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November 02, 2021 06:48 AM UTC

Election Day 2021 Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.”

–Theodore Roosevelt


61 thoughts on “Election Day 2021 Open Thread

    1. I used to register and vote R.  I helped Reagan win the Illinois primary in 1980. Bob Dole knew me by name. 


      I know your tricks. Have a good election day, loser. 

      1. I had the opportunity to meet Dole in a small DC reception setting after his presidential run. He was an absolute delight, had a great sense of humor. His old confidante on ag policy from K-State, Dr Barry Flinchbaugh (RIP), had some rip-roaring stories about Bob from the campaign trails over the years. 

      1. Fantastic article BPG.  Thanks for sharing. We had a 125% debt:GDP post WWII and a top marginal tax rate of 90% and still went on to create the most robust economy ever known and an American middle class that was the envy of the world. 

        1. agree- thanks BPG.

          The economists who won a Nobel prize or are renowned in the area of growth will tell you that aligns with the models.

          The debt/GDP > 1 is only a real problem when the debt is not used for anything productive.  The data is not definitive if the debt is used only  to narrow an income disparity. At extreme disparity, it helps improve growth – "pays for itself" in lay terms. (In a way that tax reductions almost never does if the net tax burden is less than 50-60%.)

          The nation felt unified. "Look for the union label" was still widely acceptable. Practically all retail workers were union, so as retail recovered and grew workers recovered too.  Health care was not as near accessible, but it was mostly public. (After 1965 was when hospitals started to get privatized and a real profit motive got going. And did not really start to drag the GDP growth until the 80's and all the deregulation fraud.)



  1. Secretary of State's daily update of ballots in by 11:30 pm, October 31:

    • ………………votes……% of votes… % of active registrations
    • 2021 UAF 261,171 (34.56%)  – 43.51%
    • 2021 DEM 238,267 (31.53%) – 28.95%
    • 2021 REP 249,009 (32.95%) – 25.7%
    • 2021 LBR…. 4,798 (0.63%) – 1.11%

    Looks as if the UnAFfiliated and DEMocratic voters are going to follow the historical trends and be less enthusiastic about this off-year election. By contrast, REPublicans are over-represented by 7%.

  2. Well it’s been illustrative that nothing has changed with the PoleCats. The same 16 people who hate America, hate Fox, hate your neighbor. Except for the contributions from, Gillian, Gulag, Gandorf or what ever he/she identifies as today. Now that was an experience into the tortured physic of modern day Democrats.

    Happy Election Day. May all your dreams come true.

    Until the next time I have a few hours to waste in my life.


    1. Why is it that if we’re not reactionary right-wing shills we “hate America”? We like Lincoln’s side in the Civil War, not the joy of celebrating “southern heritage”. We like the plaque that adorns the Statue of Liberty – give us your tired, you poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. We like the original motto on our money – “e pluribus unum”: out of many, one. We like “one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all” – as it was written and spoken before fear of “communism” caused reactionaries to rewrite it. We like George Washington’s view that mankind moves ever toward liberal thought and that equal treatment for all will spread as it does.

      That is the backbone of America. You want to ascribe hate and fear to us because that is what you are fed daily; we would hope for you to exit that stained realm some day.

      1. Thanks to PR for saying we don't hate America on our behalf. I'm too tired from being out trying to expand voter participation because I love America to write anything as good today.


      2. “The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”
        ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

        1. I thought I'd stick with universally American icons, if not the comfortable way th RRRs like to think of them. FDR is the original Satan according to many right-wingers. Though that is yet another great American Dream quote.

    2. You ran out of having anything new or interesting to say years ago. You’re now a waste of hours here for everyone . . .

      . . . but only because you spend 99.7% of your time here repeating the same two milliseconds of shallow insight . . .

      . . . better for everyone if you’d just choke on your intolerant cheese in silence by yourself (or with your tube BFFs Carlson and Hannity).


    3. Even knowing that PP here is a political antagonist, he is right on this (assuming he meant tortured "psyche").  This IS a very repulsive forum, despite its excellent aggregation of news stories.  

      It doesn't look like playful banter when the same folks who were asking 9 years ago, like V did, what the board could do in anticipation of growth are today slinging homophobic, sexist, and baseless accusations to derail a new topic of discussion. 

      What will it look like 9 years from now? Largely the same, but only the "power users" who survive the pandemic. When my dog started to get stiff and had trouble with stairs, I knew it would be good for him, and me, and another pupper if I adopted the second soon enough he could pass on his better traits.  The old boy crossed the bridge last year and many of the mannerisms and ways of communicating he passed on to his new sister have made her sharp as a tack, and super polite for her age.

      It would have been a lot harder to have to start over with a scared pupper who didn't have a kind, big floof to show her how to play fight, but communicate when she isn't having fun anymore, and how to read other dogs at the playground to tell what's what.

      I've run the metaphor deeper into the ground than my old boy's resting spot, but the point stands.  This isn't a dog park and you aren't leading by good example. This forum is more of a basement dog fighting ring.

      Happy voting day!

      1. 1. I recommend a different metaphor. It is bad form to discuss your opponent in the context of dog behavior. It is seldom appreciated. You are right…This isn’t a dog park.

        2. You continue to visit a very repulsive political site, though that must be at great personal sacrifice. Or is an expression of masochism? If not, you must be getting paid or you are a crazy-eyed zealot.

        3. Thank you for the continued insults. It is sort of an assurance  that you will not be taken seriously.



        1. What insults? And why the hostility? Dio should back me up, if only I were so lucky to be compared to such loyalty and goodness incarnate.  Dogs are awesome, and if you don’t like the metaphor, that’s on you.

          What I wrote was sincere.  Weird that this opportunity for y’all to exercise a little restraint and you and kwtree jump to bullying antics again.

          No need for name calling, Duke.  All I ask is for a little decorum, but I guess this is simply a spot for schoolyard antics. Really? Accusing me of being a shill for wanting to participate equally?

  3. November 2, 1920 – In the United States, KDKA of Pittsburgh starts broadcasting as the first commercial radio station. The first broadcast is the result of the 1920 United States presidential election.

  4. I could use a bit of help, if someone can help me, to find more information about a decision made by SCOTUS on Friday. I have been unable to find it, though I have searched diligently…” damn you, ignorance!”

    It regards the relationship between the federal government and states and the Feds ability to administer the rules of law. Perhaps I really misunderstood, but what caught my eye was a comment by the stories’ author that this was a pet project of Steve Bannon, which can never be a good thing.

    Anyone have any idea what I am talking about?

      1. Nope…while a fascinating story, not what I am after.

        This involves a decades old doctrine that the Trumpers are trying to resurrect. I just can't remember.

        BTW…I will say I was surprised to find the amazing amount of information at Ballotpedia. 

    1. Duke, have you checked the orders issued on Friday at the SCOTUS website?  The only thing I saw posted there from 10/29 were two opinions relating to denial of injunctive relief in Does v. Mills, Case No. 21A90.  and 

      yesterday's orders list is here

      1. Thanks for the information, everyone. I followed all the links but nothing rang a bell. Bear in mind, it was early and I am old. NFEN

        I do distinctly recall the word "doctrine" thrown in, with a change in the doctrine the goal of Trumps' lawyers. I also recall the author considered this a sort of BFD to Steve Bannon, noted demon spawn from the basement of Hell. ( That last comment is personal…I don't really know where he was born…or really, even if he was born.)


        1. Duke .. searching for media coverage of the Supreme Court to find something of interest to Steve Bannon, I found this Esquire article: "The Supreme Court May Execute Steve Bannon's Plan to Destroy the Administrative State"

          It begins:

          on Friday, when very few people were watching, the Court took another action that is equally terrifying. Remember when Steve Bannon was yammering about destroying “the administrative state”? Members of the Supreme Court do. From the New York Times:

          The Supreme Court agreed on Friday to hear appeals from Republican-led states and coal companies asking it to limit the Environmental Protection Agency’s power to regulate carbon emissions under the Clean Air Act. “This is the equivalent of an earthquake around the country for those who care deeply about the climate issue,” said Richard J. Lazarus, a law professor at Harvard.

            1. Great catch.

              I had no idea what you were asking about, Duke.

              My Maricopa county circle includes several lawyers who were no help. But this and the water impending reductions are a big deal.


    2. Happy Election Day, Duke.

      Is there any chance you might be thinking of the Electoral Count Act? The House January 6 Committee have been discussing addressing that since Trump's henchmen are snubbing the investigation. Bob Costa was discussing it on Fresh Air last week, but it's not a SCOTUS related-ruling.

    3. Here you go, Duke. The Court didn't actually decide anything, but it agreed to hear appeals in four cases in which the federal EPA's authority to regulate carbon emissions under the Clean Air Act is in dispute.

      You can find information on all four cases, along with links to the lower court opinions being appealed, at SCOTUSblog. That's still a fine source for Supreme Court news and analysis, although it isn't anywhere near as well staffed as it once was.

      You can also follow the goings-on in all four cases by typing the case numbers into the docket search feature of the Supreme Court's website and checking our the dockets for each case.


  5. New York is voting on the "Right to Clean Air, Clean Water and Healthful Environment". This would allow you to sue polluters.

    You would think we already have this right. There are exceptions such as sewer plants that are not required to completely clean their effluent before dumping it into streams.

    The right to Clean Air, Water and a Healthy environment would have problems in Colorado, where pollution mining and oil & gas production has lax enforcement. Not to mention agricultural methods that allow animal waste and fertilizer to run into the water.

  6. What’s changed in a year? 

    Active Registrations….DEM…….LIB………REP……….UAF….Active Total

    11/01/21 ………….1,125,285…43,181…998,848…1,691,182……3,887,073

    % of reg……………..28.95%….1.11%….25.70%……43.51%………100.00%

    month’s change……..1,501……….84…..2,054……12,890……………9,665

    6 month change…… -1,635……. 355……5,975…… 82,139……… 75,932

    Since 11/1/2020……. -4,448….. 1,378… -29,391….. 149,983……. 119,837

    1. It’s important to remember that the 43.5% of Unaffiliateds:

       – 10 pts true UNFs, mostly who don’t vote
       – 20 pts REP sympathisers who always vote REP.
       – 20 pts DEM sympathisers who always vote DEM.

      Party loyalty and nationalization of the Party brands pretty much dominates anything else. The Democratic Party suffers from poor brand strategy and ineffective marketing. The Republican Party benefits from extremist news sources and heavy investment from billionaire oil executives.

      One  gleam of hope is that educated voters are moving to the Dems. Which show how ridiculous PP’s comments are.

      The other gleam of hope is that young people tend Democrat. Old, White people tend to vote Republican, which is exactly the demographic dying off from Covid and, well, old age. Colorado will remain solid Democrat due to in-migration of educated younger voters, although this growth is concentrated in Urban and Suburban areas.

      1. Also, voting registration numbers are a lagging indicator. Republican voters get pissed off that the Party has been taken over by the Trump and Qanon faction, but that doesn't mean that they immediately run out and change their affiliation.

        See for example some of our friends, here.

  7. Not bad thus far. All three of those state questions are getting the ass kicking they so richly deserve. In my little corner of the world, the good guys are looking like winners in the mayoral and city council races. Looks like we're going to get ranked choice voting in future mayor and council elections. The good guys are also winning he Boulder Valley School District races.

  8. The Jeffco Kids Slate is winning the school board race so far. 

    In Douglas County, the conservative slate of school board candidates is winning. Sucks for you, DougCo.

    In Denver, the union-backed candidates are leading. Cheers!

    In Aurora, two of Coffman’s cronies ( Sundberg and Zvonek) have comfortable leads in their City Council races. Sorry, Aurora.

    In Lakewood, all the candidates that Ed Perlmutter endorsed are leading in their City Council races. Ed declined to endorse the candidate for Lakewood Ward 4, Christopher Arlen.
    That lack, plus a massive smear campaign by the partisan rag the Lakewood Watchdog, has given the victory to Ed’s biking buddy and COVID misinformation
    spreader, political gadfly Rich Olver. We can hope that the early returns will turn around, but….
    Sorry, Ward 4. Just another “moderate” white male for you. 



    1. Mesa County School District 51 Director – District D:

      Nick Allen, 17,675
      Willie Jones, 17,618

      edit: And two hours later the bouncer has taken the lead 🙁

  9. Here we go again.

    In 1992, we elected a centrist Democrat who promptly embraced a single-payer health care system. After being bombarded with the Harry and Louise commercials in 1994, we got 12 years of Newt Gingrich, Denny Hastert, Bob Dole and Trent Lott.

    In 2008, Obama ran as a non-ideologue bringing us hope and change. We got the ACA which begot us the Tea Party and eight years of John Boner, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

    In 2020, Biden ran on competency and compassion which made for a nice contrast with the grifter pushing UV lightbulbs and bleach as a cure for the virus. In 2021, we were told we needed a large, transformational human infrastructure bill and come hell or high water, we're going to enact it.

    If NJ and VA are a sign of the future, 2022 is gonna be bad.

    Sadly, the dogs aren't eating the dog food we are offering. 


    1. The House midterms are going to suck.

      The Senate (and the federal judiciary) and the governors and state houses are where gains will be made and lost.

      AZ – Senator Kelly must be re-elected. It is looking good so far. Not one R of the eight or nine announced or rumored in the primary have any name rec.

      GA – Senator Warnock appears to have a tougher hill to slog. (Of course, he lives in Georgia.)  If AZ keeps going like it is, I plan to move to GA in the spring and volunteer.

      1. Positive movement on the BBB bill over the past two days could reverse this. Yesterday we got Medicare drug pricing back, and today it sounds like a reduced 4-week paid leave was added back in.

        Warnock knows his chances ride on progressive results from BBB.

        And we'll have Supreme Court rulings on abortion to use as a lens. Even if the Court leaves Roe and Casey intact, we get a boost – or, rather, R voters will be demoralized by the ruling with their clear majority betraying them. A bad ruling for abortion should be the wake-up call too many have been snoozing.

      2. Kelly probably could still win this, especially if some nut job is his opponent.

        I'm afraid Warnock will have a much tougher time. The MAGA-voters will vote for him even if they have in video beating the crap out of his ex-wife.

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