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April 06, 2011 03:48 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Men’s maxims reveal their characters.”

–Marquis de Vauvenargues

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    1. The worst effect of the state is intellectual. It puts our brains in a prison, simply by defining the terms in which we are permitted to think and speak. The one nonnegotiable point becomes the state itself. You are permitted to argue about what the state’s priorities ought to be (bombs or butter), but not to question the fundamental model of a state-dominated society.

      http://mises.org/daily/5186/It

      1. Bombs or butter, these are your 2 choices. Turn on the radio or the TV and every media personality will give you one or both of these options, never neither.

        I am visualizing a new t-shirt.

        The butter party and the bomb party. R’s and D’s, take your pick.

        A donkey lathered in free butter.

        An elephant dropping bombs on an invisible enemy that has no central authority, therefore a declaration of surrender will never be signed. Infinite war, whoopee.

            1. Yup, those statist, liberal professors have a profound impact on me. They remind we everyday why we should reject their brainwashing and instead embrace liberty.

          1. I was talking to myself on purpose; I do it all the time.  Have you seen Steve Harvey on Family Feud, he is the best host yet. Dude is hilarious.

          2. MG can be read and comprehended in under a half hour, and you don’t need to constantly refer to the Expanded Edition of Roget’s Thesaurus.

            1. Steve’s posts occasionally teach one new words. So do Mark’s, but mostly just words I mutter under my breath as I read them.

              1. The butterbombers are defending their statist regime. Keep it coming.

                You may be asking yourselves, what is a butter bomber? Answer, the sum total of the Republican and Democrat party.

                YOU WILL HELP US DROP SOMETHING ON THE PEOPLE, EITHER BOMBS OR BUTTER, BUT WE WILL BE FORCE FEEDING YOU TODAY!

                1. currently used to reduce a complex and subtle reality to fit within the parameters of an information-deprived blind ideology. An authentic political, economic, historical, and social systemic analysis reveals a complex relationship between state and economy, the growing complexity of the latter creating a growing necessity for oversight by the former.

                  The Enron-induced California Energy Crisis of 2000-2001 occurred in the wake of an ill-conceived attempt to deregulate energy markets, allowing the most central players to game those markets for massive profits at similarly massive public expense. The underregulated derivatives market (NOT the loosened lending standards, which lenders didn’t need, since they were tripping over one another to float loans that didn’t even meet those standards) was almost entirely responsible for the financial sector meltdown of 2008.

                  Modern developed capitalist economies, without exception, are all characterized by large administrative states. Not a single participant in the post-WWII economic expansion lacked such an infrastructure. There is no modern, developed, wealthy nation that has ever lacked such an infrastructure at any time. Ours was put in place during the Great Depression, immediately catalyzing unprecedented growth (until FDR’s bow to budget hawks in 1937), and laying the foundation for our post-WWII economic boom.

                  Transaction cost economics points to the reasons for this relationship, in terms of government’s role in reducing transaction costs and lubricating markets, preventing information asymmetries from facilitating devastating gaming of markets by centrally located market actors, and internalizing the public costs and benefits of private transactions into market pricing mechanisms.

                  It’s time for all reasonable people of goodwill to stop espousing empty platitudes, and to start dealing with the real world in which we live, using sound analyses to forge pragmatic policies that serve the public interest.

          3. with pursuing a line of thought, even if the last link in the chain was your own.

            In fact, it’s very healthy to talk with oneself; it cultivates the self-consciousness and integrity that those who harbor petty grudges lack.

      1. So it might as well be for you! I’ll be the blonde under 30 not imbibing but furiously texting Romer off the stage. 😉 I’m still in my PJs and haven’t decided what to wear yet, so that’s all I got for now.  

        1. Drive from work should be appropriately hellacious and parking similar, but I can’t resist going anyway. See whichever of you are going there, whether I know it’s you or not!

            1. I’m home and checking Pols, someone else from the event just messaged me on Facebook, and you’re here too 🙂 I  had a blast! We’re totally going to be puppy BFFs now, and we have to hang out with your other BFF in Cherry Creek sometime!

        1. voting will be by text messaging, might one be able to vote [some highly undesirable candidate] off the stage without actually having to be present?  Just wonderin’?

          1. But one would need the number for that, which I don’t think has been given out yet. So I guess one would need to text one’s friend attending the event in person.  

  1. However, they can beat them in the playoffs. What a crappy shooting night they had.

    How about The Rockies’ catcher Lannetta? Hitting a home run in Tuesday’s 3-0 victory against the Dodgers, AND he’s hitting .444 for the season. He’s looking great both behind and at the plate.  

    1. a) the Nuggets were outplayed – it happens

      b) It’s Iannetta. (eye-uh-netta)

      And it’s April.  If he’s batting 244 in Sep, that will be something.

    2. because they missed too many shots and way too many free throws. Even so and even without Afflalo, Bird and then Mosgov, they climbed to a small lead and stayed close until very close to the end.  In other words, bad night, not an example of being blown out by team they can’t possibly beat.  

      So chin up and lets hope Nene finds his shot and his focus again.  This isn’t the first recent game he’s looked sloppy and befuddled and not as aggressive as he should be.  

  2. Bishop Chaput has a column in which he lauds the decision of the Colorado House judiciary committee to let the civil unions bill die in committee. He lists the members of the committee who voted “No” ( all republican) and urges Catholics to call and thank them.  Telephone numbers are thoughtfully provided.

                1. 100 % in line with Ardy and Ralphie.  If you’re going to have sex with innocent children and cover it up, you deserve all the scorn people can levy on you.

                  Maybe we could send anus church lady to Chaputs parish for a good talkin’ to.

                    1. Archbishop meets anus church lady, Archbishop falls in love with anus church lady….

                      you know the rest !

            1. I am certain that my comments are completely justified. If only more would have spoken out a couple of decades ago.

              Why should men in ill-fitting dresses get special dispensation but men in fabulous dresses are lesser citizens?


  3. Eric Watkins

    OGJ Oil Diplomacy Editor

    LOS ANGELES, Apr. 5 — Fears of rocketing oil prices were stoked when former Saudi oil minister Sheikh Yamani told a conference Apr. 5 that serious unrest in his homeland could push oil prices as high as $300/bbl. “If something happens in Saudi Arabia it will go to $200 to $300[/bbl]. I don’t expect this for the time being, but who would have expected Tunisia?” said Yamani at a conference at the London-based Center for Global Energy Studies (CGES). “The political events that took place are there, and we don’t expect them to finish. I think there are some surprises on the horizon,” said Yamani, adding that underlying discontent remained unresolved in the Middle Eastern nation. “Some people relax about the situation in Saudi Arabia because the Saudi Islamic brand prohibits people to go to the street and to talk,” said Yamani, referring to the reluctance of people to participate in popular protests. “Saudi Arabia is a time bomb, but one that is constantly being reset,” said Jaafar Al Taie, managing director of Manaar Energy Consulting, in reference to recent spending by Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah to defuse potential trouble at home. “I don’t think that what the King is doing now is sufficient to prevent an uprising,” said Al Taie, whose firm advises foreign oil firms operating in the region.

  4. A powerfully addictive drug was banned in several countries, declared undesirable by organized religion, and when prohibition didn’t work, the government simply started quietly killing purveyors of this substance, perceived as a dangerous vice. It was associated with “disaffected youth” and sold in underground establishments protected by children used as spotters to warn proprietors if the authorities were headed in for a raid. Intrepid growers smuggled it across borders cut with legal substances of a similar appearance.

    Over time, people learned to refine it into a stronger, more concentrated form that delivered a quicker high. Although initially considered unhealthy, it was later found to have certain medical benefits. After the failure of prohibition to reduce or eliminate consumption of this substance, it was legalized and spawned one of the world’s most successful corporations, along with countless small businesses.

    Behold coffee.

  5. I’ve been saying the GOP goal is to take us back to the gilded age and the process is well on it’s way.  I was wrong. We’re pretty much already there:

    Since 1980, middle-class wages have largely stagnated and lower-class wages have declined, while the upper echelons of American society have seen a windfall. A study by University of California, Berkeley professor Emmanuel Saez found that, as of 2007, the top decile of American earners pulled in 49.7 percent of total wages, a level that’s “higher than any other year since 1917.”

    That was 2007.  They can only hold even more now, with the lion’s share concentrated in the top decile of that decile.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

    Replacing medicare with a plan to hand seniors a discount coupon and puts them at  the mercy of private sector insurers along with replacing medicaid with block grants that won’t come close to covering state costs (especially with so many seniors joining the ranks of those who need medicaid), forcing them to slash everything else even more, costing more jobs, would just be icing on the Let-Them-Eat Cake.  

    It would save nothing but shift even more costs to average tax payers and seniors and quickly finalize the total destruction of the American middle as an economic or political force the few hundred families at the top need to bother about. And Obama is treating this as something reasonable to put on the table?  Why?

    1. The middle class is in the middle of a war they didn’t even know existed.

      The Koch brothers and their ilk have bought a government that plays by new rules while the rest of us still figured there were a few rules that mattered.

      Bush was bad–the future is worse unless we realize the new robber barons wont be satisfied until we, the middle class, will all be begging for our education, health and retirement security.  The cost of higher ed and health care will make us indentured servants to our debts and slaves of our corporate overmasters.

      Hyperbole as I write it–not really when I think about it.

      1. Beck leaves Fox, a network which repulses me so actively that my mental spellcheck corrects it to “MSNBC” when I try to type it.

  6. Last night’s election results in Wisconsin were “interesting”…

    The Milwaukee County executive’s race was handily won by a relatively unknown Democrat, Chris Abele, over Republican State Rep. Jeff Stone.  Stone was undoubtedly hampered by his recent votes against workers at the state House.

    In the meantime, the Wisconsin Supreme Court race is too close to call.  With all precincts reporting in their initial tallies, Joanne Kloppenberg has a 200-300 vote lead over incumbent Walker-supporting David Prosser. (Out of 1.4 million votes cast, for an 0.02% margin!)  Now we get in to absentees and provisionals – and an inevitable recount – but the message today is that a relative unknown appears to have toppled one of Walker’s friends on the court.  This would be only the fifth time a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice has been ousted since 1852 when elections began.

    1. Handy link here for final tally of 3620 precincts.

      Most impressive part of this is how many voters, from both sides of the aisle, turned out for an election that would typically be ignored. The bases of both Republicans and Democrats are most definitely fired up and engaged.  

      1. There was a lot of money spent on – and a lot of energy behind – both sides of this race.  There are no final turnout numbers yet – apparently in some places the absentee ballot piles are larger than in 2008(!) – but this is easily the largest Spring election turnout Wisconsin has ever seen.

        The other big story is that both sides were out near the polling places with petitions about the recall – recall supporters with recall petitions, Republican supporters with “support your State Senator” signup sheets.  I’m sure the recall folks had quite a boost in their numbers yesterday.  (A judge ruled that since they weren’t campaigning on an issue related to this election, they could stand quite close to the election centers – 10 feet…)

    1. shocker.  And Ryan wants even more tax cuts.  Real responsible leadership. His figures don’t add up with the CBO estimates either.

      How about cutting both military and domestic spending, raising taxes on the richest Americans, closing corporate income tax loopholes, and leaving medicare and social security the fuck alone (since we’ve paid for it already)?

      How about that ?

      1. of mine today and when I brought up defense, I was immediately reassured that cuts are “in there.” That wasn’t my point. But who on the right wants to talk about cutting the fatted calf? No. No. No. Twist and spin and let’s talk about “entitlements”. The Republican’s favorite dirty little word.

        This one boils down to ideology for me. If you want to gut entitlements, join the Republican Party. Vote for Republicans. If you want to keep Medicare in tact, join the Democratic Party. Vote for Democrats.

        Simple as that. That sums up 2012’s election and what is at stake.  

    2. The Chicago Tribune endorsed the more conservative position? Next you’ll be telling me Fox News is thinking of supporting Republicans! Wait, that already happened too!!???

      Oh, and unsurprisingly you still haven’t answered my very simple question from yesterday.

      Days waiting for 20th Maine to explain his position on the Bush tax cuts: 1

  7. WASHINGTON — A divisive budget battle between labor unions and Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.) turned a state Supreme Court race into a nationally watched bellwether on the electorate’s mood heading into a recall campaign and the 2012 elections.

    Nearly 1.5 million people turned out to vote, representing 33.5 percent of voting-age adults — 68 percent higher than the 20 percent turnout officials had expected. JoAnne Kloppenburg has already declared victory, with the vote tallies showing her beating incumbent David Prosser by just a couple hundred votes. The race is expected to head to a recount.

    Significantly, 19 counties that went for Walker in the 2010 elections this time flipped and went for Kloppenburg, including LaCrosse (59 percent), Sauk (56 percent) and Dunn (56 percent).

    There were no party affiliations on the ballot, but Kloppenburg was heavily backed by Democrats and Prosser by Republicans, making it a fierce proxy battle for the two parties.

    Let the battle begin.

  8. I had argued that the ccc – corporate catholic church- was a force lobbying against civil unions.  It was not my intent to solicit untoward remarks about the sexual orientation of anyone.

    However, the 1st Amendment is a beautiful right which I fully support.  I left the ccc many years ago.  The vile corruption and coverup about the abuse of children demonstrated to me that the ccc doesn’t believe in a just God or indeed any God.

    So as a matter of conscience, I was out of there.

    Now, the issue here is not to throw stones, it is to figure out a strategy on how to secure civil rights for everyone. I would like some more information about a legal route.

    Years ago, a gay couple applied for a marriage license in Boulder, were turned down; sued, and lost.  I don’t remember the particulars of that case at all.  My question is:  Have there been intervening events which would make such a legal challenge in Colorado viable, now???

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