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  by: Colorado Pols March 13, 2022 at 10:30 PM MDT

“Silence is foolish if we are wise, but wise if we are foolish.”

–Charles Caleb Colton

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  1. Voyageur says:
    March 14, 2022 at 7:36 AM MDT

    Hates it when everyone posts at once, Yoda does.

  2. Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS says:
    March 14, 2022 at 8:53 AM MDT

    This is how it can be done….

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/598082-house-democrats-call-on-biden-to-renew-climate-push

     

    And there’s another climate/environment issue stewing…..

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/climate/rivian-georgia-kemp-perdue.html

    Who knew? Brian Kemp is a tree hugger.

  3. DavidThi808 says:
    March 14, 2022 at 8:56 AM MDT

    Again I tend to be over optimistic. But the people who know this best and are reading through all the info say the Russian army seems to have hit its limit. They can still fire missiles and cause death and destruction. But they don't have fresh trained troops to advance and take territory.

    Hiring mercenaries, trying to buy munitions from China, numerous high ranking officers killed in combat including 3 generals – those are the signs of an army that is running on fumes.

    The Russian army is in the midst of their final push giving it everything they have left. And it's not advancing. This will wear out over the next week and then you'll see Ukraine advancing.

    I'm also guessing that after Zelenskyy speaks to Congress on Wednesday we'll be giving him the jets and our most advanced anti-aircraft and anti-missile technology. It may be at the Biden Administrations actions, it may be via legislation that can override a veto. But we'll be providing it.

    Meanwhile, when will the State Department require Tucker Carlson & Tulsi Gabbard to register as a Russian agent.

    • ParkHill says:
      March 14, 2022 at 9:05 AM MDT

      I hope the situation gets resolved as soon as possible, but I'm worried that it will still get worse before then.

      One thing I haven't seen is how the economic sanctions are impacting everyday Russians. I know they can run on fumes for a while, but surely lack of paychecks, and supply-chain bottlenecks should be shutting down entire factories or factory towns.

    • DavidThi808 says:
      March 14, 2022 at 9:06 AM MDT

      And I know many on here hate people saying positive things about Republicans but thank you Mitt Romney, Rob Portman, & Ben Sasse. They're out there leading in fighting the good fight.

    • DavidThi808 says:
      March 14, 2022 at 9:09 AM MDT

      Chinese stocks listed in Hong Kong had their worst day since the global financial crisis, as concerns over Beijing’s close relationship with Russia and renewed regulatory risks sparked panic selling.

      The Hang Seng China Enterprises Index closed down 7.2% on Monday, the biggest drop since November 2008. The Hang Sang Tech Index tumbled 11% in its worst decline since the gauge was launched in July 2020, wiping out $2.1 trillion in value since a year-earlier peak.

      …full article…

      • ParkHill says:
        March 14, 2022 at 9:34 AM MDT

        If nothing else, the war in Ukraine, and the sanctions in Russia, have provided an object  lesso to China. Economic integration leads to more financial opportunities than war.

        High oil prices will kill China's economy, which to a large extent is built on a pyramid of shaky loans.

    • Conserv. Head Banger says:
      March 14, 2022 at 9:59 AM MDT

      Article on Yahoo News this morning……The Kremlin has ordered Russian state media to feature Tucker Carlson and his comments whenever possible.

      • DavidThi808 says:
        March 14, 2022 at 10:26 AM MDT

        A giant part of Russia dropping out of WWI was that the conscripts in mass numbers turned around and walked home. They were not willing to continue fighting a war of conquest.

        So yeah, Russia could be facing a wholesale retreat. Not on command, but individual by individual. And that would be the end of Putin as it would not just be a military defeat, but his army will have disintegrated.

        • Voyageur says:
          March 14, 2022 at 10:47 AM MDT

          In WwII nkvd battalions backed up regular troops, machine gunning anyone who retreated without orders.  Plus, they punished the dead men's families.  Old nkvd-kgb man Putin knows this history well.

          • Meiner49er says:
            March 14, 2022 at 11:04 AM MDT

            True, this happened on occasion, but historians have shown this was hardly standard practice. 

            • Voyageur says:
              March 14, 2022 at 12:02 PM MDT

              You're dead wrong, Meiner.  Read Anthony Beever's second world war history, or his Stalingrad campaign.   NKVD troops killing Soviet soldiets were standard practice, as were punishment battalions being marched through minefields.  Stalin/Beria brutality was staggering.  I'm a WWII history nut and defy you to cite a modern historian who does not cite nkvd murder squads.  Those have only grown with the post 1989 opening of kgb/nkvd archives.

               

              • Conserv. Head Banger says:
                March 14, 2022 at 12:37 PM MDT

                I've seen a couple articles on Yahoo with interviews with captured Russian soldiers saying they can't go home as they will be killed.

                • kwtree says:
                  March 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM MDT

                  I saw some really moving interviews with Russian policemen who said that they didn’t even know what they were supposed to be doing in Ukraine.

                  They had been captured, or turned themselves in, were worried about their families, but felt they had to tell the truth about Russians in Ukraine.

                  And yes, CHB, it is a little unnerving when we agree with each other, but I’ll try to bear up. angel

                   

      • Meiner49er says:
        March 14, 2022 at 11:03 AM MDT

        Reads to me like FF is drinking his own Kool-Aid again. A new 1989 Spirit? Ha! More like Meersheimer's "Back to the Future." The 21st century is finally beginning, and it is not going to be an "American Century of Peace." Try to imagine what a destabilized Russia will do to the current world order. It's NOT pretty.

         

    • JohnInDenver says:
      March 14, 2022 at 1:41 PM MDT

      I think a few generals would be likely to show up and point out that Ukraine has been doing pretty well with what they have, that giving advanced tech would be provocative and encourage escalation, and advanced tech would require training, so it would take a relatively long time to have an impact. 

      A counter proposal …. send Ukraine as many anti-armor weapons as we have or can make, give them effective counter-fire weapons to attack the stand-off artillery and short-range missiles, get them tactical and intelligence drones.  Encourage other NATO countries and others who announced their opposition to Moscow's moves to do the same.  Provide them with real-time intelligence — especially of resupply and locations of the new mercenaries' training.  Give them the benefit of any tactical research done on Russian weapons.  Enhance any cyber-warfare or propaganda efforts trying to punch into Russian territory.

       

  4. davebarnes says:
    March 14, 2022 at 12:01 PM MDT

    A video featuring “The Performance Artist known as Qbert”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4GxbdEmpPI

  5. Promo Code: says:
    March 14, 2022 at 2:02 PM MDT

    Twenty first century holocaust brought to Europe by spineless U.S. government. Shame on me for voting for Joe Biden.

  6. DavidThi808 says:
    March 14, 2022 at 2:09 PM MDT

    This is super interesting, but not surprising. 

    Madison Cawthorn called into the Charlie Kirk show during the January 6th attack and said he used his wheelchair to transport “multiple weapons” ahead of the Capitol riot and armed those around him.

    • JohnInDenver says:
      March 14, 2022 at 8:09 PM MDT

      Gee … almost seems like that would be breaking rules of the House and the laws of the District of Columbia, plus abetting offenders breaking the federal laws about carrying weapons that resulted in a fair number of felony charges.

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