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March 23, 2011 03:47 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done.”

–Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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  1. Men of a certain age loved (lusted after)her.  Women of a certain age envied her.  All enjoyed watching her on and off the screen.  Maggie in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof I think was my favorite movie although Virginia Wolfe was a close 2nd.  

    Elizabeth Taylor – RIP

    1. while so many star moms who have led turbulent, drug and alcohol scarred, much married lives wind up being the subject of offsprings’ bitter tell all memoirs, her children, from an assortment of her many marriages, all seem to adore her and were with her at the end. And while her marriages may not have lasted, her loyalty in lifelong friendships, including the friendship that outlived the marriages to Richard Burton, always did. Here’s to a great broad.

    1. I haven’t seen anything more truly depressing than this yet today.

      (Maybe this would seem funnier if it wasn’t happening just a few miles down the road from where I live?    Texas! — Texas, now that would be much funnier IMHO.)

  2. Id like to call it the “Unnecessary Religious-themed Ornaments Bill.”


    GOP House Judiciary Committee Resolves to Put ‘In God We Trust’ on All Federal Buildings – What Will That Cost?

    If Signs Cost $10,000 Each, the Cost of Signage for 9,000 Federal Buildings Would Require $90 Million in New Republican Spending

    Just four months ago the tea party Republicans won control of the House by campaigning on reducing the deficit and promising to focus on “Jobs, jobs, jobs.” But in the 12 weeks since they officially took over, what they have shown is that, despite their new “tea party” branding, this current batch is no different from the GOP pols who ran Congress in the Bush and Gingrich eras.

    And now comes this theocratic silliness:

       [Virginia] U.S. Rep. Randy Forbes’ bill to reaffirm “In God We Trust” as the national motto and encourage its display in all public schools was approved by a House committee Thursday after a sharp partisan debate.

       Opponents argued it goes too far in pushing one religious belief, while supporters said it acknowledges what they consider God’s role in the success of the United States.

    A little background: In 1782, the Founding Fathers chose as the motto for the United States, “E pluribus unum,” which means “Out of many, one.” In 1956, at the height of the Cold War, Congress passed a law making “In God we trust” the official motto, a move that was primarily meant as an insult to the godless communists who ran the Soviet Union. Founders Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington as well as Abraham Lincoln, all of whom believed firmly in the separation of religion and the government and none of whom were particularly religious, have been spinning in their graves ever since.

    Similarly, this new bill resolution from Rep. Forbes is really just a political goad directed at Pres. Obama, who recently cited “E pluribus unum” as the national motto.

    Here’s more* on the intent of the measure from Forbes himself:

       “This sends a clear message to all these government departments and agencies that it’s all right to put up the motto on our buildings and in our classrooms. And I think it will stop the tide of the chilling effect over the past several years. We’re not forcing anybody to do anything. But at the same time, we want to stand there to protect people who want to say God in a public building. And we don’t want some government agency telling them that they can’t put the national motto in their buildings or classrooms.”

    Rep. Forbes claims the law would not “force” the government to put signs on federal buildings, that it would merely make it “all right” to do so. But let’s not be naive about politicians’ reluctance to stand up to theocrats or about how the government works. Passing the law to approve the signs is step one. Step two would occur over the months and years after the law was passed, with enabling and funding legislation tacked on as amendments to bills totally unrelated to the signs. This legislation would lead to step three, ordering the manufacture and installation of the signs. And, obviously, if signs are created for federal buildings, they will be paid for with federal tax dollars.

    Here’s how this same issue played out regarding signage on the most important federal building in the nation:

       Forbes said that of all the events eroding the motto in public building, the cause “culminated in the case of the new Capitol Visitor Center.” When the U.S. Capitol’s new Capitol Visitors Center was set to open in 2008, the motto “In God We Trust” was left off the building.

       They tried to keep ‘In God We Trust’ out of the visitor’s center,” said Forbes. “At first, they put in stone: ‘Our national motto is E pluribus unum.’ And then they did a mock-up of the Speaker’s podium. And where ‘In God We Trust’ is on it, they replaced it with just stars.”

       Outraged members of the House and Senators intervened on the issue, which came to a vote in the House in 2009. The bill which directed the architect of the Capitol to engrave “In God We Trust” in a prominent place in the building passed by a vote of 410 to 8. The Senate passed the same bill, and as a result, “In God We Trust” was engraved in the main foyer.

    There are apparently about 9,000 federal buildings around the country, so as far as “jobs, jobs, jobs,” goes, if it requires two signmakers to create and install a new sign for each building, that’s 18,000 temporary jobs, or, at the very least, work orders.

    http://www.pensitoreview.com/2

    I wonder if Focus on the Family could bid on the RFP? THAT might create a few jobs in Somalia Springs…

    1. pointing out how none of their bills had anything to do with the promised jobs focus and that their budget proposals were all job killers instead of creators than I’ll just give up on even trying to get Dems elected.  

    2. pole dancing classes, and return the motto to that which the founding fathers intended.

      Where’s all those originalist tea-partiers when you finally need them?

  3. Romer sounds terrible in the commercial.

    The producers were probably so sick of him they just called it a day no matter how bad it sounded.   So far two really bad ads are on the air for Boigon and Romer.  The first candidate up with a decent ad will have the early advantage.  Not only does Romer sound terrible the ad seems to be for a school board race.

    1. The link is just to dKos, no specific article.

      I’m assuming you’re meaning “Randy” Randy (Bed) Hopper, though…

      He’s got bigger issues than Kos’s online saturation campaign of his district IMHO. Between him ditching his wife for a lobbyist, moving out of district to live with her, and seemingly getting her hired on by the state with a big fat raise in the middle of a supposed financial crisis, Hopper is going to be seeing a lot of shit heading his way from a lot of different directions.

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