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June 18, 2021 06:49 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“The truth needs so little rehearsal.”

–Barbara Kingsolver

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  1. Today is Juneteenth, a federal holiday in the United States commemorating June 19th and events in Galveston, TX regarding freed slaves in 1865.

  2. Intriguing story in Politico this morning — moderate Republicans in Mitt Romney's home town in Michigan are turning into moderate Democrats until such time as the GOP regains its senses.

    ‘As Long as the Party Embraces Trump, It’s Going to Have Trouble’

    The Republican collapse in Michigan’s Oakland County, once a stronghold, was a long time coming. Is losing these suburbs a warning light for Trumpism?

    1. Let's hope! It's not just there. There are Republicans switching and becoming "U's all over the country. I don't think they'll be back until the RNC repudiates Dear Leader.

      1. Nixon (COINTELPRO, Saturday NIght Massacre, and more) and Reagan (Iran Contra) did it for me.

        Oddly, for me the more I found out the further I moved away from them.

         

         

        1. oddly, Watergate was actually part of the reason I became a Republican.  It eroded my faith in government and prompted mw to seek more limits on government.  In the 70s, that meant bob Dole/Gerald Ford Republicanism.  Of course, they’d be Rinos now.

          I call the current crowd RINFIR: Republican in name, racist in reality.

            1. I started out as a Kennedy democrat.   Then, LBJ tried to kill me.  (Yossarian’s Law: The enemy is whoever is trying to kill me.) Nixon came in, de-escalated the war, and I never went to Vietnam, though I was a SP-5 in a job where my last three predecessors had been levied out to Nam.

              Realistic foreign policy, monumental gains in environmental policy, significant gains for women, Nixon had much to be proud off.  

              I never voted for him, opting, reluctantly, for Humphrey, then McGovern, the real peace candidate.  But I voted for Ford and Reagan twice.  Finally, Bill Clinton took the Democrats in from the cold and I voted for him twice.

               

  3. Yesterday's AP article about Colorado:

    Colorado governor signs big transportation bill into law

    EVERGREEN, Colo. (AP) — Democratic Gov. Jared Polis has signed into law an ambitious transportation funding bill that addresses Colorado’s long-neglected highway infrastructure while promoting programs to wean residents from their gas-guzzling vehicles and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    Polis signed the bill Thursday during a ceremony shaded by an Interstate 70 bridge — a structure that frequently chokes weekend traffic to the Rockies — in the unincorporated community of Floyd Hill, The Colorado Sun reports.

    Having driven that road numerous times and several years ago getting to the point of deciding WHEN to drive in order to be able to miss the worst of the traffic, I thought the choice of bill-signing locale was great.

  4. FFS. The journey to great purge has begun. 

    I think I’ll start refusing to take communion and beat them to the punch.  The irony is that if the former guy was Catholic they’d have no problem serving him the wafer. 

    Catholic bishops vote on controversial Communion document

    Catholic bishops on Friday voted to create guidelines on the meaning of Communion, a move that could be an early step toward limiting the serving of the Eucharist to President Biden and other politicians who support abortion rights.

     

    1. It is important to note that they are not proposing denying Biden a sacrament for being in favor of abortion, they are denying him for refusing to support laws to criminalize abortion (before fetal viability).  While, at the same time, not applying that same standard to Catholic politicians who actively campaign on increasing state-sponsored killing (death penalty), reducing social safety nets, and caging refugee children. The hypocrisy is not surprising and not Christian. 

      1. Maybe the President can go hang with the Episcopalians. They won’t deny him.  And isn’t there an Episcopal church (famously) right across the street from the White House?    

    2. Bureaucracy is a wonderful thing.  My reading is there is ambiguity in what is being asked for.  There will be an effort to create a "teaching" document to advocate a common Catholic position. 

      Reality:  this kicks off a drafting process for the next few months.  Then a further debate and a vote of some sort, maybe in November, maybe not until later.  I sorta think there will be a few discussions about both theological AND pragmatic implications of the possibilities.  By November, even the bishops wanting a "less welcoming" environment for politicians who don't take a hard line position on abortion may be cautious about the inevitable appearance of partisanship.

      And whatever the document says, it would not change facts on the ground.   Bishops maintain authority in their diocese, and the Washington DC and Delaware bishops have been clear:  Biden will be welcome to take communion.

  5. And just to be ecumenical — Southern Baptists are tripping over themselves, too.

     

    VOX said

    [Scholar of evangelicals Greg] Thornbury believes the SBC is in a long-term numbers crisis: It has lost 2 million members since 2006, and 2020 saw the lowest number of baptisms since the Spanish influenza pandemic after World War I. This, he argues, is directly related to the organization’s political conservatism — including its struggles with race and sexual abuse.

    “[Youth] are going to go to church if their parents force them to, but the battle has been lost on the intellectual front, and on the emotional front,” Thornbury tells me. “I suspect that the decline will be precipitous.”

    1. JiD – a companion piece to yours (and they wonder why they can't retain their youth?) Women, y'all???  I mean, doesn't faith have any standards???

      SBC committee to consider disaffiliating Saddleback Church for ordaining women pastors

      A committee within the Southern Baptist Convention is set to consider whether a prominent megachurch led by bestselling author Rick Warren can continue in fellowship with the denomination after it ordained three women pastors last month. 

      At the annual meeting of the SBC this week in Nashville, a motion asking if the denomination should break fellowship with Saddleback Church in Orange County, California, was referred to the denomination's Credentials Committee.

      The Credentials Committee is tasked with evaluating whether SBC-associated churches meet the denomination's standards of faith and practice.

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