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October 08, 2010 03:56 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

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“Thanks to President Obama we’re having the best relations we’ve had in this country since the Rodney King beating. I don’t think that there’s any doubt about it. I don’t think you could find another period in time we could show this much improvement. Well, not even the O.J. trial, no, no, no. I thought about that, but that was just one jury. I mean this: We had a whole nation, I mean guys were being dragged out of their trucks, set on fire, jaws broken, half of cities burned down. We’ve come a long way since the Rodney King beatings, thanks to President Obama.”

–Rush Limbaugh, yesterday

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  1. Michael Savage was a guest this morning on KLZ. he started saying the same old debunked lies straight away. His spew was so rapid fire it was obvious he had stopped listening to himself a long time ago.  

      1. Raising taxes and killing jobs is not the solution to greater government funding.

        ps, I just got the bluebook. After the 1st read I now am having questions regarding my earlier decisions on 60, 61 and 101. I’ll be re-reading the book today and through this weekend while I’m out of town.

        Time to head to DIA, which I note might be paying property taxes if A-60 passes (I think I read that right)

          1. Led by Gov Perdue, who can seem to manage $38 million in overpaid benefits, the NC Democrats continue to support AZ style 1070 legislation … even using their support to attack Repbs.

            BY N.C. POLITICS & GOVERNMENT

            Tags: news | politics | state

            The N.C. Democratic Party is paying for a mailer in a state Senate race that calls for “bringing the Arizona immigration crackdown to North Carolina.”

            The mailer was sent on behalf of Senate candidate David Redwine of Shallotte, who is in a hot campaign with Republican Bill Rabon of Southport for the seat held by retiring Sen. R.C. Soles.

            Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/20…

        2. Battlestations: Pacific Scheduled For Release Today

          Feral Interactive has announced that Battlestations: Pacific for the Mac will be released today. Developed by Square Enix London Studios, the sequel to Battlestations: Midway expands upon the original game with two large campaigns, one based on the actual events of the War in the Pacific and the other a ‘what-if?’ scenario based on the premise of Japanese victory. Battlestations: Pacific features 14 missions for each campaign, over 100 different types of war machines to control, impreoved graphics, and enhanced multiplayer modes.

  2. Here’s the latest:

    The Labor Department says the unemployment rate held at 9.6 percent. The jobless rate has now topped 9.5 percent for 14 straight months, the longest stretch since the 1930s.

    The private sector added 64,000 jobs, the weakest showing since June.

    Local governments cut 76,000 jobs last month, most of them in education. That’s the largest cut by local governments in 28 years. And, 77,000 temporary census jobs ended in September.

    Nearly 14.8 million people were unemployed last month. That’s almost 100,000 fewer than in August

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/201…

    3. We don’t have better jobs growth because the financial sector is trying to starve the Obama administration, just like the DeKlerk government and the banks in South Africa did to Nelson Mandela.

      Small business people (and I don’t mean the Koch brothers) can’t get loans anymore because we operate on stated income and not a wage or salary. When the financial industry melted down because of the greed of the wealthy and the opportunism of Bushco, Inc., the banks stopped the practice.

      My wife and I own a company that has been profitable for 12 years. We have real estate assets, CDs in the bank, and credit in the 800s. We can’t get a mortgage unless one of us gets a wage-based or salaried job, which, I guess is supposed to be more secure than our consistently profitable company.

      The problem is that, if we can’t get a mortgage, we can’t get a construction loan to build our next house. Ergo, we cannot spend the hundreds of thousands of dollars that would help to secure employment for many. Multiply that effect and you see that the impact of the decision by banks to restrict lending nationwide (even to immenently qualified people), has had a tremendous dampening effect on our economy.

      This is just one small way that the Republican Corporatists are trying to destroy Obamas’ administration.

      The U.S.Chamber of Commerce has become the enemy of the nation. They are a tool of international Big Money.

      And… you, sir, are a joke.    

      1. Excellent post!

        The problem is far to complicated for greedy corporate shills like H-man to comprehend.

        (blame Obama is the best they can do)  Facts Truth and Reality are the enemy of the tea bag republicans.  

        1. dukeco1 could expand his business into residential home development, surely his profitable business can get a construction loan for this home development.

          $1 trillion in stimuluated bailouts and we have nothing to show for it … right senator bennet?

      2. The same clowns who caved on financial reform?

        You identified the problem.

        The solution is obvious.

        The will to lead is missing in action.

        How much money has Bennet received from the Banking industry?

        Do you really think the problem is a bunch of people not acting in their financial interest just so they can make the Dems look bad.  The Dems don’t need any help in that regard.

        The Dems set up a system that does not incentivize the behavior that needs to be encouraged.

        Personal insults aside, what part of this don’t you get?

        1. “Who is it that set the terms and conditions of the bank bailout money and has the ability to condition participation in federal programs?”

          President Obama. Please He-man, don’t fail to mention those “restrictions” require paying back those funds with interest. As well as the bailout and Stimulus is actually proving to be profitable to us the tax payers.

          gee NO wasted funds.

          Those pesky details, derail your talking points.

          I get it DO YOU? Frankly the voters aren’t as stupid as tea bag republicans hope we are.

          1. The federal government basically shovelled money to Wall St and then said “please be reasonable.” Big surprise that instead the banks borrow from the treasury at 0%, lend back to the federal government for a couple of points, and tell the country to go piss up a rope.

            And our Democratic Congress & Administration has performed a lot of hand wringing, but has not taken any real action. Now the Republicans are even more in bed with the banks, but that doesn’t excuse our Democratic members for being only a part-time whore for the banks.

        2. That’s a very curious position for a Republican to take. You’re telling us that the federal govt should tell banks who to lend to and under what conditions.

          You might want to think before you type.

          1. What I am saying is the government loans banks money at 0% interest and has other sources of money attached to federal policy that the Banks may or may not choose to participate in.  If the participation in those voluntary programs was conditioned on a certain level of performance like making loans to small business you would encourage the behavior.

            I am not suggesting that the conditions be a condition of the bank operating, just in participating in programs which they would voluntarily like to participate in.

              2. You want clowns ? Because I got your clown right here:

                And after this infamous moment of breathtaking stupidity you all want to critique some dudes bad debate.  Sheesh.

        3. The part I don’t get is the part that is true, ’cause none of it is. It’s just prattle. All around you is EVIDENCE (yes, I am shouting for H-mans benefit) that the economy has been rescued by the TARP and the Stimulus Act (don’t recall the acronym, just now).

          Yet you chatter incessantly, repeating the same old bullshit, day in, day out. Your inflated sense of self importance is rivaled only by your irritating prediliction for hypocrisy. I don’t care who or what you are…your prose is mind-numbingly asinine.

          I go to the trouble of calling you an idiot to get your attention long enough to try to help you see a path to relevance. Wise up young grasshopper; follow the path of your comrade, the Libby One, the Tadpole hisself. Seek his counsel.

          Stay sweet.

    4. Dems: The Stimulus and TARP programs worked!

      GOP: No, they didn’t. We said so on Talk Radio.

      Dems: You’re Right! Let’s run away from that issue!

      The TRUTH:

      Don’t tell anyone, but TARP and stimulus both came in under budget

      It’s a good day for much-vilified government programs. New data suggests that the TARP and stimulus initiatives, favorite targets of anti-government activists, have been far more successful than previously thought. TARP – aka the Troubled Asset Relief Program –  is on track to cost taxpayers $50 billion. That’s less than the annual budget of the Department of Homeland Security and just one-fourteenth of the $700 billion price tag in bailout funds administered through the program. And the stimulus package, according to a new report from Vice President Joe Biden (so grab a grain of salt), pushed money into the economy faster than hoped and with less fraud, abuse, and waste than expected.

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_…

      The money quote:

      Given its impact – a wide consensus of economists agree that it staved off the complete collapse of the U.S. financial sector – TARP is likely one of the more successful government program in recent decades. “This is the best federal program of any real size to be despised by the public like this,” one Brookings Institution scholar told the Times

    5. 1. The net government “stimulus” has been virtually zero. Reason? Cutbacks on state and local spending (read: payrolls) have offset federal measures. The numbers in this very post make the point (paragraph 3)! Another view here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10… . On this issue, comrades, we’re talking numbers, not opinions about what should or should not have happened. Nor is this a purely partisan issue; I’ve been critical of our junior senator for months for speaking out against more stimulus.

      2. I haven’t seen any persuasive evidence to rebut the proposition that, on balance, the middle class tried to sustain its collective life-style over the past decade by borrowing. Although I have argued that household finances are quite different than government finance, it’s also true that collective spending (personal + government)–however financed–in an economy creates a certain level of demand, which translates directly into employment. The financial crash, brought on largely by the real estate crash, caused households to cut back drastically on borrowing. Result: a major diminution of spending financed by debt. Lower interest rates manipulated by the Fed are meant to counter this trend; so far, it hasn’t happened, at least in part because corporations are hoarding cash. http://blog.aflcio.org/2010/10… (among many other sources).

      I suppose there is a name for the practice of relating everything back to one’s own obsession, but it doesn’t come to mind. Drought? Obama. Car won’t start? Obama. Burnt toast? Obama. Whatever the description, “rational analysis” isn’t it.

      Some (not all) right-wing commentators on this site are capable of better than this. And, comrades, be careful lest your schadenfreude show in public.

      1. In the one-two punch many had long been fearing, hiring by businesses has slowed significantly while government jobs are disappearing at a record pace.

        Companies added 64,000 jobs last month, after having added 93,000 jobs in August, the Labor Department reported Friday. But over all, the economy shed 95,000 nonfarm jobs in September, the result of a 159,000 decline in government jobs at all levels. Local governments in particular cut jobs at the fastest rate in almost 30 years.

        (Only about half the loss of government jobs were census workers.)

        http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10…

    6. If you look, you see that local government job cuts outpaced actual GROWTH in private sector employment. So, when your dear Amendments 60, 61 and Prop. LOL pass, cutting that “bloated” government, who are you going to blame for the increased unemployment rate then?

  3. from 9 News

    Larry Miller Dealership in Lakewood is where Meyer took his car. A service manager there confirmed the car was repaired for damage caused by rodents or rabbits.

    He also confirmed that the dealership has seen at least a handful of cars come in recently with the owners saying their car warning lights came on after being parked at DIA.

      2. we could have found another $10 billion PER MONTH foreign escapade that we could have used to shovel money into the maw of Haliburton.  When it comes to “guns or butter” why is it that liberals can always be counted on to choose “butter”?  Obviously you people haven’t been reading your NRA brochures.

    3. who remembers that one of the local TV stations did this story a year or two ago? This is not a new problem; it’s only a new problem when someone new complains about it. DIA has failed to deal with this problem for years.

    1. (in the comments following the story) from Mike F

      Great businessmen focus on bulding a better mousetrap. Failed businessmen spend their time about taxes.

  6. Duke student’s “horizontal academics research” PowerPoint goes viral

    Upon graduating, the author decided to pass on the wisdom she had learned, in thesis format. The subject: “An education beyond the classroom: excelling in the realm of horizontal academics.” The thirteen subjects are each preceded by a tableau of photos of the men, most of which seem to be pulled from Facebook and athletic action shots. (There are lots of athletes on the list, including many players from Duke’s lacrosse team, whose behavior has come under scrutiny in the past, though they were cleared of wrongdoing.)

  7. to be pissed.  Look at all the damage President Obama has done to Rush’s pet program of improving race relations in America.  Rush almost had us to freedom and equality, and then along comes Obama with all his liberal Jim Crow plans to set the country back.  Gosh, if only we would vote for all those Republican Lincolns who will get things moving right again.

      1. when for almost two years now President Obama’s has completely failed to embrace the plight of the dozens of severely oppressed white billionaires in this country.

        Good American’s like Rush can’t ignore this travesty any longer — all good Republicans now understand that it’s a matter of simple human decency.

        (And, to finally set the record straight, the NFL wanted Rush badly . . . . he just had a little problem with finding some clean urine to pass the drug screening test.)

    2. Newer folks like Glenn Beck seem to be geting all the attention. I have a feeling the Rush demo must be averaging about 80 by now. If a big fat idiot falls in his studio and only people who are very hard of hearing hear, does it still make a giant thud and splat?

      1. Ann Coulter was the big lightning rod for much of the past decade, but she’s faded bigtime. (Was there some scandal that cost her credibility with the wingnuts? For some reason I’m thinking something had.) Beck took over her spot there.

        He’s completely nuts, but at least he has more to his schtick than bashing liberals.

  8. FBI demands it’s tracker back

    A California student got a visit from the FBI this week after he found a secret GPS tracking device on his car, and a friend posted photos of it online. The post prompted wide speculation about whether the device was real, whether the young Arab-American was being targeted in a terrorism investigation and what the authorities would do.

    1. Real liberty loving Americans know that them dang A-rabs is all terrorists. And the FBI and other law enforcement agencies will never get warrantless tracking devices placed on patriots’s cars, just those dang terrorist socialist communist fascist pinko terrorists!

    1. …when one of them stops to pick up something on the sidewalk.

      The second economist asks “What did you find?”

      The first economist stand up holding something. “Look! It’s a $100 bill!. What a lucky find!”

      The second economist shakes his head and says “nah, it can’t be real. You’re wrong.”

      The first economist gets mad and asks “Why would you say that? It looks like a $100 bill.”

      The second economist says “It couldn’t be! IF it was a real $100, somebody else would’ve picked it up already.”

  10. I have just come from the  eye doctor, checking out the retinas.  All is stable.  But, I have to cut out the head butting…so no more responding to the above.

      1. Look, I purposely have not identified myself by gender or race or religion. I want to keep it that way.  I have identified myself by age (the contest I won with you) and by party…. I am a POD…pissed off Democrat.

        But, boy do I really understand how the President feels about suddenly having who you are questioned.

        Enough.  For both Barry and me.

        1. Not only are you a hateful schmuck, the worst our country has to offer, but you’re also a dullard incapable of coming up with a comeback that isn’t essentially the same as the cutting remark directed at you. It’s a symptom of your inability to think for yourself.

          1. You call me a hateful schmuck, a dullard, and admit you make cutting remarks toward me. Then, you fault me for not doing the same toward you. Who’s the hateful schmuck again?

            1. The only thing I fault you for is having no wit or originality. Well, and being a hateful schmuck and a dullard, but it’s redundant to talk about that.

              How’s your research coming along? Find one single, solitary piece of evidence to back up any of the claims you made about your fellow Americans on the other thread?

                1. I’ve got a great web site for BJ.

                  Actually worth a diary of its own just to give him a place to post 1 comment and 50 responses to other people who call him full of shit.

                  Except it’s Catholic (Sort of–like lunatic fringe Catholic).  I’m not sure how Beej feels about Catholics.

                  http://www.catholicintl.com/ga…

                  Well worth a read.

                  1. I got that out of him some time back. He didn’t tell me what denomination he is (and I didn’t ask because that, like everything else he’s revealed about himself, is none of my business), but it’s clear that it’s one of those born-again sects where all the members are certain they’re “saved” and everyone else is damned.

                    1. I believe that to be saved you have to believe that you are a sinner, that Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sins, and place your faith in him for the forgiveness of sins. That’s about as exclusive as it gets; I do believe many Catholics are Christians. Theologically I lean towards Reformed theology but I’m not all the way there.

                    4. What does “non/inter” mean? Aside from the self-contradictory meaning of the two prefixes, what does it mean to you?

                      I get the impression you don’t really know WHAT you believe. Your content here seems to be derived from the brains of others and forwarded to us a a representation of what you think. Try actually cogitating…you might come to enjoy it someday.

                      One of my favorite expressions, Beej, is: “Question everything.” That should include the right wing blabbermonkeys that seem to be the source of much of your material. I happily question the extreme right as much as I challenge the extreme left, for I believe that extreme conservatism is no more conservative than extreme liberalism is progressive.

                      Civilisation is based on give and take…not just take. It’s simple.

                    5. I’m not actually on the extreme right. I know plenty of people that are more conservative than me.

                      I do know exactly what I believe and it is a well thought out position based on logic, not emotion. I mean non/inter in the sense that I don’t think you have to be one specific denomination to be a Christian. There are certain fundamental truths you must believe to be a Christian, but beyond that it’s just quibbling about details. Ideally, there should be just one Christian church as there was in the days of the early church, but humans are flawed and have divided based on different interpretations of Scripture.  

                    6. Read Elaine Pagels “The gnostic gospels” for a start.  And don’t forget that Jesus’ brother, James, led the church in Jerusalem after its death, where it functioned as essentially a reform Judaism.  It was not until Paul’s letter to the Galatians that some followers of Jesus broke wholly with Judaism — and there were many branches.

                    7. I can’t call it gay marriage – I know plenty of gay people who got married. Just not to their life partner.

  14. 10.Accidentally said something positive about a Democrat

    9.News ticker reads “Bosses crazy, send help”

    8.Today’s top story: Is there anything more delicious than bacon?

    7.Been criticizing Obama for not doing enough to prevent World War I

    6.Bill O’Reilly inviting guests to enter the “No Pants Zone”

    5.Crime stories eerily similar to plot of most recent “Hawaii Five-O”

    4.Spent five hours today breaking down the Mets playoff chances

    3.Thinking about hiring Rick Sanchez

    2.Since June, Glenn Beck has been doing this nonstop (VT of Beck barking)

    1.They’re thinking of giving the 10pm slot to Leno

  15. Republicans favor strip club over freedom of religion.

    You can’t make this shit up…

    A new survey from the Democratic-affiliated firm Public Policy Polling finds that more Republicans support constructing a strip club than a mosque near Ground Zero.

    Just four percent of Republican respondents said they support building a mosque two blocks from the site, whereas 21 percent said they would be fine with a strip club. Forty-nine percent of Democrats said they supported the mosque and 33 for the strip club. Among Independents, it was 34 percent for the mosque and 28 percent for the strip club.

    http://publicpolicypolling.blo…

      1. and the agreement with them by some “lifeforms” lower than scum, it would appear that Republicans would favor more Ground Zeros near Ground Zero rather than a mosque.

        (I’m not sure where additional Ground Zeros rate when compared with a strip club.)

  17. So, so, so many OTOHs and granteds here, but…

    My campaign conducted polling this past week by contacting 1200 voters in Eagle, Garfield and Pitkin counties. A recent poll done in Gunnison County by a private organization (for a different candidate) filled out the numbers to show that I am polling at 43%, the democrat at 34%, and the republican at 22% using a weighted average based on the number of voters from each county.

    Unless I’m reading the awkwardly written sentence incorrectly, it is at least partly her poll.  And I don’t trust the average voter to know the difference between Maes and the Real Conservative, so how can I really count on any to spell Curry correctly?  Still pretty cool.

    Since it’s not my district, I have nothing to say.  Just sharing news.

    http://kathleencurry.org/?p=1375

      1. All politics is local.

        She’s lived in her district for a long time.  It’s a rural district.  People know her well enough to say “hi” to her on the street.

        She represents her district well, carrying bills that her constituents care about and understand.  She’s been a great legislator for them.

        In short, if she’s successful, the “How” will be all about being a friendly, well-known, competent, and caring public servant.  Sometimes it’s more about the candidate than about the politics.  It should be like that more often.

        And I’d be very surprised if part of her campaign expenditures weren’t dedicated to sending a “slate card” to every voter in her district telling them exactly how to do the write-in thing.

        I hope she pulls it off.

  18. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes…

    A snippet:

    endorsement in a blistering statement issued by Mr. Raggio, in which he criticized Sharron Angle and supported Mr. Reid.

    The statement from the veteran lawmaker assailing Ms. Angle, a fellow Republican and Tea Party favorite, and “her extreme and often even radical ideas and positions,” was big news in the Silver State.

    “What is difficult to overlook is her record of being totally ineffective as a four-term assemblywoman, her inability or unwillingness to work with others, even within her own party, and her extreme positions on issues such as Medicare, Social Security, education, veterans affairs and many others,” his two-page statement read. “I am lifelong Republican and unlike Ms. Angle, I have never changed parties. I have always supported Jeffersonian principles of free enterprise, low taxes, limited government and fiscal responsibility.”

    He concluded that he was “unable to support Sharron Angle” because “we need someone in the U.S. Senate who can be effective, work with others, and best represent the interests of our state.”

    2. I have family in Nevada- Dema Guinn’s endorsment is going to count a lot more with them than the mayor of Reno.  If they can get past the juice thing – I mean, really, who wouldn’t want juice?

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