First 2020 Presidential Debate Open Thread

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  1. JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

    Looking forward to reading how well Trump's weekend of talking to Evangelical leaders, announcing his nominee for Supreme Court, two campaign stops in PA, a round of golf, a news conference and a meeting with Gold Star Families helped him prepare for the debates.

    I read he met with Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani to talk about debating … that may have been useful, too.  Rudy provided the scoop to Fox and Friends.  Daily Beast headline summarizes:

    Fox & Friends’ Hosts Look On in Horror as Rudy Giuliani Blurts Out Biden Dementia Conspiracy Theory

  2. Genghis says:

    Gonna be a shitshow of biblical proportions.

  3. RepealAndReplace says:

    Giuliani was part of the team that did debate prep with Trump. The demented talking to the demented.

    These presidential debates should take place only on nights when the moon is full.

  4. MADCO says:

    Not tonight – I have a headache.

  5. The realistThe realist says:

    OMG! #GoJoe!

  6. RepealAndReplace says:

    Trump seems even ruder and nastier this time than 4 years ago with Hillary.

  7. RepealAndReplace says:

    Dana Bash just called it a "shit show."

  8. kickshot says:

    Gonna have to take my ‘Fire the Liar’ yard sign for another long walk down the boulevard again tomorrow. 
    I actually found myself tonight standing in front of the tv with my fists clenched. I’ve never ever even yelled at a tv before but came close t o punching one tonight. 

  9. HeavyG says:

    I thank you all for the summaries.  I could not bear to see it.

  10. RepealAndReplace says:

    Stay the course, Senator. Stand by your president.

    Love,

    Moderatus

  11. itlduso says:

    FU Chris Wallace.  You allowed Trump to prevent a debate from happening.  It embarrassed and disgraced our country.  You get zero sympathy from me no matter how “hard” it was to tell Trump to shut up.  Maybe the next female moderators will have more, umm, fortitude.

    FU Chris Wallace.

    • The realistThe realist says:

      Wallace clearly failed. You would think they would have been better prepared for the growling hyena. He simply needed to be cut off (meaning his mic) each time, after one warning. The fact that Trump apparently thought his outrageous behavior would win him the debate shows how much he has deteriorated mentally.

  12. kwtreekwtree says:

    I caught the last 20 minutes on the drive home from family birthday celebration. Cheezun Rice. $rump just showed who he is tonight.. lying, vicious, disordered. And that 35% of the evangelical/ cult / Q Anon base will just lap that verbal diarrhea up like it’s a Tastee Freeze. $rump succeeded in rattling Biden by attacking Hunter, interrupting when Biden was supposed to be getting his two minute summary in. 

    I agree, Wallace ( or whoever the moderator is next time ) needs a mic cut off button. I’ve taught “underprivileged, at risk “  middle school  boys with better manners. The President has forfeited the respect his office normally receives- we shouldn’t give the current occupant respect he hasn’t earned. 
     

    Biden was on the defensive way too much in the segment I heard- letting Trump control the narrative, responding to his needling, trying to fact check in real time. Not really a good look for him. Sigh.

    • VoyageurVoyageur says:

      I watched the whole debate and Biden did very well.  He told Trump to “shut up”. To “quit yapping” called him a “fool” and a “clown.”. Trump may have fired up his base, his apparent goal. But I watched the post debate analysis on Fox and they agreed Trump’s oafish behavior was a “lost opportunity.”. 

       when Fox says Trump blew it, Trump blew it.

      Trump needed a win.  He didn’t get it.  Biden, the frontrunner, only needed to not lose.  He won.

      In the next few days, Biden will go up a couple points in the polls.  That will bring him close to landsde margins, defined as 55/45 or better.

      Trump stinks.

  13. itlduso says:

    Trump told the proud boys to standby.  But he also warned Biden to be careful because he could be overthrown.  He ridiculously said that in respect to “antifa”.  The main point is that Trump injected a violent overthrow of a Biden Administration.  That has been somehow missed by pundits.

  14. CDW says:

    Didn't watch, but will be reading plenty about it,  I'm sure.  r&r has the solution above. Give each a set time to speak/rebut and shut off their mics the rest of the time. "Debates" in future years should be aired on PBS and NPR only with the League of Women Voters moderating…no cable or network news involved  except to spin the performances each according to their bias afterwards.  

  15. kickshot says:

    Add soundproof booths to that and an optically opaque barrier between the two. You could have had that debate across two coasts and it would have helped. 

  16. CDW says:

    The BBC has reactions from the UK and Europe.  It's not pretty. 

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54354405

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