney classmate John Lauber, has told ABC News she was at college when the incident allegedly occurred…

    http://www.foxnews.com/politic

      1. What idiots.  

        This is the headline on ABC News that Faux lifted their story from…

        Former Romney Classmate Describes ‘Bullying Supreme’ – A ‘Pack of Dogs’ Who Targeted ‘Different’ Boy

        A high school classmate of presidential candidate Mitt Romney told ABC News today that he considers a particular prank the two pulled at Michigan’s Cranbrook School to be “assault and battery” and that he witnessed Romney hold the scissors to cut the hair of a student who was being physically pinned to the ground by several others.

        “It’s a haunting memory.  I think it was for everybody that spoke up about it …  because when you see somebody who is simply different taken down that way and is terrified and you see that look in their eye you never forget it.  And that was what we all walked away with,” said Phillip Maxwell, who is now an attorney and still considers Romney an old friend.

        http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po

    1. The people, mostly homophobic, older white, pissed off, but they don’t really know why, other than the gout, that would never vote for this President any way, under any circumstances.

      Faux Nation.

      Doocey, Kilmead, Carlson lemmings.  

  2. Introduction: The Next Wave of School Reform

    The problem is that teaching and testing for basic skills also tends to lead to a dumbing down of the curriculum and to endless drilling for tests, which frustrates teachers, parents, and students alike. It also does little to improve students’ ability to think critically and independently, solve complex problems, apply knowledge to novel situations, work in teams, and communicate effectively-abilities that students must have to succeed in college and, increasingly, the modern-day workplace.

    Getting schools to impart these “deeper learning” capacities is precisely what the new wave of school reform aims to achieve. And there is good reason to hope the reforms work, because in many ways the competitiveness of the U.S. economy depends on it. On the Programme for International Student Assess ment (PISA), a widely used international test that measures higherorder thinking and problem-solving skills, the United States falls in the middle of the pack among thirty-four developed countries in reading and science, and ranks below the average in math.

    Transcontinental Education

    A Test Worth Teaching To

    Grand Test Auto

    Disclaimer for SXP & BlueCat – I do not agree with everything in these posts. I just think they raise some very interesting points.

        1. PS

          It ain’t one size fits most, like in the business world.

          And it’s not a program that just needs a little more stable platform or a faster network or just a few more lines of good code.

            1. How do you intend to do it?

              I’d like to measure creativity and critical thinking skills. I teach college and beyond so I get to if I choose to.  It’s harder to teach. It’s harder to test.  It’s really hard to measure.  And I get paid almost nothing.

              It was fun – I can’t afford to keep doing it.  I know it when I see it – I have some idea how to prepare hs students to do it but no idea how to measure it either in the studs or the staff.

              1. And we definitely need to keep improving it. And putting a large emphasis on measuring creativity.

                We face the same thing at my company – measuring creativity and ability in the interview process (programming skill is of only secondary importance). We’re a lot better at it now than we were 4 years ago. We’ll be even better in another 4 years.

                Part of it is we measure how well we measured to improve the system.

  3. Why I’m thrilled Mark Zuckerberg is annoying the bankers

    Now an arrogant young man comes pitching his company’s initial public offering. Instead of paying homage to the rightly masters of the universe, he shows up in a hoodie, takes private meetings instead of pimping himself on a stage, and does little to conceal the notion that he’d rather be back in his Silicon Valley office working with engineers and doing the things that he’s good at.

          1. the staff would put up with it to get through the IPO and then we’ll see the books/blogs.

            And I didn’t say he couldn’t work with anyone- though  I think that only works because they work for him.  I said he doesn’t like people.

            If you can’t see the difference, smell the glove, baby.

            1. When people are crappy to work for, word gets around in the high-tech community. Very fast. People left Microsoft, Google, etc. to go work at Facebook. (And it’s not the stock, they tends to be secondary for most people.)

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    Thursday, May 17, 5-9 PM

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  5. In addition to the civil unions issue, the special session will also address “holding drivers under the influence of marijuana… to the same standards as those applied to drivers under the influence of alcohol.”

    Great idea, except there is no such agreed upon standard for marijuana.  Instead, it is clear that a law will be passed out of this special session that sets severe criminal penalties for driving with practically any THC in the blood system without any connection to safe driving!

    This begs at least one question:  Would even an occasional marijuana user who also happens to be gay/lesbian end up better or worse after this special session?  On the one hand, they would have some rights established regarding civil unions.  On the other hand, they would be at risk of severe criminal penalties if they happen to be pulled over for a driving infraction.

    I cannot understand why a Democratic governor would choose, and it was a choice, to pull this pot DUI bill out of the heap of unpassed legislation and include it in the special session.  Perhaps Hickenlooper’s conscience about the mayhem his bars have caused has something to do with it.

    1. That’s what most governors do when marijuana legislation hits their desks. Er…granted, those pieces of legislation are usually to establish medical marijuana programs in their states, but still…

      In any case, here’s a perfect opt-out:

      A bill that could have increased tax breaks for tourism projects in Colorado has been vetoed by Gov. John Hickenlooper, who says the proposal was too rushed.

      1. This bill was specifically selected by Hickenlooper to be included in the special session.  And, the Executive Order calling for the special session states that this and the other bills to be considered is good legislation that had bipartisan support and advances “good government”.  

        He’s not going to veto this if it passes the special session.

  6. But something about him has always just rubbed me as odd.

    As is the case with everybody, I know gay people, work, hang out, go drinking with gay people, played sports when I wasn’t crippled, served in the U.S. Military with gay people and just in general have, as everybody, functioned in this great culture just fine in the presence of gay people.

    Not an issue. For me.

    For gay people, it’s an issue, what with the attitude, the discrimination, bullying, the  refusal of some to just mind their own business.

    If my kids or my grand kids or anybody I know or love are gay, It’s no issue whatsoever. Are they good people?

    That’s important.

    I’m not the first, guarantee not the last to just come out and say I think Limbaugh’s gay.

    Seriously.

    I won’t burn 250 lines with the anecdotals on what evidence is out there to substantiate it, but google the drug addicted hate monger’s life, his bio, and all that’s happened in his 60 years, and it’s there.

    Fine

    No problem.

    Except that he’s a bashing hate monger. A mean spirited and vicious snake. A hypocrite.

    And a coward.

    Never mind he dodged the draft,(seemingly a boomer repub prerequisite), he’s a coward like Mark Foley, Larry Craig, and David Drier. Like Melman, Lindsey Graham, and so many others that bash, demonize, minimize, marginalize people.

    Everybody here knows exactly what I’m saying.

    And God bless the President of the United States for his courage as a man, in his advocating for every American, in this case and every other.

    These reptiles could learn from him.

    Sorry, looks like I DID burn 250 lines!

    1. Or anyone else’s – well, politically.  Personally I like who I  like and I like when they like me.  (Yes like like, and also just like.)

      But you are mostly correct  – he hates.  It just doesn’t matter why.

      1. But you are mostly correct  – he hates.  It just doesn’t matter why

        Money..geld…moolah…greenbacks…you know, the ultimate drug.

  7. ripping somebody for being a jerk in high school seems a bit much.  We were all jerks in high school.  I was much more a bullying victim than a bully but I still feel the shame of watching kids pick on someone without stepping up to help them, just grateful in my cowardly way that they were not picking on me.  I don’t want to be too hard on myself, that shame was often why I stood up for underdogs later in life.

       But the point is in high school, we’re immature and don’t handle things well.  I have plenty of reasons to oppose Romney without going back to high school.

         

    1. …I’ll leave the question of whether I was a “jerk” in high school to my old classmates (and, at this point, we are all officially old!).  But I can say without equivocation that I NEVER held a boy down and cut his hair because he was gay or even “different.”  I never said “‘Atta girl!” to any boy I ever met.  As Joe Klein and others have noted today, what is more disturbing than the original story is Romney’s claim that he doesn’t remember the event and that he chalks it up to “hijinks.”  I find that — especially coming from a man who was caught on camera doing a derisive gay impression and who has publicly stated his opposition to civil unions — disturbing.

    2. There are two reasons that I think this may be more significant than just another story of bad behavior in the distant past.  First, I do not think Romney handled it very well. Does he truly not remember cutting some poor kid’s hair off? If he can’t remember, it was not a significant event for him and that is disturbing. Second, and probably more importantly, second to the claim that he lacks conviction (flip-flopper), the most common line of attack on Mitt is that he is out of touch, uncaring and has no understanding of what its like to be disadvantaged, oppressed or faced adversity. Regardless of the truth of that attack, this story reinforces it.  

      1. that RMoney can not remember something like this. It is far more cruel than any bullying I saw happen when I was in school. I remember, and feel shame, just for general rudeness toward some

    3. And, being honest, “but I still feel the shame of watching kids pick on someone without stepping up to help them, just grateful in my cowardly way that they weren’t picking on me” hit me like a shot to the snout.

      Been there.

      But that’s exactly what makes mittens the very worthy of scorn piece of breathing garbage that he’s being accurately called out for.

      He’s the coward we all remember, the “leader” of the “posse”, the mean spirited back stabber and coniver that orchestrates the beat up party, the one that initiates the rumors that end up with people being humiliated, endlessly tortured, and objects of hate.

      This guy’s feckless, flaccid, indecisive, mean of spirit, and his actions throughout his life serve to prove my point.

      No, ripping that coward for this is by no means a bit much.

      1. … there’s a difference between being a “jerk” and what allegedly transpired here. This incident was no mere obnoxious “prank,” as Mittens has called it.

    4. It’s allowed the right’s spinmeisters to bring up Obama’s high school years.

      He pushed a girl! He used drugs!

      How do we know that? Oh, well, you see — unlike revelations about Romney in the Washington Post — it’s in Obama’s own autobiography.

      Love the Breitbart, which calls Mitt’s mistakes “harmless pranks”:

      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-J

      And as for the drug use – well, that seems just a bit more serious than walking a teacher into a door or cutting a student’s hair.

      1. Is worse than violently assaulting someone else’s body.

        Do whatever you want to the blind and gay, but for the love of God, don’t make the adult decision to indulge in a substance that harms only you!

  8. The biggest problems facing the Catholic Church are Nuns and Girl Scouts  

    Long a lightning rod for conservative criticism, the Girl Scouts of the USA are now facing their highest-level challenge yet: An official inquiry by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops.  At issue are concerns about program materials that some Catholics find offensive, as well as assertions that the Scouts associate with other groups espousing stances that conflict with church teaching.

    I’d have less of a problem with Catholicism if I had any faith that they might stop short of any advocacy that led to everyone living the ways their faith dictates.

    1. Like Lutherans? Mennonites? Coptics? Gotta control those little female minds, don’t we?

      These out-of-touch, pampered old farts are scared shitless of losing control. They should go out into the world and get a job.

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