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April 08, 2022 11:12 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  1. I have a history of Poland called "Bitter Glory. "

    Ukraine too now covers itself with glory, if you can find it amid the blood,rubble, and broken dreams.

    The Free World should support these gallant people with food, arms, medicine and money.  To quote Churchill, Give them the means and they will finish the job.

  2. Two things on my mind this morning…

    I have been reading a few reports about a growing impatience with the Justice Department, in its apparent slow-walking of any action against the Orange King and his loyalists. 

    I suspect it is those same loyalists who are creating the problem. I have no doubt there are appointees and hires at the DOJ working as hard as they can to ensure TFG stays out of jail so he can come back in 2024. 

    The greatest benefit to Trump of the presidency was his ” Get Out of Jail Free” card afforded him by long standing tradition. He desperately needs back that “immunity”.

    Bill Barr could really help if he cooperated, but I have seen his interviews about his book he is hawking. All he is doing is covering his own ass. What a sniveling coward.

    Secondly, I cannot overstate my revulsion and horror at the reports of the complete brutality of the Russian Army under Putins’ orders. 

    Every American who listens to Tucker Carlson and stands with the Russian murderers can go straight to Hell.. you sicken me.

  3. There has to be a date that the Secretary of State’s office has to hit to finish verification of signatures for the primary.  Anyone know when it is?

    It is sometime later this month, as April 29 is the day on the calendar “Last day for the Secretary of State to deliver the Primary Election ballot order and content to county clerks. (No later than 60 days before the Primary Election)”

    1. Oddly I could not find a definitive date in the Statutes. Closest I could find was that The Secretary of state will certify candidate to the ballot after the challenge period for petitions is over, so if she must certify to the counties by April 29th and the challenge period, which is 5 days. is over, it would stand to reason the drop dead date to finish checking petitions is April 24th.

    1. Missing the point…

      We're not gonna take it
      Oh no, we ain't gonna take it
      We're not gonna take it anymore

      We've got the right to choose it
      There ain't no way we'll lose it
      This is our life, this is our song

      We'll fight the powers that be just
      Don't pick our destiny 'cause
      You don't know us, you don't belong

      1. Did you watch a different music video? 

        This is along the same delusion that had Paul Ryan saying he listens to Rage Against the Machine.

    2. It happened in the 80s, too. Republicans thought Born in the U.S.A. was a great patriotic song. They obviously never listened to the lyrics, either. Springsteen had to explain to them, in no uncertain terms that the song was not for them.

  4. Anyone get results on CD3 QOP assembly?  Did zimmerman make it? Coram? (though I think he is petitioning.)

    Update:

    Zimmerman twitter feed indicates she was shut out but may go on as a write-in. Really? Just back Coram.

      1. So, I ask for information and your reply is: Go Fish?

        Seriously, Fish is great. But while I have many faults, having a Twitter account is not among them.

    1. Write-ins rarely get more than low single-digit percentages, but man, if it's a close race? Potential's there to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    1. News seems a little slow coming out of the 19th century Republican assembly in Colorado Springs today. According to reporter Fish there is no wi-fi at the assembly and the cell service is a little overburdened. Apparently the demand for watermarked ballots failed when the delegates were told they don't have any and it would keep them there until midnight to try to come up with some. 

      1. laugh

        Mike Lindell got served with another defamation lawsuit , while speaking at the Capitol Wednesday for an “Election Truther” rally. Colorado’s Eric Coomer, formerly of Dominion  Voting Systems, is personally suing MyPillow Man. Tina Peters, out on bond, also spoke to the small crowd of conspiracists. 
        Eric Malbeutsch of Colorado Times Recorder wrote the story. 

      2. "News seems a little slow coming out of the 19th century Republican assembly"

        I'm surprised they have any kind of cell service what with all those people walking around in their tin foil hats.

  5. Sort of a different approach than the Zoom Webinar approach to the Democratic State Assembly, which proceeded quickly through quorum, rules, nominations and acceptances, and voting. 

    Then it bogged down over the platform and I needed to go to a different virtual event. Checking back to the Colorado Democratic Party page, the races decided today are here:

    Unsurprisingly, the argument of "we need a primary" and choosing the US Senate race as the place to make that point didn't win backing of 30%.

  6. Just read on a news feed that Marina Zimmerman did NOT make the CD3 ballot. Boebert shut her out in the assembly. I actually think that is a good thing. Now the republicans voters in CD3 have a choice between a human, Don Coram and, well, Boebert. Had Zimmerman been on there she would have split the sane-person vote with Coram.

    1. On her T witt er feed Zimmerman is pledging a write-in campaign.  In theory that could hurt Coram.  In practice, such an ego trip would draw minuscule votes.

  7. So the dem party chose a right wing fascists NAZI over a real progressive by making Bennet the only candidate for senate.
    Dems chose right wing policy and fascist murder for oligarchs instead of Medicare for all. Dems chose to push trumps tax cuts for the rich and republicans fascists policy for the rich just like Bennet does.
    Democrats have made their fascist choice for a right wing sell out instead of progressive policy for the people.
    Now I will have to make my choice to vote green or stay home as I will NEVER support a fascist murderer like Bennet again. I hope dems lose the seat, it's what the fascist party deserves.

        1. You don’t pay attention, much, do you?

          I was the first on here to call out “Denise” as a probable troll. That “Vote green or stay home” crap is from the same playbook trotted out in 2016. It’s a classic move to suppress Democratic votes.

          And this iteration, one can tell “Denise” doesn’t vote in Colorado. In Colorado, we can vote and stay home, dropping off our ballots at our convenience.

          But thanks for playing the same old shit-stirring game, R&R. Happy now?

          1. "That 'Vote green or stay home' crap is from the same playbook trotted out in 2016"

            But aren't you the one who keeps saying that the useful idiots who were stupid enough to vote for the Green Party in 2016 bear no responsibility for Trump's election?

             

            1. You’re the one who is stuck on Jill Stein and the Green Party- not me. 

              I’ve been consistent in pointing out that deliberate, malicious voter suppression is a much greater problem ( as in millions of votes lost , or 2% of all voters according to American Progress) than a few thousand disaffected greenies. 
               

               

              1. Dems have lost my vote. If they want it back ever they will need to have progressive candidate not corrupt right wing fascist. The dem party is too far right wing for me to support blindly. Hope corp dems lose so I have a chance in 2-6 years to vote for a real populist. But enjoy dems losing the house, senate and a fascist like trump winning in 2024. That's all that right wing dems like Bennet will deliver. But that's what the corp dem party of our state supports. They will be treated as such. Sad.

                 

          2. Biden just made trumps tax cuts for the rich permanent, passed trumps infrastrucre bill for the rich, and has trumps racist immigration policy. While ignoring trumps coup and attack on our democracy.

            Obama made Bush's tax cuts for the rich permanent and passed Regan's health care policy. While ingoing the Treason of WMD lies and an illegal war in Iraq.

            Clinton made Reagan's tax cuts for the rich permanent and helped republicans deregulate wall st. while ignoring the treason of Iran Contra

          3. Yea when I say stay home I mean not voting for senate. As I am old and remember voting in person for most of my life in Colorado. But I do love mail in voting as it helps stop republicans racist voter suppression.

        2. Dems won't fight for medicare for all, voting rights, a min wage, or unions.

          Dems won't fight against republicans stolen packed court or for a women's right to choose. Progressives do.

          Dems will fight for trumps tax cuts for the rich. Dems will fight for trumps estate tax cuts for the rich. Dems will fight to make sure all of republicans tax cuts and deregulation for the rich remain in place. Dems will fight for high pharma prices and monopoly control of our govt and lives.

          Just like republicans do. They are owned by the same fascist oligarchy.
          I just love how Bennet just gave oil oligarchs 40 billion and called it climate change policy. Or that trillion a year for a mercenary military.
          Or Bennet's past policy of voting with republicans to destroy dodd frank and the volker rule as he took bribes from citi group…. Enjoy voting for that. I will enjoy not voting for fascism pushed by republicans or democrats. 

          1. Ah, but Putin!  What a man.  Just close your eyes, Denny boy, and imagine being on your knees before him.  Maybe he’s not quite as manly as Trump, but Putin turns you on.

            What a jerk thou art.

            Denise Spencer

            Trump Influencer.

    1. 1. Please buy a dictionary and look up fascism. You clearly do not know its meaning.

      2. So I assume then you are supporting Ron Hanks for Senate, the guy who joined an insurrection against this nation? Yeah, he'll be there for your progressive agenda, I'm sure.devil

      1. Carter was the first dem I ever voted for. Bennet will be the first dem I will not be voting for. I did my part as a delegate and supporting Breslin, she lost as did the dem party. That was our only hope for real change. I will inform my fellow Coloradans of Bennet's right wing record until the elections. My guess is he will still win but republicans will take the house and senate and trump wins in 2024.

        1. Medicare X….
          You mean how bennet ran a presidential campaign against medicare for all using republican lies and talking points….. and your point…..

      1. You do understand biden ran on repealing the trump tax cuts on day one right…
        Dems were goin to repeal in them in BBB which will never pass and was never going to pass as dems knew when they passed trumps infrastructre bill for the rich and republicans asset recycling. Try to keep up. I like the congressionaldish.com as a policy source. 

        1. Not seeing any “ Denise Spencer” on the Colorado Assembly delegate list.  I still think your mission on this forum is to divide, divert, distract, and mostly to demoralize: “ Nothing matters. Dems are as bad as Republicans. Don’t bother voting.” Your message would be contradictory to your story about being a CDP Breslin delegate. I truly think that you are making it up as you go. Jury’s still out on whether you are a paid troll. 

          Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Synema, who are indeed “corporate Dems”, scuttled Build Back Better. Bennet, as much as he’s improved in style and delivery over the years, will never vote against the interests of the finance and banking industry. Neither will Hickenlooper. Both are reliable D votes on everything else.
           

          The role I choose is that of the progressive loyal opposition, working within the Democratic party I’m outspoken, but everyone knows I do the work. . It’s the most realistic way to keep small-d  democracy going, and to make incremental change. 
          Bernie Sanders, whom you say you support, did and is still doing the same. 

    2. Funny how the Democratic activists chose an established Senator over a person who has never won an election, didn’t have an indication of being able to raise money, and … oh by the way, didn’t bother to find a way to contact all of the delegates to the Assembly (even by mail or email). Unless someone picked up a flyer or went looking for her website, how would they know what she wanted before she began to speak?

      Even if Breslin had won at the assembly, I don’t see any indication she would have been able to pivot and run a primary campaign.

      Even if she won the primary and was the candidate in the November election, a neophyte versus Rep. Hanks would be a hard call for some.  In a world of a 50-50 Senate, you want to gamble?  LOSING the seat is a possibility — just ask Mark Udall or Cory Gardner.  

      Even if she won the general election, how would ANY of her policy priorities get through the Senate?  The existing Senate was unable ot keep the child tax credit in place — how would it have passed a M4A health insurance plan?  What “progressive policy for the people” do you think would happen with the change from Bennet to Breslin????

      Enjoy your progressive purity. 

      1. The Dem party and members fight against progressive candidates and for corp democrats. This is the outcome they fight for. If one voted for Biden over Bernie they are also to blame for democrats losing everything in 2022.

    3. The infrastructure bill sells off our roads to oligarchs to charge us tolls and calls billions for fossil fuels climate change. What fascism is. All dems have done is make the trump tax cuts for the rich permanent.

      Republicans pass tax cuts for the rich and send our jobs to china. Democrats do nothing to repeal the policy. One party is responsible, the other complicit. No Democrat or republican deserves re-election

       

  8. "Is this how Russia ends?", Interview with Masha Gessen

    I think this comparison of today to 1930s Germany is vey profound: "Extreme economic anxiety related not only to hyperinflation in Germany but more broadly to a changing world, a world in which it was impossible for people to imagine who they'll be and how they'll live some years from now, or where their children will be."

    Piketty's historical (long-term) insight that the growth of inequality is due to the fact that capitalists have so much power they are able to skim 5% MORE off the top than the productivity gains of the economy.

    The interview discusses not just Russian autocracy, but also autocratic tendencies in the US.

    There are dispiriting parallels between what has happened in America in recent years and what has been happening to Russia. I wonder what connections you would draw, if any, in terms of what laid the groundwork in the U.S. and in Russia for a more authoritarian turn.

    I spent much of my writing career thinking about World War II. I have this mental map of how the world was going bad in the ’30s and how the thing spread. I feel like I'm watching that pattern recur now. On the one hand, we're watching the war in Ukraine. At the same time, Viktor Orban gets reelected in what is probably largely an accurate reflection of what Hungarians want. Marine Le Pen makes gains in France. I feel like I'm watching the dynamic map again and that contagion spread.

    Erich Fromm very accurately describes preconditions for autocracy in Escape From Freedom. He wrote in the late 1930s and looked at extreme economic anxiety and mass displacement. Extreme economic anxiety related not only to hyperinflation in Germany but more broadly to a changing world, a world in which it was impossible for people to imagine who they'll be and how they'll live some years from now, or where their children will be. Those are conditions that are very much present in many parts of the world. There are kinds of societies and governments that try to address anxieties, and there are kinds that don't. We definitely have the kind that doesn't. I think that's a culture-wide failure that isn't concentrated on the right.

    Is the point you're making that, in a sense, the bad guys do address those kinds of anxieties whereas the good guys don't?

    Yes, that is the point I'm making. I think we see some attempts from the Biden administration to address those anxieties, but they're meek, unconvincing, and unsustainable.

    Also the political brilliance of Zelensky:

    I think you approach it on the level of community. Every so often, Biden gives a speech where he comes across as a caring elder statesman. But what he really should be doing is having weekly fireside chats. The most extraordinary political speaker we have seen over the last month and a half is Zelensky, right?

    He models political speech. It is not about policy, and it is not about military strategy. It's about people. No matter who he is addressing, he's addressing people directly. He's speaking directly to their experience. Whether he's addressing the Italian Parliament or the Knesset, he talks about the experience of the people in the room. When he's addressing Russians, he's addressing their experience, including their experience of watching him speak and then asking them for something. When he's addressing Ukrainian people, he's offering them care and understanding. He doesn't talk about it in terms of policy.

    1. I agree one million percent. Most people fear change & uncertainty. So when someone promises them stability and a reversion to "the good old days," they'll embrace that. And they love having "others" to blame for all this.

      The thing is, the only way to make things better is via change & uncertainty. So that needs to be sold to people as the route to a better future. And that requires painting a picture of what the future will be and how it will be wonderful for them and their children.

  9. I think the lack of clear goals by the Biden Administration in terms of Ukraine and our war against autocracy is a big problem.

    But it’s not just Ukraine. In terms of immigration we have the same problem:

    “This is the wrong way to do this and it will leave the administration unprepared for a surge at the border,” Cortez Masto said in a statement to POLITICO. “We should be working to fix our immigration system by investing in border security and treating immigrant families with dignity. Instead, the administration is acting without a detailed plan.

    I think the Biden Administration thinks competence & decency is sufficient. It’s not. They need to figure out where they want to go and how to get there.

    And if they don’t, Trump is going to sound awfully enticing to a lot of people because he’s brilliant at painting a picture of where he wants to take us.

    1. I'll fall for it … what immigration policy can present a vision that the party can rally around? 

      Keeping in mind that some possibilities are blocked by the Congressional impasse on DACA and the in-place Immigration and Naturalization Act; are constrained by the budget for Homeland Security that is still essentially a continuing resolution of the Trump budget; and the pending Supreme Court rulings coming soon which will set the ground for what is possible under Administration action alone.

    1. NC does have a senate race with three Republicans running: Pat McCrory (former governor), Ted Budd (current US rep), and Mark Walker (former US rep). McCrory is running as the least Trumpy under the strategy that Budd and Walker are close to Trump. If they split the MAGA vote evenly, McCrory might slip by. Trump endorsed Budd. Trump tried to talk Walker into running for the House again, but he wouldn't budge.

      Cherry Beasley, the Dem candidate loses to Budd or Walker but is running even or slightly ahead of McCrory. So, McCrory is the best Republican from the Dem perspective. Especially if McCrory just narrowly wins, the other two scream STOP THE STEAL, and the MAGAts sit out the election to punish McCrory (Think Georgia run-off last year).

      And then, of course, there is Madison "Capitol Hill Orgy Invitee" Cawthorn who also has Trump's endorsement but has pissed off a lot of NC Republicans.

      1. And McCrory is still in the doghouse for signing the "turn-away-the-gays" law that got the state a big fat boycott including losing that year's Final Four to Denver.

        1. McCrory has run three statewide races for governor and lost two of them. His winning the GOP primary would be Beasley's best chance of getting elected.

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