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May 20, 2020 06:30 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“There are lots of people who mistake their imagination for their memory.”

–Josh Billings

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      1. If it's private property and the property owner says wear a mask, one wears the mask. Or one takes their business elsewhere.

        You've heard "no shoes, no shirt, no service?" 

  2. As time goes by, the MAGAts  are getting more and more emboldened. They are a dangerous bunch. Ignorance and grievance don't mix well.

    1. The entire Trump kleptocracy operates like a Mafia organization. Doing something illegal or immoral is part an initiation process: "To prove you are with us, you have to put the kids in cages." Now, you are compromised, and if you don't do whatever we tell you to, we'll cut you loose.

      This runs the show from the  top through the Republican Party down to the Maggats in the street. It's not a conspiracy, it's a strategy. It explains Cohen and Giuliani, McConnell, etc…

  4. WOTD via TPM: "HKU hamster research shows masks effective in preventing Covid-19 transmission"

    A new study (pre-peer review) from Hong Kong suggests that wearing masks is highly effective as slowing the spread of COVID. The study used hamsters – not as comical as it sounds – and the numbers were relatively small. But the study found that masking reduced the transmission by respiratory droplets by as much as 75%. In case you’re wondering, no this wasn’t like some cute animal meme site where they created tiny hamster masks. If I’m understanding the study description, they basically placed masks over the cages. And the cages were next to each other. No masks, 66.7% of the healthy hamsters got COVID after a week. That percentage dropped to 16.7% when masks were placed on the sick and healthy cage. It was 33% when the mask was only on the healthy cage.

    1. Also from TPM:

      A new, very large (over 70,000) and apparently well-designed antibodies (serology) study from Spain suggests that about 5% of Spaniards have been infected with COVID. As in the United States, prevalence varies greatly by region, with a high of 14.2% in Soria province and 11.3% in the Madrid region all the way to under 2% in Asturias, the Canaries and the North Africa enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla. Two key takeaways. This study suggests that roughly 90% of cases go undetected in official government tallies and that the true infection mortality rate is 1.1%. We’ll return to this topic later. But the 90% number is notable since it is broadly in line with other serology studies which show a ‘true’ prevalence of infection usually in the 10x to 12x range compared to official tallies.

  5. Ladies and gentlemen…our #StableGenius (somehow forgetting his slight remodeling of NAFTA into USMCA).  

    Trump suggests ‘terminating’ deals that bring cattle into US

    “I read yesterday where we take some cattle in from other countries because we have trade deals,” Trump said at a White House event to announce the CFAP payments. “I think you should look at terminating those deals. We have trade deals where we actually take in cattle, and we have a lot of cattle in this country, and I think you should look at the possibility of terminating those trade deals.”

    1. Annotated . . . 

      “I [the beginning of every sentence I’ve ever uttered; the only truly important thing in the universe] read [that’s a lie — s/b “heard on FOX news,” or “think I was told by Perdue,” or “was listening again to the voices in my head gut”] yesterday [that’s a lie, his attention span and memory isn’t that good — s/b “maybe five minutes ago”] where we take [s/b “purchase” — the mind of a lifelong thief and taker showing here] some [“maybe 15, … soon will be zero, … could be 100,000, … maybe two million, … who really knows?”] cattle [“bigly planeloads of live cattle flying in from all over everywhere … over the tops of our walls … I’ve seen them landing all over in New Jersey] in from other countries [“illegal immigrant cattle, … no birth certificates … no skills other than rape and murder … marauding gangs of killer, rapist cattle] because we [the sanctuary cities harboring those illegal, criminal moo-moo gangs, or herds, or whatever] have trade deals,”. [You can applaud and cheer wildly for me now, what a good greatest-ever little boy stable-genius President, I’ve been I always am!!!]

    2. So it’s OK to import cattle after they’re dead and cut up? Because we import beef from Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Unless those countries are also now on $rump’s naughty list for trade deals. Even “grass-fed, made in USA” cow flesh is (often) neither.

      Someone brave oughtta break down for the carnivore in chief where on earth his hamberders  come from.

  8. If you can handle watching an attractive woman telling multiple lies a minute, check out the live press briefing by Kayleigh Macenany, the White House press secretary, on Now This Politics) FB) or another outlet.
     

    It seems that $rump is threatening the Sec State of Michigan with legal action, for providing Applications for mail in ballots for Michigan voters.

    It does make it much harder to suppress votes when voting is relatively easy, secure, safe, and leaves a paper trail. 

  9. Those who are about to be doomed to repeat history salute you . . . 
     

    What to Expect When a Coronavirus Vaccine Finally Arrives

    But America’s experience with polio should give us pause, not hope. The first effective polio vaccine followed decades of research and testing. Once fully tested, it was approved with record speed. Then there were life-threatening manufacturing problems. Distribution problems followed. Political fights broke out. After several years, enough Americans were vaccinated that cases plummeted — but they persisted in poor communities for over a decade. Polio’s full story should make us wary of promises that we will soon have the coronavirus under control with a vaccine.

    ———-

    Scientists knew polio was caused by a virus but did not know how it spread. (We know now that it was spread by consumption of food or water contaminated by the virus in fecal matter.) Then, as now, the only way to stay safe was not to be infected. Towns with cases closed movie theaters, pools, amusement parks and summer camps. They canceled long-planned fairs and festivals. Parents kept children close to home. Those who could afford to do so fled to the country. Still, cases mounted. Among three early polio vaccines developed in the 1930s, two proved ineffective, another deadly.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/opinion/coronavirus-vaccine-polio.html

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