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February 28, 2012 11:04 PM UTC

Hyperbole or Holy Crap? Whither Romney in Michigan

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  • by: Colorado Pols

The national press is all aflutter amid a potential Mitt Romney loss in today’s Michigan GOP Presidential primary. Romney did well in Michigan in 2008, but he’s struggling to keep ahead of a surging Rick Santorum. From MSNBC:

Romney had been expected to easily win here until Santorum upset the former Massachusetts governor in a trio of nominating contests earlier this month. If momentum carries Santorum to victory on Tuesday in Michigan, it would put Romney’s campaign – long considered the favorite among Republicans seeking the nomination – on precarious political footing.

So what say you, Polsters? If Romney were to lose Michigan, what does it mean? Poll after the jump…

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26 thoughts on “Hyperbole or Holy Crap? Whither Romney in Michigan

  1. As most of you know, I support Mitt Romney. I recognize that Romney has had a tough primary, and that this primary has given the left ammunition they will try to use against Romney later.

    It’s still the case, though, that Romney is the only Republican candidate with the resources and depth of talent to win the presidency this fall. Democrats have made much of the political problems the Tea Party has caused the GOP, and I agree: the Tea Party has been more interested in ideological satisfaction than putting up a candidate who can win. In Colorado, this was demonstrated clearly in the 2010 U.S. Senate race.

    The primary voters who have weighed in so far are not the larger base of Republicans who will vote in the fall, and they’re not the independents that the election will hinge on. Independents are some of the most disaffected with Obama’s policies of any Americans, and they are interested in a pragmatic solution to Obama’s disastrous presidency. That’s Mitt Romney and Romney alone.

    I see that Pols readers still believe Romney will be the nominee, even if we go to the convention. But the second part, that Romney can’t beat Obama, is based on Romney’s performance in conservative primaries. With all voters, it will be a different picture.

    1. The only talent I’ve seen him exhibit is one for putting his foot in his mouth.

      And what do you mean by “disastrous” presidency? Plugging all those holes in the dyke is pretty much a success by every measure except partisan ones.

      1. deep-throat a pair of size 11s (?) is a notable talent (plus he recites lines from America the Beautiful, too).

        Santorum can only do push-ups, and having had 3 wives isn’t all that impressive to a Mormon . . .  

    2. He’s been campaigning continuously for a long, long time. He’s been the presumptive nominee, the frontrunner and the One so often that I can’t even count. (I tried.)

      Yet, he’s not closed the door yet, and won’t until California at the end of May.  June.  Make all the useless comparisons to Clinton/Obama you want  – neither was running in 04. Neither was running continuously in between. Neither was the presumptive nominee (until Texas).

      If I was a voting R, I’d asking which canaidate is most able to put the purple core in play – Florida, Ohio, PA.  TO a lesser degree WI, IN and NC.  Florida and PA are game changers in Nov.

      But for you and your guy now, it’s all California.  Can he seal the the OC deal?  I think he’s a can’t miss – but OC does not put FL or PA in play.  Much as they like to think they do.

      1. California will be a show of strength in a large market, as was Florida. These are the places where Romney’s organization will eclipse the other candidates’ shoe leather.

        And these are the states that prove who can win nationally.

        1. that did the trick in Florida. It was relentless negative advertising to destroy Gingrich after he whipped Romney in South Carolina. You’re right, that’s effective, and it’s unquestionably what we’ll see in the general. But to pretend that makes Romney a great candidate is delusional.

          1. is by outspending his opponents 10-1, isn’t that an admission that you’ve got a weak candidate?

            Nobody wants to go have a beer with Romney and listen to him talk about all his cars and houses and boats and whatever.

          2. Until I have new information, I think this is why Romney will win in the general election. Look at Michigan tonight, in a state where the automobile industry is everything Romney, who said that GM should die, won by 4%. That is going to be the story in November as well. It does not matter that he is a much worse candidate than Obama, he is going to be pushed over the finish line by big money.

      2. A few weeks ago, when Jon Stewart was his guest, they were talking about that. Letterman said that he wants someone who makes good decisions to be president, then cited R-money’s decision to put his dog on top of his car as evidence that R-money isn’t that kind of leader.

    3. “It’s still the case, though, that Romney is the only Republican candidate with the resources [agree] and depth of talent [strongly disagree] to win [the R nomination]….”  Romney is not going to beat Obama, he just isn’t, absent an unforseen harmful national or world event.  I am one of the independents of whom you speak, and there is no way I vote for Romney, Santorum, Gingrich or Paul.  Just no way.  Romney cannot think or talk on his feet, let alone be the chief executive of a world power; Santorum seems to me to be approaching the realm of the unstable in some of his comments; Gingrich is a deeply flawed human; and Paul is Paul.  I do not like all Obama has done.  He is not in my opinion an effective leader, at least domestically, on a number of counts.  But the man has the stones to pull the trigger to kill those the government and military know or think have harmed or will act to harm the US and its citizens and foreign policy means a lot to me.  And, the fact he does not pound his chest every time a target is killed says something for the man.

    4. Mitt R-money knows he’s a fuckup.

      At a press availability in Michigan on Tuesday morning, Mitt Romney admitted that his campaign has been wounded by some of his comments in recent days that had the unintended effect of highlighting his wealth.

      During a stop at his campaign headquarters in Livonia, Mich., a reporter asked Romney whether he realized that comments accentuating his wealth were hurting his campaign.

      “Yes. Next question,” Romney simply stated.

      Read the link for a nice list of the kinds of comments they mean.

  2. Presidential candidate Mitt Romney on his struggle to excite the GOP base:

    “We’ve seen throughout the campaign that if you’re willing to say really outrageous things that are accusatory and attacking President Obama that you’re going to jump up in the polls. You know, I’m not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. “

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/

  3. should include a “No fucking clue” option.

    It baffles me to think that out of all the Republicans in this country that Mitt “Richer Than You” Romney and Rick “Glenn Beck is My Co-Pilot” Santorum are the best they have to offer for presidential candidates.

    1. and saving their winners for 2016 – whoever they might be. (I’ve been out of it for a while and am honestly not sure who they think has the best shot – I recall Chris Christie being mentioned…)

      Mitt Rmoney is the Republican Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry all rolled up into one.

      1. Christie’s another foot-in-mouth candidate and Jeb Bush is a Bush (enough said).

        I’d say Marco Rubio and Mitch Daniels may be their best prospects for 2016.  

    2. An incumbent President, an improving economy, a 50+% approval rating, a deep and dedicated campaign organization, and close to a billion dollars in cash to spend – all the better GOP prospects know that Obama is pretty much unbeatable in 2012 and are holding out for 2016. Of course, then they may have to contend with Hillary!

      1. There was supposed to be a huge drop in support from the disillusioned Sirota left.

        The Tea Party was supposed to overturn conventional party politics.

        Republicans won big in 2010 and it was supposed to be a harbinger of bigger things in 2012.

        Sorry but I’m not buying that the clever Republican politicians decided to sit this one out.

  4. could even the odds, and this certainly doesn’t help Romney’s momentum going into that.  Also, today may push not Romney supporters of Gingrich into the Santorum camp.  The Santorum + Gingrich vote in Michigan for example, if it had gone only to Santorum, would have been a decisive Santorum win over Romney in MI instead of a close race.

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