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August 16, 2021 06:39 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is his twin brother.”

–Khalil Gibran

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15 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. There will be little the GQP will want to talk about except Afghanistan. Military intelligence suggested the Afghan army would put up SOME resistance and buy a little time. Didn't happen.

    I believe, when push comes to shove, Afghani people value their Muslim faith more than their national identity. Democracy isn't that important to poor, uninvolved people. 

    This is NOT Joe Bidens' fault. I have many issues with 46, but this isn't one of them.

    1. And before the 7th century? Islam is just the (in) convenient excuse for 1400 years.

      Afghanistan is not so much a failed nation. It is more like … a place where there never was a nation.

      1. That is kinda my point.

        Has there ever been a strong, native,  central govt. in the place we call Afghanistan? Has the "Afghani" label ever represented a people who have governed themselves?

        My Cat tells me the Polish people have seldom if ever ruled themselves. The Taliban will moderate their savagery or the will never peacefully rule the country. They will wind up in a state of perpetual civil war.

        1. Actually, Duke, there was a powerful kingdom of Poland for centuries.  It’s current degredation is a sad thing.

          The Kingdom of Poland was founded in 1025 and lasted almost 8 centuries.

        2. There was the monarchy in Afghanistan that provided the strongest sense of national unity- and that was a stretch.  An opportunity to use that monarchy as a building block for a national government was wasted, but whether it would have provided a bridge to a stronger Afghan national identity is questionable.

          The Afghan Army was supposed to be the cornerstone of a new national identity and the utter failure of the US military to build an effective one (this piece by Mike Jason highlights many of the reasons why) is the biggest contributor to where Afghanistan is today.

          I'm really interested to see if the Taliban can hold the north of the country.  That was never their stronghold, the cultural differences are vast, and it's only a matter of time before new warlords up there bolstered outside funding arise to disrupt the Taliban's negotiated power sharing. 

    2. Maybe just for once, in addition to the usual post mortem hand wringing and finger pointing and wailing and gnashing of teeth, we (America) might also spend some thought and effort to consider some of the possible ways in which we might now move forward constructively with this new government in Afghanistan??? 
       

      (. . . I really do hope you’re all laughing your asses off reading that, even just half as much as I was writing it . . .)

  2. Media full of the awfuls:  Afghanistan, Jill Biden's boot, COVID & its Delta variant, Economic "Consumer Confidence Slips," Fires in Forests, Graham and his nonapology , Haiti's earthquake, Inflation,  …. I suspect most of us can fill in the rest of the alphabet …

    So, let me add two bits of countervailing cheeriness:

     * Food stamp benefits to increase by more than 25% in October.  AP Story is here.

     * the second monthly child tax credit payment has begun to be disbursed.  AP story is here.

     

  3. Mesa County escalation just ramped up significantly.  Sec. of State Griswold sent out a press release this afternoon with newest developments. See it at https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/newsRoom/pressReleases/2021/PR20210816MesaCounty.html

    The Colorado Department of State has been alerted to and confirmed the release of two hard drive images from Mesa County election servers by election conspiracy theorists. While the investigation is ongoing, it appears these hard drive images contain copies of the election management software that runs voting system equipment in Mesa County….

    New information acquired during the Department of State’s investigation reveals that the secure room where this election equipment is stored was accessed on the evening of Sunday May 23, 2021, outside of normal work hours, by the Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters; Gerald Wood, the unauthorized individual who attended the Mesa County trusted build; and another Mesa County Clerk and Recorder employee.

    Under the authority outlined in the Colorado Election Code, with respect to the Secretary’s role as the Chief Election Officer for the State of Colorado and her duty to supervise the conduct of elections, the Secretary of State Jena Griswold is now determining who to appoint to supervise Mesa County Elections.

    Anyone have a sane, competent, and security-minded Mesa County Republican to recommend to the Secretary of State?

    1. Tim Foster may be the only one quickly coming to mind. Russ George would be even better, but unfortunately doesn't live in Mesa County.

    2. Bobbie Gross, who lost to Tina Peters in the GOP primary of 2018. She (Gross) worked for a number of years under competent Republican County clerks. She lost because Tina is a trumpie. She has already filed for the clerk's job for next year's election.

       

      1. I sorta doubt Sec. Griswold would appoint someone who plans to be running as a candidate to be the election officer who oversees the election.  That could well be a step (or five) too far in pushing in the partisan contest.

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