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July 21, 2021 06:49 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“What we call rational grounds for our beliefs are often extremely irrational attempts to justify our instincts.”

–Thomas Huxley

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44 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

  1. I anticipate a very ugly August. The traitorous activity of the Republicans is blowing up on them more and more with each passing day. 

    I predict the next few weeks will see a savage dismemberment of the GOP body politic. They are about to start eating each other with increasing desperation.

  2. It is a good morning. Yesterday, a local group in my city (Westminster) ostensibly enraged by water rates tried to recall a city council member in an off-year recall election that cost the city (us taxpayers) 250 grand. The only apparent reason for this is because the council member had a Latin name. He wasn’t on the council when rates were raised, and voted not to raise the rates when it came up when he was on the council. It was Republican Trumpy bullshit, and I’m delighted to say my city showed them the door. They’ll be back in November, but so will we.

    1. That's great news! Looks like it was a blowout by contemporary standards (62%-38% against the recall). The half-a-large per hour proponents were spending on Scott Gessler could have been better spend elsewhere, eh? Pretty much anywhere else.

      Good luck in November. One of those GQP council candidates, the one who served four years in that capacity last decade, is a real piece of work, as they say. Back in the day, the clown in question used to haunt school board meetings yammering about how teachers have a "duty" to report any student with a "Spanish surname" to federal immigration authorities.

        1. That's quick work on the Court's part! The stump-jumping wingnut filed suit on 6/9 and the judge canned it on 7/19. Here's hoping the court orders the stump-jumper to pay the attorney fees and costs incurred in getting the case tossed.

        1. I’ve always liked  “She /he  has tits and balls” as a compliment to strength, Duke. ” Which, if carried to its logical conclusion, would make our two-spirited Trans siblings our strongest warriors of all. 
           

          Or, we could use the non-sexist  “spine of steel” instead. 

          1. “Spine of steel” is classic vetebrateism and wholly unacceptable to progressive thinkers, a growing number whom self-identify as clams and oysters. Down with speciesism!

          2. What is “logical” about believing or suggesting that positive (or negative) human character attributes reside in, depend on, or are proportional to the size of, certain specific body parts?? . . . 

            (. . . or, am I just being too much of a dick here about this?)

        1.  Yep, he did. “If I can’t stack the deck, I won’t play!” he pouted. Fine by me. Cheney will do a good job of representing the Republicans on the committee. It’s not as if she has anything personal against any of the people who’ll be in the hot seat. devil

      1. I have to believe that Pelosi told McCarthy ahead of time that if he picked Banks or Jordan (or Taylor Green, Boebert, Gaetz, Gohmert, etc.), she would veto them. McCarthy knew this was coming, and did it anyway to appease the Orange One. He will express his outrage, scream partisanship, and pick someone else. 

        1. AP coverage in the Washington Post

          House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy says the GOP won’t participate in a House investigation of the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol if Democrats won’t accept the members he appointed.

           

          1. I was wrong again, in record time. In my defense, I often underestimate the stupidity of McCarthy and his fealty to the one term, twice impeached, troll.

            As a mentioned before, there should be empty chairs in the room, and the absent republicans should be called on, occasionally, for questions. 

  3. Hi all;

    Remember the stories about how people in Congress do much better on their investments than everyone else?

    In those stories I remember that they had a defense that they used public knowledge, but acted on it sooner. Is there any details around that? Specifically what they claimed and did that defense hold up?

    thanks – dave

    1. There have been a variety of studies trying to pin down broad trends, beyond individual or small group enforcement actions.  I went hunting for one that was a basis for a debate case several years ago, and couldn't find it.  One the search DID turn up was Harvard Business Review: The Growing Conflict-of-Interest Problem in the U.S. Congress , published in 2017.   There's a paywall, but I think everybody gets a free article …

      Sure, members of Congress are profiting from their positions — with nearly one in eight stock trades by congresspersons intersecting with legislation — but does that necessarily mean they are profiting at the expense of their constituents and society?

      We think the answer is a clear yes.

       

      1. I'm more interested in what do they know that helps them decide which stocks. And is it truly confidential info, or are they just more plugged in to understand public info.

        For example, there were people saying that COVID was going to be bad in early February. Few paid attention. But a few Congresspeople bought stocks based on that.

        That wasn't privileged info, that was understanding the likely ramifications of that public info.

        And another issue, plenty in Congress bought stocks that would jump in Obamacare passed shortly before the vote. But I think all that did were already a clear vote in favor of it. And all of us knew that it was a gamble – would they get it passed.

        There's surely some of this that's illegal (confidential knowledge or their vote is key). But how they make the decisions with public info, that's much larger I think.

        1. They get better, more expert as opposed to speculative, information and they get it sooner.  They have much larger networks of information coming from other early-informed colleagues who attend hearings. Plus, they generally have much better resources (net worth and available disposable dollars) to act and capitalize on any or all of that information.

          For example, I believe those congressional covid warnings were from hearings that occurred in mid-January; not February, and well before the public began being informed of any significant possible concerns?

          Many regular folks hear of coronavirus pandemic and start considering investing in rolls of toilet paper and canned soup, not buying stock in Astro Zeneca or Johnson & Johnson . . .

          1. Yeah, that’s what I think it largely is. Public info, but no one else was hearing it and at the same time the Congresspeople were being told this is important.

            Which brings up an interesting question. What if someone listened to all the public testimony, discussions, etc. in the subcommittee meetings. Would that give that person the same advantage?

            ps – My wife bought Zoom shares when the discussion started saying we might have to go remote.

  4. I told my wife this morning that I think things are going along quite well. The Republicans are on the road to showing that when it comes time to vote, they won't deliver 10 votes for hard infrastructure. That delay gives Dems very good ammunition for the 2022 election and gives Manchin proof that bi-partisanship is impossible with the filibuster.

    Then when they pull this shit around the debt limit, that could well give Manchin & Sinema a situation where they'll remove the filibuster. And if you remove it for one more thing, then additional exceptions are a lot easier lift.

      1. Hmm….

        I do not know that I agree to call it cognitive dissonance, though I do believe it is a fine demonstration of Dunning Kruger. Also Lucy Van Pelt kick-the-ball-Charlie-Brownism.

        For years as the Republican party abandoned me I heard all about how next time they would be reasonable, or more reasonable; how next time the obstructionist Democrats would finally realize that the Republicans played them; how deep down everyone believes in Democracy and American values.

        Hogwash.
        Many elected officials believe only in getting reelected. Some are ideologically blinded to anything else. Very few believe in the America that most of us say we want.

    1. The Dems will need all the firepower they can get next year since the far right wing will still be pushing communism, socialism, critical race theory, defund the police, and A.O.C.

  5. Support striking Frito Lay workers – boycott Pepsi and Frito Lay  products. The workers are  protesting forced overtime, which has driven many to exhaustion and even suicide, as well as poor pay and working conditions. Pepsi owns most Frito Lay brands. Here’s a helpful list of what not to buy:

    It will help your waistline, your wallet, and your community. So find something else to glug or crunch.

     

    1. Thanks, kw. I just put a F-L bag of chips back on the grocers shelf and the only other adjustments I need to make are a different brand of OJ and iced tea.  

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