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June 17, 2020 06:36 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“The idea of evil is always subject to denial as a coping mechanism.”

–John Bradshaw

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24 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

    1. Five years ago yesterday the OD descended the escalator in Trump Tower to announce his candidacy.  The next evening Dylan Roof murdered five black parishioners of Emanuel AME Church during their bible study.  

      Next week the OD will travel to Tulsa, OK to host a rally in the city that was the scene of the worst white-mob riot in our history,  murdering over 300 black inhabitants and making 9,000 homeless. 

      It's been five years of swirling the drain, seeking a bottom which does not exist with this man. 

      Yes, Trump stinks. Great God Almighty, Trump stinks. 

      Flush this turd Nov. 3

  1. The Economist magazine, in its current June 13-19 issue, has started its election modeling for the 2020 presidential election. After an in-depth analysis; covering all sorts of possibilities, good and bad, affecting both candidates, and understanding that it’s still early; their statisticians give Trump a one chance in five of being re-elected. The magazine will continue to update its models.

    1. The Economist has their model up for viewing here. It is a bit more sophisticated than some others, as it "combines state and national polls with economic indicators to predict a range of outcomes. The midpoint is the estimate of the electoral-college vote for each party on election day." 

      Estimates go back to March 1, when the result was a 269-269 tie.  Today's estimate of Electoral College votes. Biden 341, Trump 197. 

    2. I'm not ready to celebrate

      Like most economic models and forecasts, on of the entering assumptions is that people action rationally

      But people don't.

        1. In my sportswriting days at UPI I loved the story of the boxing manager who always told his fighter he was behind on points and needed a knockout to win.  Even if he lied, it ensured his fighter would go all out.

          I am sad that it won't be hillary throwing the punches.  But if it's Kamala in the ring tag-teaming Joe, we should knock out these bums in the fourth round.

          Or Amy.  

           

            1. I could live with Demings.  A cop or prosecutor, black and female, helps innoculate the ticket against Trump's law and order counter attack.

              And an impeachment manager would make Trump shit his pants!

            2. solid

               

              The hard truth is nowhere near enough voters care about VP anyway
              In this cycle – no one who is going to vote Trump is going to decide to switch because they dislike his VP or love the D VP

              Likewise, no one leaning Biden is going to switch if they aren't a fan of his VP pick

              Less baggage is better and no name rec is fine.

               

              I also think that the VP, win or lose, is the pole position for the '24 nomination and that this should not be a factor in selection.

              I used to like InTrade. PredicIt feels kinda too personal.
               

               

               

              1. A vp may not change minds but the right one — a black woman with solid law enforcement credentials — can help boost turnout in the democra tic base.  It was poor turnout, fed in part by voter sup pression, that cost Hillary the prize.

                And if Demings can help win Florida, Stinky Boy is dead meat!

      1. I'm not celebrating either; and I did note The Economist says it's still early.

        Michael says it best: run like we're 10 points down. 

        "we" = liberals, moderates, unaffiliateds, Never-Trump Republicans, etc.

  2. Didn’t we have an impeachment trial about this kind of behavior? (said with my Susan Collins concerned look)

    Trump asked China’s Xi to help him win reelection, according to Bolton book

    “President Trump asked Chinese President Xi Jinping to help him win the 2020 U.S. election, telling Xi during a summit dinner last year that increased agricultural purchases by Beijing from American farmers would aid his electoral prospects, according to a damning new account of life inside the Trump administration by former national security adviser John Bolton.”

  3. Of course, I voted for Romanoff. I wish that Lorena Garcia or Angela Williams had survived the DSCC blitzkrieg, but they didn’t.

    Hickenlooper is probably a heckuva nice guy, and people do know his name – it’s hard to forget it once you’ve said it a couple of times – but he didn’t want the job, said that he wouldn’t be good at it, his only major platform plank was that he wasn’t a socialist, he did “pay for play” footsie with Anadarko while he was Governor, ignored the wishes of Longmont people to limit fracking within city limits, waffled on marijuana legalization, appointed an oil and gas lobbyist to the Public Utilities Commission, and on and on.

    Still better than Gardner, but what a low bar that is.

    If any readers still need to make up their minds, the Sun has a great “ piece comparing the Senate candidates on the issues.

    1. I'm still waffling.  Neither candidate has done a great deal to impress me on the process approaches I care about or shown a particular ability to take a lead role on some issue in the Democratic Senate caucus.  I think both will try to sway the Senate a bit, but mostly will wind up voting for whatever emerges from the caucus.

      Hickenlooper, who if he won would be a late-sixties "freshman" in the Senate, and one who has never been a legislator (and apparently never wanted to be one), doesn't inspire my enthusiasm.

      If Romanoff can parlay anger at an opponent and activist enthusiasm into a primary win, it hints he may be able to do the same in the general election.  But I'd be more comfortable voting for him if there were a credible poll showing him competitive with Gardner in the general election. 

      I'm certain I will choose in the next few days … either will be a substantial improvement over Gardner;

      1. To your last phrase…amen.

        I can't be my usual flippant self to such an earnest and sensible concern. Polling would be great…maybe that is forthcoming. To me, it is important to go with sincerity.

  4. If you still have your ballot handy, and are in CD7, just a little info on Karla Esser, running unopposed in the Democratic primary for the State Board of Education from CD7:

    Karla is an education professional, a former teacher and principal, now a teacher of teachers at Regis. She is progressive, smart and tough, and very personable and charming as well.

    Her opponent in the general will be well-known GOP gadfly and perennial candidate Nancy Palozzi, who tried not very hard to recall Senator Pettersen, ran not very well for Lakewood City Council Ward 5, and before that ran terribly twice for Pettersen’s Senate seat.

    So remember to send Karla some love in the general election – re-opening schools will take a rational, science based education pro – not Nancy Pallozzi.

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