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June 04, 2020 10:20 AM UTC
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The Colorado Independent Ethics Commission is today conducting — via something called WebEx — an ethics hearing
If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table.
John Hickenlooper refuses to comply with subpoena and court order in ethics case: Colorado Attorney General’s Office says it will enforce subpoena
Did Mr Ferguson vote as part of the 5?
I’m no Hickengrouper, and the ethics charge seemed to me to be pretty small potatoes, but his not showing up means that he is now the guy who defied a subpoena.
Not a good look when people are sick of “Law and Order” Republicans who don’t respect the rule of law for themselves.
Yep … hard to imagine what could have emerged in the testimony that would be more damaging than becoming a politician who doesn't seem to want to attend, was subpoenaed, appealed to a court, lost, and chose to not show up
Not long ago, some of us thought poorly about politicians who didn't respond to a subpoena — even BEFORE taking it to a judge.
Taking that approach as primary ballots will be appearing in mailboxes within a week is — I guess — a bold move. If there isn't a very clear explanation, I'm one voter who will be joining Team Andrew.
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Note to self: Never step foot in a driverless car that's connected to the WebEx interwebs.
The courts of Colorado have been functioning for several months on the Webex platform. There have been advisements, dispositional hearings, sentencings, and many other kinds of hearings – just about everything except jury trials. But Hick doesn’t think it’s fair for his ethics hearing to be held on Webex?
I hope he has a better reason for defying a subpoena.
Yeah, but it's far from ideal. Necessary but not preferred
Not ideal of course. But it has been good enough for the courts of Colorado so that justice is not delayed. Why is it not good enough for Hick? I have yet to hear a good answer to that, and I have yet to hear a good answer re: why the "little people" have to obey a subpoena but Hick does not.
WebEx is fine.
The fault lies with the idiots doing the implementation.
For Alva’s enlightenment, WebEx is a remote meeting platform developed by Cisco as a competitor to Zoom. Some government entities prefer it as it is an American-developed product as opposed to Zoom, which is Chinese made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Webex
Is it too late to subpoena motivational speaker Matt Foley?
That van is gone. RIP
Oh my, Hick's attorney has miraculously decided that his client is now ready to comply with a subpoena and appear, on WebEx, at a hearing at another date. Case must not be going well.
The offer was to have Hick appear, over WebEx, on the 16th. The commission is disinclined, after having experienced Hick's middle finger. "We've had assurances before that he would show, and he didn't"
And, the commission unanimously finds Hick in contempt– they are very unhappy with him. The hearing is continued until tomorrow when they will decide what sanctions will be levied against the ex-governor. These could include a variety of things: financial penalties, assessing costs, deeming evidence presented as proven against him, his defenses stricken.
For anyone shitting on WebEx, the problems were largely the commission staff being overwhelmed by the interest in this case and the usual muting and talking over each other. Some idiot typing in a joke name isn't the hearings. These have been no worse than any business meeting and are no more than we've demanded of our civil and criminal justice systems.
Regardless of the merit of the charges, Hick done fucked this shit up. Incompetence on the part of his advisers, or arrogance. Absolutely amazing. Personally, I was stunned that his lawyer didn't have Hick in another room ready to go on when this started going down. I genuinely thought that would be the play.
Peace, all. See you in November.
Anytime, Psuedo. Nice to hear from you.
That last word.
Giddyup!
Hick's senate campaign is getting as clownish as was his presidential campaign. I can hardly wait to see what he does next to further Gardner's reelection.
Hey, in all fairness, it’s not like a senate run was his first choice . . .
Truth! And, after all, it's not reasonable to expect deftness from the senate campaign of a fellow who's "not cut out to be a senator."