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November 12, 2020 10:06 PM UTC

Friday Open Thread

  • 65 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“All good sports reporters know that the best stories are in the loser’s locker room.”

–Pete Hamill

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65 thoughts on “Friday Open Thread

    1. I think that the Republicans' politicians' fealty to Trump is short-lived. He has his fans and they will continue to buy his swag, but Trump does not have the intellect or the attention span to maintain a political movement. He just wants to golf, hold rallies, exact revenge, and maybe find his next wife.

      On the other hand, Trump's long term effect on the Republican party – the embrace of authoritarianism (which dovetails nicely with religious zealotry), is very concerning. If someone who is actually competent to wield the power of government takes the helm, we may have a serious fight to maintain our democracy.

            1. Secret Service protection can be extended …. and it can be turned down.  Presumably, if the threat to the children of Trump come from the Antifa Resistance Movement (ARM), it would be considered related to Presidential service and would be more likely to draw Secret Service.  If, on the other hand, the threat comes from, say, an Eastern European country's organized crime forces, Secret Service would be unlikely to become involved.

              1. Adult children of former presidents don't get Secret Service protection.  They could probably get Proud Boy Protection Services, Inc. fairly cheap, however.

  1. Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswald (a proud Democrat) pushes out some good news [and I provide a few points of emphasis]:

    While results are yet to be finalized and ballots are still being processed, it is nevertheless clear that the turnout for the 2020 election in our state has been historic.  As of Nov. 12, 3,314,960 Coloradans have returned ballots for processing, more than in any election in our state’s history, for an astonishing turnout rate of 87.1% of active registered voters.

    … Of the over 3.3 million ballots returned, 94% were done so by mail or by dropping them off in one of the nearly 390 ballot drop boxes available statewide.  For those who wanted to vote in person, a group that has totaled nearly 200,000, we worked closely with county clerks to ensure that the 342 Voter Service & Polling Centers across the state adhered to state and local health guidelines, making sure that both election workers and voters were protected from COVID-19.  

    …Thanks to the ability of our counties to begin processing ballots for scanning 15 days before Election Day, 78% of results were reported on election night, despite the historic number of ballots returned.

    …Colorado’s is not an overnight success, but rather the result of hard, bipartisan work of a succession of governors, Colorado state legislatures, county clerks, and secretaries of state to create and implement the model we enjoy today.  

  2. I see Trumps' Pennsylvania lawyers (from Ohio) have resigned from the case…

    McCains' Revenge has come to fruition. 

    The Orange King is deposed. His ignominious reign is nearly done. 

    Hey…Powerful Pear…Are you ready to live in a secular, non-segregated, equal opportunity, society? One that sees the health of the planet as much more important than ExxonMobils' profit margin?

    Are you actually ready to make peace? Or, are you getting your tactical gear together?

     

      1. I AM a little socialist… Though, not entirely.

        I like Social Security and SNAP..I like the VA.  I like Medicare and the national park system. You know, like that.

        I also played Capitalism with some success.

        It is all about balance, I have heard it said.

        1. Well then try to mix in words like liberty, justice, opportunity, puppies and cheerleaders once in awhile.

           

          Wouldn't you just love a revenue neutral carbon tax that pays for the transition?

    1. Powerful Pear just wants to get elected to something. He’s a genial guy with an outgoing, friendly way about him, so it could happen.

      But I’m glad that  RTD’s many “free-riding” public school students, disabled folks, veterans, unemployed job-seekers, seniors, mall-riders, and moms on TANF, not to mention RTD’s employees making $15 an hour or above, are lucky that he wasn’t elected to their Board of Directors to run RTD “more like a business”.

      1. "Run it like a business" is a phrase that has generated enormous suffering.

        Hosptals, schools, prisons, should not be in "business". They should be in "service", for the benefit of the community.

        1. On the other hand, I am reminded of a quote some years back; don't remember who now; from a mother superior who was in charge of a Catholic hospital…..

          "If we don't run like a business, pretty soon we're out of business."

          I say this as an individual who has served for decades on the board of directors of various non-profit organizations.

          1. To be fiscally responsible does not mean you have to run everything "like a business." Business, government, nonprofits each have concretely different bottom lines and measures of success and failure. The bottom line for government is far more complex than the bottom line for a business. You actually have to measure the success of priorities and outcomes for people, quality of life, and the environment rather than a simple financial bottom line. 

            1. The Colorado Non-Profit Association has published several editions of "Principles and Practices for Non-Profit Excellence in Colorado." You can check it out under Resources (top tool bar) at:

              coloradononprofits.org   

              The entities outlined by Duke, except for for-profit prisons, are either non-profits or governmental entities. I refer to actual non-profits, which have to be incorporated in their state of primary activity and which will have mission statements and bylaws to govern what they do. Section .501(c) of the IRS Code outlines around a dozen different types of non-profit entities.

            1. RTD is not a pure business, nor is it a non-profit – it is a “public agency”. I’ll argue that its business of public transportation fits within the definition of “The Commons” –  a public good, like public health, clean water, air, safety, public education,etc.

              That means it will not and should not be measured only the way a for-profit is. For example, on time buses and miles in traffic, and no-accident days are all worthwhile metrics – but so are numbers of school kids, seniors, disabled people, and job seekers who are safely transported, for free or at a discount. Even if that is not profitable.

              Someone provides those grants and funds to RTD for these public goods- usually we, the taxpayers, do. And that is appropriate because it is in the Commons, a public good.

              But for certain far right believing individuals, such as Powerful Pear, the “Commons” is just Communist…..so they’re automatically agin it. Sounds like you agree.

          2. I will refrain from comparing bona fides with you CHB, as I just fell off a turnip truck day before yestiddy, but …

            There is a big difference between using sound business practices in day to operations and " operating like a business" which, in my mind , includes the profit imperative which is fundamental to the thinking of your average S corp.

            Aye…there's the rub.

    2. "Hey…Powerful Pear…Are you ready to live in a secular, non-segregated, equal opportunity, society?"

      I doubt it. Has he demanded a recount in his RTD board race?

  3. I see Unca Joe is trying to play nice with R govs about a mask mandate and he's being told to go pound sand.  I also see political genius Cilizza had an article this week that maybe a R senate can be a good thing. Sigh.

    I don't know why we're still under the illusion that any R is going to cooperate at all. Playing nice never works with these people.  Charlie Brown and the football again.

    Biden needs to exercise every bit of power he has, and I hope he has a shit ton of executive orders ready for Jan 20. Other than that Georgia, please, Georgia.

     

    1. Agreed. That especially applies to any R's being considered or appointed to positions in the Biden administration. Read somewhere this AM that H. Clinton is being considered as ambassador to the UN. Good place for her.

            1. Can’t wait to see if Mitch really makes good on his threats to Biden’s Cabinet appointments and denies the man who’s going to get nearly 80 million votes his picks to reclaim a functioning government. 

    2. He doesn't need the gubs to make nice.

      EO hand washing, masks, distancing at all sites with (or wishing for) federal funding.

      – airports, of course
      – postal facilities
      – military locations (and personnel) 
      – all gov't offices
      – colleges and schools
       

      And offer a tax credit for private business who comply. (I'm thinking Costco and Kroger) 

      1. All fantastic ideas MADCO.  I hope the Biden people are thinking along those terms rather than wasting time trying to negotiate with the other side. It's a lost cause.

        You can be cordial, but for fuck sakes don't count on R Govs or Congresscritters for anything. I mean, these were the people who would gladly have seen millions of Americans suffer just so they could put destruction of Obamacare on their resumes. 

        1. be cordial 

          If you mean armed federal agents checking id and pointing out the distance and sanitation – I’m with ya

          I mean – we know the feds have human size cages.

      1. Alva, It just wants you to reenter your password every time. It’s there, hidden by the black dots, but you have to click “submit” every time you come in.

  4. I stopped quoting Nancy Reagan long ago, but…

    Just. Say. No. 

    This is your brain on MAGA: 

    Here’s What We Know About The MAGA Rallies Planned In D.C. This Weekend

    Some prominent conservative figures like Nicholas Fuentes, a white nationalist, have promoted Saturday’s rally, and Infowars’ Alex Jones is supposedly organizing a “Stop the Steal” caravan that’s set to make its way to D.C. on Friday night ahead of Saturday’s rally.

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