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I’ve had as blocking software for a while, and just got used to
1. faster page loading; and
2. gray spaces where ads would otherwise be.
Now I see that Pols is running ads from an anonymous enterprise promising to thwart the Obama snoops. Is this a great country, or what ?
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….about getting rid of all the various US bases across the islands of Japan after this…
http://online.wsj.com/article/…
I suppose that the Okinawan’s will still hoot and screech for the Navy & Marines to leave, but I wonder about the rest of the nation…
The Japanese have the right to objections based on various issues concerning US bases. Pretty surprised. Wouldn’t have expected you to use this tragedy as an excuse for being snarky and smug.
..the aircraft carrier off the coast of Japan that’s actively involved in rescue operations had to back off and undergo extensive decontamination procedures. The sailors and marines on-board and afloat are risking their health and lives to engage in this operation – due to the lawful orders of the CiC, but they’re still at risk for another country’s citizens.
Folks back in The World have missed most (if not all) of the various protests and complaints by the Japanese over bases on their soil over the last 30 years. And while almost all of it is legit, (esp the SOFA agreements that allow American SM’s to be prosecuted by military authorities over local ones, which is seen as “getting off lightly”) there was a ton of nasty rhetoric included….a lot of that unjustified.
Pile that on top of the subtle racist crap that non-white SM’s have had to put up with in Japan, then I can have by brown skivvies in a knot over this.
I’m not calling out an entire country over this, just the Nationalists who’ve been hooting about it. I’m at least glad that the Okinawans have decided to stop protesting at the front gate of Kadena airbase while it’s working night and day in relief efforts.
Either the US is helping them and we are welcome, gratitude or none.
Or we are not.
It just makes no sense in any understandable way to say Well, we want you out until and unless we don’t ….like now or if CHina were to invade or something…. But we hate your presence and want you out…unless.
as we so sorely understand here in the USA.
Withholding aid or any sort of assistance from our military for easing the devastation in Japan based on what some right wing idiot waving the Hinomaru says isn’t a good idea.
We help, we accept the gratitude of the majority of the good Japanese people that are sane, and we ignore the idiots.
that our help is very much appreciated. Does that mean all Japanese are obligated to refrain from complaining about any issues they may have connected with our military presence?
I wasn’t aware that our help should only be available to those who promise that 100% of the population has and never will criticize anything we have ever done or failed to do forever. If so, we certainly are a fragile lot.
Should we also refuse to help people in disasters in Tea Party heavy red states because they say mean things about our federal government? Remember to always show the proper deference or screw you? Now those are words to live by aren’t they?
But SSG Dan is not wrong to make the observation he made.
…I specified my wrath was directed at the Japanese Nationalists who are being jackwads about the presence of US bases in Japan.
Extrapolating my comments to include the entire Japanese population is the stuff of Libertad and Beej’s posts, not your usual stuff.
Bite me. Everybody is capable of being a jerk once in a while and I call ’em like I see ’em. I’ve reread your posts and don’t buy your post-original post rationalizations and excuses. It was completely uncalled for and low rent. That’s my opinion and I stand by it.
get stationed in another country, and some group in that country protests your presence…sometimes but is happy to have you and your country around other times.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, wore the t-shirt out and donated it to Goodwill.
Of course the Japanese Nationalists are entitled to their opinion. And, of course, so am I.
And if now isn’t a good time to remind those who don’t want us there, that most of their neighbors do want us there, and it’s a good thing for us to be there, then when?
I’ll agree to disagree if you want.
“Volunteering, putting on a uniform, swearing an oath….” doesn’t get you any more entitled than anyone else.
Let me tell you a short story, happened two days ago. I was in a kids pool with three nephews, ages 3,4 and 7, when 8 or 9 rowdy young men come in with a bucket of Budweiser. Loud, vulgar and extremely inappropriate they took over the pool. It was considerably warmer than the adult pool, and the hot tub was on another floor a quarter mile away.
Not one to shy away, I walked up to these guys and told them that they were in the kiddies pool, and to keep their voices down, and stop the vulgarity. First thing out of their collective mouths was “Hey, We defending your country for you. We’re making sure your kids don’t have to go to Iraq.” I replied, “I’m protecting my kids from YOU, and I paid for that beer. Now get the fuck out.” Security showed up quickly…this being Las Vegas and all.
Wearing a uniform doesn’t give anyone a right to be an obnoxious boor.
We’re an occupying power in too many countries, at too great a cost in lives and my tax money.
We’ll continue to disagree.
And those guys were a-holes.
It’s about perspective. I’m not sure how plausible it is to believe that just anyone can understand what it’s like to be far from home, on duty, doing a job that some of the locals hate your for, until they need you.
Maybe. but it doesn’t feel like it.
is about “entitled”. I’m not saying you are calling Lumping all Japanese together. Just saying that even the specific one you object to are just as entitled to be assholes as you are. They’re just as entitled to have issues with with anything they please as you are. They’re just as entitled to be as nationalist as any American. And putting on a uniform doesn’t exempt anyone from being called an a-hole when they act like an a-hole.
My husband is a Vietnam vet, My father and uncles were WWII vets and when they’ve acted like jerks, they’re still jerks.
I must say, though, none of them have ever acted like jerks over anything like this. I never heard and crap like this about the Japanese from my dad or uncles who would have been a hell of a lot more justified than you or Dan, especiallly my youngest uncle. I never heard any crap about “ungrateful” Vietnamese from my husband. So, as Dan so eloquently put it: Bite me.
And I still think your finding, in this tragedy, an excuse to vent about not being appreciated enough by,as you yourselves’ specify, a few Japanese, is classless.
I’m not saying you’ll agree- but you don’t understand what I’m saying.
And I still don’t understand why it’s relevant to any discussion about the tragedy going on now in Japan. Are there crowds of Japanese sneering at our offers of help? Seen any Yankee go Home signs on the news? WTF?
We don’t have to agree about everything and I don’t have to misunderstand what you’re saying in order to disagree. I just don’t see why Dan felt the need to inject any of this into a discussion about the quake, tsunami. nuclear melt down situation in Japan.
To be clear, I don’t think there’s a valid point in there no matter how you look at it. Americans complain about the federal government and say terrible insulting things about the president and other pols all the time and then accept the Feds help in a disaster. All the time. So what if some Japanese complain or make insulting remarks and then accept the help of our nearby troops in their disaster? Just makes them pretty much like us. So what? WTF?
I’m a dick.
SSG Dan was a jerk for posting anytihng critical of anything related to Japan.
You completely get me and him.
think you have a bone to pick with the attitude of a segment of Japanese toward American forces stationed there. And there is nothing wrong with being critical of Japan, the US or any other country. Maybe you don’t get what I’m saying.
Using this tragedy to make any kind of point about the military occupation of Japan is offensive and unnecessary. Regardless of whether Japanese who oppose American military bases are right or wrong, helping innocent victims is something we as Americans should do just because we’re decent people, not to try to gain some minor political points.
It’s like seeing the military rescuing black people in New Orleans and saying, “Hope those people will stop bitching about the Tuskegee experiment now!”
And in case anyone wasn’t sure, your juvenile strawman post makes it clear you know you’re wrong here and have run out of any rational justifications.
…I don’t know how much internal manipulation you went thru to jazz yourself up with all the self-righteousness, but there’s a class of people in Japan that are out-and-out asshoels about tossing every single base off Japan.
I didn’t add “Nationalists” after your started your rant, it’s been there since I started the thread.
You want to understand some of the racist shit that SMs (esp African-Americans) go thru when they try and spend some time off-base, look up “Koku-jin” and “Kurombo.”
The fact that the Marines and Sailors stationed in the area manage to put that aside and help some of the same people who use these terms for them makes me incredibly proud. And all the while I’m waiting for a “Um, yeah, we’re really glad you’re saving our ass” moment from those Japanese Nationalists who are hooting about how horrible the US is.
Just sayin…
I’ll remain a fan of yours. It’s ok not to agree 100% of the time. We’ll all get past it.
in fairness there are MOST DEFINITELY nationalist assholes in Japan. Shinto Ishihara, former mayor of Tokyo, is a notorious one.
But I really hope we as a country wouldn’t take heart of what he and those on the idiot fringe say and let that interfere with us helping Japan right now.
We can’t give uber nationalist a-holes enough credence to fuck up good relationships among countries, and can’t let them get in the way of basic human decency, which is probably exactly what they want. What we are doing now is probably shutting them the fuck up anyway for a long time.
h/t Jonathon Turley
We, the American people, are also not being listened to. The polls are unambiguous.
I agree with BlueCat, and would ad that the “hoot and screech” description is unfortunate. I would also ask, would any reasonable person conclude that the military is the appropriate response to disasters? To my way of thinking, aside from natural disasters, the various militaries in the world have been the source of more loss of life and destruction than any other cause.
a citizen of country where the typical view is to see anything less than ultra nationalism, constant “hooting and screeching” that we’re number one and unshakeable belief in our own exceptionalism as deeply suspect (from Vietnam era “love it or Leave it” slogan to present accusations that Obama and liberals hate America), insulting nationalist sentiments in another country. All in all, a pretty jarring comment.
See my reasons above. And we started these bases after WWII, not because of some imperial expansion in response to the “threat” of the Soviet Union.
and don’t see any of your excuses as relevant here. As to WWII:
1) for most Japanese today who had nothing to do with it, being expected to behave with the correct degree of humility towards us and shame for the nation’s past indefinitely generations later must be getting old.
2) I think having been the victims of the only atomic military attacks in history and the horrific nuclear holocaust to which they were subjected might be considered as putting paid to whatever debt the civilian population of the time, much less their progeny, may have owed the world.
I get that you have resentments and that Japanese are famously insular and, yes, racist. Probably more so than less homogenous cultures but, really, which cultures don’t have plenty of xenophobic racists? That doesn’t change the fact that, while we’re all entitled to being snarky a-holes, you are definitely being a snarky a-hole. And I’m surprised at you.
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I was on here in time to post the first reply to Dan.
I tried 2 completely different drafts, and both would have impaired my friendship with Dan, I fear, so I canceled both.
Married to a former Korean, I know something about Japanese racism.
I personally witnessed a violent anti-American protest outside Yokota in 1961.
Nevertheless, its a huge burden to Okinawa, which supposedly was freed from US occupation in 1972, to still have 20% of its territory, arguably the best 20%, controlled by the US military.
We are shifting 8,000 Jarheads from Okinawa to Guam, and the Guahans are the ones howling now.
It seems that nobody likes a foreign occupation military.
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…and I’ll take that label of “snarky asshole” when it comes to my distain of Japanese Nationalists who have spent decades bashing the American bases (and the Americans on them) for the fact that they’re on Japanese soil.
If again, if you want to inflate that to include the entire Japanese population, then stop bashing Beej and Libertad for doing the same thing.
And, BTW, bite me.
to be compared to Libertad and Beej. Boo hoo. Sorry, Dan, All of these nuances you keep adding after the fact don’t change my opinion of your original tasteless, arrogant, smarmy post.
Is this scary shit, or what?
(I think she threatened the U.S. near the end. Is this the face of a terrorist?)
But just think of what Marilyn Manson fans are saying. Those freaks are killers.
This is the creepiest video I’ve seen where someone isn’t physically hurt or killed on camera.
I didn’t watch any of her other vids, but I’m inclined to think this is a long-running prank.
I’m not an expert on all the Protestant groups; there may be some that put the same emphasis on Lent that the Catholic Church does. But I don’t think the general run of fundamentalist types do. And THOSE I know a bit about, having been one in my misguided youth. (I attended a Bible college Jerry Falwell got thrown OUT of for being too liberal in his theology.)
The biggest red flag in this one is where she says “Oh my God!”, not speaking TO God, or ABOUT her God, but just as a phrase filling the conversational space, like any girlie at the mall might. That, my friends, is blasphemy, according to the beliefs I would expect a person to hold who sincerely made a vid like this.
I think she’s just a Westboro Wannabe.
I doubt anyone so young has that long an attention span.
She’s probably a Westboro Wannabe, but not like the leaders of that trash church.
I was once forced to go to an Independent Baptist “revival” (not the food fair, good time with occasional preaching I remember from Kansas) where the guest minister said the same thing. Of course, not about Japan. About young children dying. That’s apparently God’s way of telling us to open our eyes. I laughed out loud thinking of the then popular Bring the Pain by Chris Rock. Not related, it’s just what I thought and I laughed. Then came the whispers, “That’s that Jew.” Nods all around. Fair enough.
For the record, that church did observe something like Lent.
So this all sounds a bit too familiar for me to dismiss it. Unfortunately.
It’s a long attention span either way, eh? But I tend to agree that religious mania is more likely to promote such behavior than the urge to ‘punk’ the internet at large.
It just doesn’t feel authentic to me, though. More like someone’s idea of a lunatic Christian rave…it definitely looked to me like she was reading notes just below the camera angle. And ‘praying to God to change the athetists’ minds’? Really, kid? Not change their sinful ways, take Jesus as their savior, nothing? Just give ’em the ol’ attitude adjustment from on high?
Still, maybe I’m wrong, that’s certainly possible.
(won’t say where) where they talk like this girl. Shaking Japan by the shoulders? Killing thousands of innocent people and traumatizing many times more? Really? Wow. I do not want to believe in HER kind of G-d.
She makes me want to be an atheist, because whatever she is for, I’m against.
in either Bennet or Strasburg, right after the Tsunami in Thailand. They basically said the same thing. They didn’t even know what religion they practiced “over there”, but they asked God for them to convert “them” “away from their pagan gods”. I wanted to tell them that many of the people were Muslim, and believed in the same God they worshiped (the God of Abraham), but I was a guest, so I just sat there feeling sorry for them for not knowing much about the world.
n/t
There are absolutely churches out there who piously try to use tragedies of all degrees to help promote their personal view of religion.
I’m just saying I think Little Miss Good God here is faking such a view in order to gain net notoriety. But again, I might be totally wrong about her. Sadly, as you and droll both point out, there are more than enough people running loose who really DO feel this way….
So we’re all at least a little right. In any event, she kind of sucks. Along with anyone else who thinks any of these people had it coming.
Diablo Canyon 1&2 and San Onofre 1 &2 have more and bigger faults nearby than Fukushima.
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If your solution is for the great unwashed masses to go without electrical power, they may have some say in that.
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solution?
Who, me?
We should be more careful.
We should retrofit both locations.
We should build and rebuild the safest possible infrastructure, well safest “feasible”.
And I like electricity.
I’m all for universal electrification.
That it is too difficult to generate electricity responsibly and safely? That if we do so, some people (washed or unwashed?) might have to forgo a kilowatt or two?
As we are seeing now, the failure to properly incorporate “exteranlities” into the prices consumers pay for electricity has resulted in masses of people forced to go unwashed.
Japan evacuates thousands from vicinity of two nuclear power plants
Let’s not allow the privileged few to risk poisoning us without at least paying for it up front.
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My meaning was that the public will not stand to have their supply of electricity sharply cut, just because of some remote possibility of a catastrophe.
Raise the price incrementally, and use some of that money to make existing plants more safe.
But if you think this disaster will grease skids for Cap and Trade, I doubt it.
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We all want free electricity but this is not something that the Founding Fathers (hallowed by thy individual and collective names) promised or even proposed in any of their preserved writings.
A call for electricity to be generated responsibly and safely should not result in false threats that some people will have to go without.
died in coal mining accidents last year.
Nuclear power accidents?
Show your work.
On the other hand, the only reason I’ve linked to stories about nuclear is because it’s timely. The rest of my comments, you might note, are about electrical generation in general. And I am primarily considering coal in these cases, but not completely disregarding nuclear or gas or hydro or even solar, wind, and geothermal. For example, coal based electricity is “cheap” only because some other poor sap is paying the cost (to the tune of a third of a trillion dollars) with his/her life or health (whether from a mining accident or from breathing mercury downwind of a smoke stack or … .
Ummm…No
No doubt there are many faults in CA, most notably the San Andreas. The San Andreas is a near-vertical (mostly) strike-slip fault. Displacement averages about 5 cm/year.
The Japan trench is a subduction zone that is inclined (dips) about 20 degrees with the Pacific plate diving under japan. The displacement averages about 8 cm/year. While the epicenter was offshore, that’s just the location of where the earthquake started. The total area that ruptured is (IIRC) 300 miles along the fault and 100 miles across it. So the area that ruptured probably extended quite close to the coast, and wasn’t terribly deep due to the shallow angle of subduction.
So, while the San Andreas is capable of magnitude 8 earthquakes, the Japan Trench is likely to have more and bigger earthquakes.
Hosgri, Christinitos, and the Cascadia ….ymmv.
Fantastic story there of the sleuthing to figure that one out. But the convergence rate is only 2-3 cm/year and so it goes off every 300 years or so (though the last time it went off was about 300 years ago…)
As our only choices at present are coal or nuclear, we’re faced with these trade-offs.
Given that electrical generation seldom exceeds 30% efficiency (net energy output), we have lots of very good options.
Every unit of electrical energy NOT used thus saves three units of fuel energy (whether uranium, oil, coal, etc).
Improvements in efficiency and conservation continue to be the low hanging fruit.
So, to argue that we have merely two choices is, to put it nicely, completely and dangerously wrong.
Conservation and increased efficiency ARE the low-hanging fruit.
In addition, local power generation–micro-hydro, rooftop solar with reverse metering, landfill methane, tidal, etc. each according to a location’s own resources–could reduce demand for large centralized plants considerably (not eliminate, but reduce).
Sure both approaches take investment and government direction, but together they could reduce the need for more large power plants.
The problem is that nuclear doesn’t pay for itself.
Coal is not the only alternative (as ardy and CT point out) and
solar is expensive, wind is unreliable, water wheels driving a mill are of limited use, an ox walking a circle is of limited use, and so on.
Have you ever priced the insurance for a nuclear power plant subject to earthquake, tsunami, or volcanic activity?
What’s that – there is no requirement for such a thing, and absent regulatory requirement there is no demand for such a thing?
Michael Cass, general counsel for American Nuclear Insurers, based in Glastonbury, Conn., a joint underwriting company consisting of 21 insurance companies, said under the reinsurance treaties with the Japanese electric companies, damage resulting from earthquake, tidal wave or volcanic activity is excluded under the policy.
Not sure solar has to be “expensive”.
just the “externalized” costs of coal have been recently estimated at $0.09-0.27/kWh, solar generated electricity really isn’t any more expensive than this “cheap” variety.
But to make it electrical is still expensive, though I believe it the efficiencies will continue to increase exponentially and the cost will drop dramatically. on par with computation cost/price from the 1950s through 1980s
As I look at the pictures of the destruction, it brings to mind pictures I have seen of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the nuclear bombing of those cities.
Our nation and others should do all we can in this disaster.
The images now coming in of Minamisanriku, where it is thought that most of the entire town of 10,000 are dead (and almost all are missing), are heartbreaking. The entire town was leveled by the Tsunami. Residents there had perhaps 10 minutes from the time the earthquake hit to evacuate the town – it’s not known how many were quick enough to do so.
I’m going to try to reach in to my pockets and find some loose change for donations.
Ironically, after pretty much every major natural disaster around the world in recent years, one of the first countries stepping up to donate was Japan. They’ve really seemed quite generous. Time for the rest of us to give back.
of where to donate here.
I just made a small donation to the American Red Cross. I couldn’t sit here and do nothing, my heart aches for those people.
h/t Raw Story
you know you are in deep shit.
and probably going to jail, like Leona Helmsley
He won his seat by 150 votes in 2008. With the wife and maid voting against him, Dems just need to pick up 148 votes. 🙂
He won by 150
150 – 2 = 148 margin
but opponent
148 + 2 =146D’s need just 146 vote margin, or 73 voters to switch.
and I bet they are super thrilled with him right now. Let’s just hope they’re old enough to vote.
and therefore was he eligible to vote on the union busting deal?
But it would give them yet another reason to go ahead with a recall. Hopper’s district is only the fifth most likely to favor a recall; him having skipped out on his wife and moved in with a lobbyist mistress might boost those odds significantly…
But in Colorado you only have to live in your district until the election.
This is just too much fun! If not for the fact that this is just like years worth of “my family values are better than yours” GOP stories going back to “I cheated on my wives with Lady Liberty” Newt, I’d say you guys must have made this up!
What are you plans for this big day?

This?
Or this?
Or this?
Enjoy!
Pi Day
Well, yeah, the guy said some dumb stuff but (Insert “shocked…shocked” here) it was edited to leave out quite reasonable and ethical things he said and to show him apparently laughing at one thing when he was actually laughing at quite another. But don’t take my word for it. Take Glenn Beck’s news aggregation site’s word:
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/14/…
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something about the reliability of Glen Beck ?
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right twice a day.
Didn’t make it that far down the thread this weekend. So, I guess another “bite me?”
http://morgsatlarge.wordpress….
I can’t think of, or find, a competitor’s ad. What’s up with that?
for the runoff?
If everyone’s holding on to their cash, they must each be pretty sure that they’re making it to round 2.
Which I would guess is why Boigon’s making her move now, to reach another voters to garner one of the top two spots, which I don’t think she’s going to get. I think Hancock and Romer both assume they will be the top two vote getters and they’re holding onto their cash for round two.
overestimating their name recognition then. Counting on people to know you exist after the first round seems short (or too long?) sighted to me.
That said; your analysis is probably right.
If I were Mejia, I’d be on air as much as I could afford because I think he would have a good chance of sneaking into 2nd place. I don’t think most of those that made the ballot have enough $$$ to get on air. That’s my guess as to why they aren’t.
Boigon’s ad is just the first one to pop up. Romer, Hancock and Mejia will be releasing their ads before long too.
Puts that all to rest. Thanks!
“In honor of Women’s History Month, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is celebrating the accomplishments female service members have made while serving their country. The photos in this set depict women in uniform over the past 75 years. They were submitted to VA by the Veterans themselves (or their family members) after the Department put out a request on its blog, Facebook page, and Twitter feed.”
http://www.flickr.com/photos/v…
It is amazing that she actually paid somebody a lot of money to produce a terrible ad. They didn’t even bother to put makeup on her.
I bet she gets fewer votes than Theresa Spahn and comes in sixth.
http://boigonfordenver.com/med…
Don’t be such a dick.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…
Reports are coming out that they believe this explosion started inside the containment vessel, which means they’re thinking it’s cracked.
They have now evacuated all workers except about 50 involved in trying to cool down these three units.
and because I like things put simply, here’s an apparently decent account of what’s happened until the video was aired. They touch on the cracking issue, but before this last explosion.
Or so I think. You guys are great for keeping up the information, but it’s still hopelessly over my pretty little head. 🙂 Thanks for the effort though.
the country that suffered great civilian loss from nuclear bombs and subsequent radiation poisoning in WWII, is now fighting to keep nuclear power plant radiation harm to their people to a minimum.
This is very bad news if what they suspect is actually true.
There are now reports of a fire in reactor #4 at the complex. Unit 4 was offline, but the building stored spent fuel rods. Officials suspect that the spent fuel rods became uncovered and heated up to the point where their zircaloy shell caught fire.
If true, this is a warning of the release of significant radioactive material in to the air. Wind is currently blowing straight down the island toward Tokyo, and an increase in radiation has been detected in the city, though it is not yet approaching dangerous levels.
This is bad, folks. All thoughts and prayers are with Japan tonight.
NHK was just reporting that workers have been evacuated and radiation levels have spiked, while pressure in the dome has unexpectedly decreased. This is crazy. Poor, poor Japan.
http://www.news.com.au/breakin…
I’ll let you know.
I’ve been a smoker for too long.
All I have left is an old Civil Defense geiger counter.
I have a scintillation counter too, but I can’t afford to put batteries into it. They cost an arm and a leg.
Unless you can smell radiation, you’re on your own.
at least until they get their permit in Emery County.
Coming soon to a theatre near you?
Nuclear power is safe and clean.
Diesel generators? pfft
So last century.
http://www.myspace.com/video/v…
They look exciting! Fast, energetic, having fun. Who’s responsible for this deal? Kudos.
Because that’s hard here in Grand Junction.
But I have listened to them.
They are indeed fun. But because of the way NBA games are officiated, they won’t get very deep into the playoffs.
If you have a superstar, your star can trip over his own shoelaces and get a call from the refs. If you’re just a cohesive team, like the Nuggets, you’ll never get the call.
The Nuggets have already been relegated to the dustbin of NBA TV coverage because they lack star quality.
Write David Stern if you don’t like it. He pays the refs.
More than 100,000 Wisconsin workers and supporters turned out on Saturday to rally for worker’s rights, including the 14 Democratic State Senators who had left to deny a quorum on the budget bill.
This afternoon, GOP Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald declared the 14 Dems were still in contempt of the Senate (no word as to why or how) and were therefore denied their voting rights in all standing committees. (Technically, they’re allowed to vote, but those votes are not to be recorded or counted.)
That should help the recall effort maintain its momentum. After 11 days, supporters of the recall (of GOP senators) have collected approximately 45% of the required signatures, and more than 50% in some districts.
A poll due out tomorrow from PPP (commissioned by DailyKos) shows a generic Democrat winning three of the eight contests, with two others in serious danger.
(For those who want to know, Sen. “Randy” “Bed Hopper” is one of the three that is losing right now; the poll was taken before the revelation of his newfound “patriotism”, so we can expect his numbers to get worse.)