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March 02, 2012 05:26 PM UTC
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but you raise the issue of medicine having different uses which is extremely valid. So, I think we should be talking about medications and not “birth control pills”
We should be talking about jobs and national security. We should be talking about Syria and Iran.
We should be talking about a zillion other things, not aspirin or ulcer treatments, or any of the bajillion other effective medical treatments.
And while I deeply sympathize with the plight of women in danger of losing coverage for a medication they need for reasons other than birth control, I hope we aren’t going to start putting the use of hormonal birth control into two categories, moral and immoral, to be judged for all of us by religious social conservatives.
This entire controversy begs for the only sensible 21st century solution: Universal single payer health care coverage divorced from the need to have employers involved at all. That way medical decisions wouldn’t be any of our employers’ business nor would they be in a position to impose their personal religious beliefs on their employees. Also, nobody would have to take health care consequences into consideration when making career decisions, would not find themselves with no coverage upon losing a job or leaving a job by choice. Politicians wouldn’t be able to avoid “jobs and national security” to grandstand by politicizing health care choices.
It would be an economic bonanza as it would bring our health care costs down to the level of costs in every other modern industrialized country and, by removing the health care burden from American companies, would speed the trajectory we are already on in becoming more competitive with China as labor costs rise there. Choice could be maintained, as it is in most 21st century systems, by having private insurers provide options not available in the basic high quality public health care coverage system. Everybody wins.
In the meantime, since we are the only citizens of a modern industrialized nation on the planet to cling stubbornly to an out-dated, inefficient costly health care system that allows for profit companies to ration health care solely on the basis of the profit motive rather than by any fair or rational criteria, we need to fight back in every way we can to protect our ability to access the health care options we need.
We know exactly what Republican majorities in federal and state legislatures are passing and plan to pass. We know what Republican Governors and a Republican President will support and sign. The only Republican to oppose the Blunt amendment was the one who isn’t planning to run again. Otherwise it is more than likely that she would have gone along rather than risk the consequences.
Taking those simple facts into consideration, no woman or father of daughters, much less anyone who believes that the religious right should not be imposing their beliefs on health care choices, should vote for any Republican. There simply aren’t any willing to stand against their fringe on these issues.
Thanks, Awen, for this important diary.
If I implied this was a moral vs. immoral issue, I did not mean to.
I have used birth control medication for both of its stated purposes: to control the PCOS, but also to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
I consider it moral to bring wanted children into the world, so birth control satisfies my sense of morality in that respect.
I didn’t mean to imply that you were making a moral distinction. More of a general statement that I wouldn’t want us to ever feel pressured by the self righteous right to find acceptable “justifications” for pro-birth control arguments, not that I thought that was what you were doing here. Lots of people , male mostly, probably don’t know that the pill is also a hormonal treatment apart from its use for birth control. Thanks for explaining that.
As long as we allow Repugs to keep framing this as a medical issue or a religious issue or a moral issue, no matter what our response is, they’ll merely frame it some other way. This is none of those. It’s about power and control–just like their other obsessions. They’ve thrown that medical, religious and moral horseshit at gays, people of color and poor people, too.
The pill has freed women of their subservient role as childbearers, house servants and helpmates. That pisses off Repugs and other worshipers of patriarchal structure. As far as their panicky contra-contraception ravings go, the only valid rebuttal is, “Oh, shut the fuck up, you meddlesome, mendacious, moronic, Mesozoic assholes. It’s none of your fucking business what a woman does with her own body. A wise woman may well consult with her doctor or her partner, but that’s still none of your fucking business, assholes, so back off. Or else.”
in college that was diagnosed with severe endometriosis at age 23.
She was in horrible pain, doubled over with cramps to the point that she could not get out of bed and almost constant lower back pain. She was eventually put on an 8 month cycle of estrogen high birth control pills to prevent her from having a period for a series of months–kind of a pseudo-pregnancy.
Without this course of treatment, Julie would have been facing a hysterectomy, since her symptoms were so severe. She desperately wanted to be a mom and I’m so grateful that the treatment worked because she is now the mom of three awesome children, two boys and recently, a little girl.
did you not try leeches?
I’m sure if you looked you could have found a priest well versed in the middle ages treatment, exorcism.
And what about the possibility of letting go, letting God.?
Not one I’d guess that the typical social con would care about, though. They tend to believe women bring this stuff on themselves, somehow, someway. Blaming the victim is a cornerstone of their philosophy.
Still, it’s only going to help to talk about this, remind people that these medicines also save lives. Good diary.
Thank you, Awen.
And it’s why Issa denied Sandra Fluke the opportunity to testify before his stacked deck and kangaroo court of a committee.
It’s why Ms. Fluke was given the opportunity to testify before the Democratic Policy and Steering Committee by Rep. Pelosi.
And it’s why the republicans went after her through Limbaugh.
Absolutely, Pita.
call KOA and call advetisers. Give them hell. Clog their lines. As much as a I despise Mike Rosen and disagree with all the rightie talkers he and most of them have every right to be heard on our airwaves. There is, however, simply no excuse for allowing Rush to keep spewing out hate speech against women, not to mention he keeps repeating that the more sex you have the more you need to spend on birth control pills. He’s either that stupid or hates women so much he’ll say anything to attack them. Or thinks his fans who keep him rich do. That’s probably it.
It must have been difficult to post something so personal. Yet, it does further the discussion in a factual way. It is appreciated.
The reason I am is that sometimes a person can reveal their absolute ignorance without realizing it. I believe that Limbaugh’s rant…that is continuing right now…
about the more sex a woman has the more birth control pills she needs…. He is a middle age man, supposedly married four time and publicly heterosexual, but the more he repeats this absurd statement that the more sex, the more pills a woman needs…the more he is telling the world that he has no personal experience with fertile, heterosexual women.
Rant, Rush, Rant on.
So, fifty years ago, this woman went up to CU…naive about all sexual matters. She is in the UMC, back when dogs were allowed in. Okay, for the first time, she sees a pair of dogs mating and yells “Look, at the Siamese dogs.” No one could tell her what was so funny, because they could not stop laughing.
this is great Awen. Sometimes a personal perspective is far more powerful than anything else. Thanks.
I stand for every woman who wants birth control as a way of treating potentially life-threatening conditions.
I also stand for every woman who uses birth control as a way to prevent unwanted pregnancies. It’s our choice, our bodies.
To see the backlash, especially with the sponsors pulling their ads, on Rush Limbaugh has made me very happy. I hope Mittens and Mr. Frothy are paying attention.
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Its hard to comment on that.
but I’m glad that they’re revealing themselves to be the little old ladies that they are at heart.
how does having insurance cover contraceptive meds involve gov’t payment?
Is medicare covering contraception now that it didn’t before?
But such nuance escapes the troglodytes that have seized control of the GOP.