Friday Open Thread

“All good sports reporters know that the best stories are in the loser’s locker room.”

–Pete Hamill


65 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. kickshot says:

    Republican Party’s shift away from democratic norms predates dump but has accelerated since


  2. JohnInDenver says:

    Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswald (a proud Democrat) pushes out some good news [and I provide a few points of emphasis]:

    While results are yet to be finalized and ballots are still being processed, it is nevertheless clear that the turnout for the 2020 election in our state has been historic.  As of Nov. 12, 3,314,960 Coloradans have returned ballots for processing, more than in any election in our state’s history, for an astonishing turnout rate of 87.1% of active registered voters.

    … Of the over 3.3 million ballots returned, 94% were done so by mail or by dropping them off in one of the nearly 390 ballot drop boxes available statewide.  For those who wanted to vote in person, a group that has totaled nearly 200,000, we worked closely with county clerks to ensure that the 342 Voter Service & Polling Centers across the state adhered to state and local health guidelines, making sure that both election workers and voters were protected from COVID-19.  

    …Thanks to the ability of our counties to begin processing ballots for scanning 15 days before Election Day, 78% of results were reported on election night, despite the historic number of ballots returned.

    …Colorado’s is not an overnight success, but rather the result of hard, bipartisan work of a succession of governors, Colorado state legislatures, county clerks, and secretaries of state to create and implement the model we enjoy today.  

  3. Duke Cox says:

    I see Trumps' Pennsylvania lawyers (from Ohio) have resigned from the case…

    McCains' Revenge has come to fruition. 

    The Orange King is deposed. His ignominious reign is nearly done. 

    Hey…Powerful Pear…Are you ready to live in a secular, non-segregated, equal opportunity, society? One that sees the health of the planet as much more important than ExxonMobils' profit margin?

    Are you actually ready to make peace? Or, are you getting your tactical gear together?


    • MADCO says:

      whoa  – let's not get carried away.

      you're sounding a little socialist.


    • kwtree says:

      Powerful Pear just wants to get elected to something. He’s a genial guy with an outgoing, friendly way about him, so it could happen.

      But I’m glad that  RTD’s many “free-riding” public school students, disabled folks, veterans, unemployed job-seekers, seniors, mall-riders, and moms on TANF, not to mention RTD’s employees making $15 an hour or above, are lucky that he wasn’t elected to their Board of Directors to run RTD “more like a business”.

      • Duke Cox says:

        "Run it like a business" is a phrase that has generated enormous suffering.

        Hosptals, schools, prisons, should not be in "business". They should be in "service", for the benefit of the community.

        • Conserv. Head Banger says:

          On the other hand, I am reminded of a quote some years back; don't remember who now; from a mother superior who was in charge of a Catholic hospital…..

          "If we don't run like a business, pretty soon we're out of business."

          I say this as an individual who has served for decades on the board of directors of various non-profit organizations.

          • ParkHill says:

            Run like a business or a kleptocracy:

            Executive salaries at $500,000 per year plus options to buy stock at half-price.


          • The realist says:

            To be fiscally responsible does not mean you have to run everything "like a business." Business, government, nonprofits each have concretely different bottom lines and measures of success and failure. The bottom line for government is far more complex than the bottom line for a business. You actually have to measure the success of priorities and outcomes for people, quality of life, and the environment rather than a simple financial bottom line. 

            • Conserv. Head Banger says:

              The Colorado Non-Profit Association has published several editions of "Principles and Practices for Non-Profit Excellence in Colorado." You can check it out under Resources (top tool bar) at:


              The entities outlined by Duke, except for for-profit prisons, are either non-profits or governmental entities. I refer to actual non-profits, which have to be incorporated in their state of primary activity and which will have mission statements and bylaws to govern what they do. Section .501(c) of the IRS Code outlines around a dozen different types of non-profit entities.

          • spaceman65 says:

            running a non-profit is very similar to running a business.  Governing is very dissimilar to running a business.  

            • kwtree says:

              RTD is not a pure business, nor is it a non-profit – it is a “public agency”. I’ll argue that its business of public transportation fits within the definition of “The Commons” –  a public good, like public health, clean water, air, safety, public education,etc.

              That means it will not and should not be measured only the way a for-profit is. For example, on time buses and miles in traffic, and no-accident days are all worthwhile metrics – but so are numbers of school kids, seniors, disabled people, and job seekers who are safely transported, for free or at a discount. Even if that is not profitable.

              Someone provides those grants and funds to RTD for these public goods- usually we, the taxpayers, do. And that is appropriate because it is in the Commons, a public good.

              But for certain far right believing individuals, such as Powerful Pear, the “Commons” is just Communist… they’re automatically agin it. Sounds like you agree.

          • Duke Cox says:

            I will refrain from comparing bona fides with you CHB, as I just fell off a turnip truck day before yestiddy, but …

            There is a big difference between using sound business practices in day to operations and " operating like a business" which, in my mind , includes the profit imperative which is fundamental to the thinking of your average S corp.

            Aye…there's the rub.

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      "Hey…Powerful Pear…Are you ready to live in a secular, non-segregated, equal opportunity, society?"

      I doubt it. Has he demanded a recount in his RTD board race?

  4. kickshot says:


    This sounds ominous:

    It’s Fugaku vs. COVID-19

    Godzilla vs.Mothra redux?

  5. NOV GOP meltdown says:

    I see Unca Joe is trying to play nice with R govs about a mask mandate and he's being told to go pound sand.  I also see political genius Cilizza had an article this week that maybe a R senate can be a good thing. Sigh.

    I don't know why we're still under the illusion that any R is going to cooperate at all. Playing nice never works with these people.  Charlie Brown and the football again.

    Biden needs to exercise every bit of power he has, and I hope he has a shit ton of executive orders ready for Jan 20. Other than that Georgia, please, Georgia.


  6. davebarnes says:

    Pols, please fix login issue.

  7. MichaelBowman says:

    I stopped quoting Nancy Reagan long ago, but…

    Just. Say. No. 

    This is your brain on MAGA: 

    Here’s What We Know About The MAGA Rallies Planned In D.C. This Weekend

    Some prominent conservative figures like Nicholas Fuentes, a white nationalist, have promoted Saturday’s rally, and Infowars’ Alex Jones is supposedly organizing a “Stop the Steal” caravan that’s set to make its way to D.C. on Friday night ahead of Saturday’s rally.

  8. kwtree says:

    Jeffco Schools joins virtually every other major metro school district in going to 100% remote learning due to rising Covid cases. Special education classes and some classes for very young kids are still in person.

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