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August 02, 2021 06:48 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“The greatest enemy of progress is the illusion of knowledge.”

–John Young


23 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. Interesting interview on Democrats and the Urban/Rural split: J.D. Scholten is the executive director of and an overachieving but unsuccessful candidate for US Rep from Iowa-04, the NW Iowa district of Steve King.

    This might be the key to turning rural America blue again and defeating Trumpist disinformation

    In 2008, Carroll County voted for Obama, and then in 2020, it voted 70% for Trump. It’s not a county that a lot of people move in and out of. So what happened over those 12 years?

    What has happened is that there’s no Democratic message there. The state representative, the state senator, the governor, the member of Congress, and both US senators are Republicans. And then the other difference between 2008 and 2020 is the rise of misinformation and disinformation on social media….

    We also wanted to test out a generic candidate that we think would do really well in rural America. We polled that generic candidate against someone who’s from the coast, an elite who wants to cut taxes for his rich friends. That generic rural candidate won by 35%. But when we identified that rural candidate as a Democrat, they lost by 1%.

    The lesson here is that the Democratic brand is the biggest issue.

    1. The lesson here is that the Democratic brand is the biggest issue.

      Yep. The Democratic Party has been really poor at branding – both pro-Dem and anti-GOP. They are running from the Democratic label, almost as if they are afraid of being Democrats.

    2. J.D. is doing some great work – with a mountain to climb.  He’s right, years of not responding to the messaging from the right – weekly ‘editorials’ in local papers (ala Mark Hillman, Greg Brophy) and a daily tsunami of bulls*** on local radio stations largely controlled by Salem – have tainted the brand.  The dynamic is being exasperated from the reality that in so many cases the rural vote doesn’t even matter when it comes to statewide issues. We’re becoming a permanent minority more than happy to burrow into our foxholes and pretend we’re independent in an increasingly interdependent world. 

      What is disconcerting from a federal perspective is the projection that 70% of America will live in 15 states by 2040.  We’re on the slippery slope to becoming something we just spent trillions trying to end. 


  2. Music of the Day: "Summon the Heros"

    A 1996 recording by John Williams & the Boston Pops Orchestra celebrating the centennial of the Olympic Games. It has some of his original fanfares and other compositions for the Games that are still heard today. Also included are other Olympic related items from Vangelis ("Chariots of Fire," of course), Josef Suk, Dimitri Shostakovich, and others. 

      1. "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." ⁠

        ~ Susan B. Anthony.

  3. When are insurance rates going to go up for the unvaccinated?  If there was an equivalency in the auto world I wouldn’t be able to afford my premiums.  The average cost of a hospital stay is $51k – $78k (based on age).  

    The vaccine?  FREE

    The COVIDiots are freeloaders in our health care system. 


    1. There is that question cigarette smokers on health insurance application so you are right in raising the point of a COVIDiocy Surcharge.

      But most those idiots don't carry insurance anyway. It's was a government mandate so they threat that the same way they treat masks.

      When they get sick, they show up at the hospital and indeed are freeloaders.

    2. Congress will have to amend the Affordable Care Act to allow insurers to charge the unvaccinated because, for health insurance policies subject to ACA (which is most policies), the only allowable rating criteria are age and tobacco use.

      1. Thx OTD. 

        A friend posted this on social media tonight. It was a public post but I’ll leave the name private.  

        In an effort to maybe help those unvaccinated put things in perspective, here is another way to look at how they directly and indirectly effect the health of others. 

        I’ve been fighting a summer cold passed on to me from my 9 month old who we drop off in a petri-dish we call “day care.” He had an ear infection that we treated and is now healthy and happy.

        Yesterday I was ordered by Urgent Care to go to the ER for a CT Scan because I was coughing up blood. That scan was ordered at 2 p.m. in the afternoon. 

        Being fully vaccinated and having a negative Covid-19 test two days prior I was not worried about the variant. Around midnight, 10 hours after the scan was ordered, my blood oxygen level fell 20% from normal levels and I was required to be hooked up oxygen. 

        It wasn’t until 2 a.m. that a CT Scan was available for me. 

        Why? Because of the surge of unvaccinated people are now bombarding our ER’S and hospitals and putting covid vaccinated people’s health in jeopardy. 

        I was vaccinated back in Feb. but had to wait 12 hrs to be treated because people who could care less about being vaccinated now have contracted the variant and have priority to lung scans.

        I’m recovering and non-communicable from what is called “Parainfluenza 3.” 

        Covid can still kill the vaccinated, not because of contracting it, but because of the heartless decision the non-vaccinated made and are now being given treatment ahead of vaccinated people.

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