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October 05, 2010 09:36 PM UTC
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Don’t ever forget that. Voters wanted her in. There is no reason for this expensive recall. Don’t even get me started on the sexism that is motivating this limp effort.
Did s/he participate in Bennet’s sketchy bet with Wall Street bankers that will cost DPS another $115 million to fix?
Understanding that will help me weigh my position on this Democrat recall.
and be sure to let us know what you find.
Libertad is Jose Silva!
I don’t care about your position on this recall.
🙂
that’s mean to both Jose and Libby.
two birds, one stone
It wasn’t cool of MOTR to out Silva. If that comment is his, and there are other people in Denver named Silva, it did not say his first name.
I will refrain from commenting on the Silva – Merida battle since I do not have a dog in the Denver School Board fight.
In all fairness, I think MOTR is wrong about Silva though. Silva is a very young, idealistic, Obama-generation, activist. He did great work organizing young people in Denver to get involved in the political process, and he is well-intentioned. He wants what is best for the city and county of Denver, as well as its school board.
Assassinating the character of either of these people is NOT time well-spent, IMHO.
He had repeatedly, in other posts, said who he was and what he did. I was concerned enough about it to redact the name Jose from Denver Jose in the original post. But MoTR noted he had operated fully openly in his posts, so I put it back in.
Get your facts straight before you accuse me of outing someone, Nancy. I don’t take kindly to that kind of bullshit.
He told everyone who he was from his first comment at DenverPols.
His webpage listed on his bio on denverpols lists his former website for his HD5 run.
His first comment is in a diary about himself:
How am I assassinating Silva? I’m reprinting facts from the Secretary of State’s office. Seems to me as a taxpayer and deep lover of children the world around, you would be somewhat concerned with the fact that he is spearheading an effort that is going to cost the Denver Public School system a small fortune, while he continues to refuse to pay back the state of Colorado over $27,700.
But according to you, he’s a good guy, well intentioned, so no story here, right?
Perhaps you ought take Silva’s word for being a good guy with a grain of salt and reread this diary because I would dearly love to know why the guy is running around Denver claiming to be running for House District 5, why he has nearly $28 grand in fines and penalties, why he has never filed a single campaign report in 14 months, why he refuses to deal with any of the delinquency claims, why he refuses to make restitution, why he has been gunning for Merida long before the Senate primary.
Apparently, curiosity is not part of your natural make up.
Your personal attacks on me just indicate a deep need for revenge on Silva for some reason. I don’t know him well enough to get sucked into your personal vendetta against the guy. I’m just saying the little I know of him was pretty positive.
If you are going to slander and assassinate anyone, provide evidence and know that other people have other evidence. No one is either 100% good or 100% bad. Everyone is a mix. I’m just providing what I know, and you can provide what you know, and other people can make up their own minds.
The same is true of Merida. She clearly has her fans (some here) and many people who really don’t like her. That’s the nature of throwing one’s hat into the “public square”. You’re going to have your fans and your foes.
I don’t have a dog in the Denver School Board fight. I was just contributing my own perspective here, like everyone else.
Go bite off someone else’s head, MOTR.
I didn’t read any personal attacks in that comment. What I read was a factual defense against your accusation of “outing.”
from reading her reply, that Nancy actually reads what people write back to her or for that matter, bothers to click on links much.
Just try to make your points without them, MOTR. You will be much more credible if you do.
If MOTR wants to make a point, he can do it without making it about the person he is arguing with. That’s all I’m saying.
I made my point pretty clear — I don’t know Silva well, but the times my organizing work has overlapped with his, it’s been positive. I will refrain from listing my run-ins with Merida — they have not been at all positive. I respect her for her passion. That’s all I can say about that.
I give people the benefit of the doubt. A person has to be pretty shitty for me to say something bad about them, especially on a statewide blog. Everyone has good qualities and bad qualities. There are political personalities in every community that serve their communities with passion and sincerity who have their own personal problems. In fact, there are NONE who are flawless. We’re all human.
That was my only point. I don’t enjoy public hangings of anyone — no matter who they are.
People who run for political office — no matter how simple-minded or evil some of them may be (INSERT BUSH/CHENEY/PALIN IMAGES HERE) — automatically get a tiny amount of respect from me, just by virtue of the fact they put their neck out there. Running for office is not easy. We sit here on Pols and criticise folks left and right, but the vast majority of us are too chicken to do what they did. I admire people who put their money — and their time and their energy and their reputations — on the line to serve the public. Someone’s gotta do it.
We should all be so courageous.
But the first example cited what you wrote, not you as a person.
The second isn’t negative at all, IMHO. It was a compliment. She called you a deep lover of children.
The third was speculation. She used the word “apparently,” not “obviously.”
None of them were personal attacks. Now if she had called you (or me, or anyone else) a dumb SOB, that would have been a personal attack.
This whole diary is a personal attack against Silva and anyone who had a different experience with the guy than MOTR’s.
Tone is everything, and without hearing a person’s voice, it is hard to know how sarcastic, nasty, or perhaps not at all, they might be. It also helps if you know the person personally. You may know MOTR and know how she would speak in person. I don’t know anything about her. This is the first I’ve even heard she is a “Her”. I took her words to be sarcastic, but maybe that was not the tone she intended. You obviously have a history with MOTR I do not have, so you can give her the benefit of the doubt. I got nothin’.
Why does anyone have to get trashed? Merida? Silva? Me?
Merida and Silva clearly have baggage with each other. Why does ANYONE have to take sides?
This guy is quickly panning out to be pretty far from your initial, cursory examination of him. It might be a good idea to hang back and see what comes out, instead of making allusions to encounters that “haven’t been all that positive.” Why kick up any dust on this at all?
All this makes you sound like you have in fact chosen sides. Doesn’t the fact that this bozo could cost the Denver taxpayers a ton of cash mean anything? Why not just wait until the next election, especially since no laws were broken.
I would venture to say that your take on this could have something to do with your side of the primary. I hope not. It would be unfortunate, because you’re infinitely more intelligent than this bozo with an ax to grind.
I’m calling for something other than a lynch mob for either side.
This guy owes the State of Colorado nearly $30K in fines, all because he doesn’t have the smarts to just CLOSE his account.
I don’t care if he was Mother Theresa in his youth. This looks like he’s trying to get someone to pay his fines, if not just outright sexism and machismo, and here you are defending the guy. Aren’t you a feminist and a progressive?
And then you make backhanded comments about “encounters.” I’d say that’s a passive-aggressive lynch mob mentality if anything.
You haven’t paid attention to anything I’ve written.
in this long, meandering and unnecessarily vituperative posts. This is far beneath your usual quality contribution. Are you the victim of identity theft by Libertad?
The vitriol started here, a blog I missed when I was out of town. Guess I jumped into a pit of snakes while out berry-picking.
http://coloradopols.com/diary/…
and since you have such beef with Merida, you’re invested in anyone attacking her. It’s not hard to see that. I understand that you’ve been wounded by Andrea but siding with Silva when the glaring facts show that he’s a crooked kook isn’t helping your cause AT ALL.
Just because you don’t like Andrea doesn’t mean that with the more fervor someone dislikes her makes them more fervently correct… or something.
This topic is not at all related to your interpersonal issues with Andrea. This diary is not a personal attack on Silva. Please see the links.
If a politician, OH WAIT Silva still neurotically calls himself a politician, were to do the things this diary cites him as having done, you’d be all over it, calling him nasty names.
Reread the diary and insert the word “Romanoff” wherever you see Jose Silva and then check your emotional thermometer. Let us know what it reads.
I didn’t defend Jose’s actions. I stated I don’t know him well… twice. I never said there wasn’t a story here.
My original comment was innocent enough. I simply said that I had some good things to contribute about Silva. If anyone here was under the microscope and I had good things to say about you, I would have done the same for you. I would for anyone.
I barely mentioned Merida. She is not worth my time.
My comments didn’t have anything to do with Merida, Romanoff, or anyone else, and they didn’t attack anyone. Go back and read them.
I’m sorry my comments were boring, V.
Sufi and Oz are so hell-bent on defending Merida, they will kill the character of anyone in their path.
Frankly, there is a lot of heat in this Merida-Silva thing, and I’m a little tired of being your scapegoat, folks.
Hang ’em all. Pick your side and bloody each other up. I don’t care.
thy name is Cronk.
you are more of a troll than I and I am humbled.
You don’t need help from anyone else.
Heated language does not automatically equal personal attacks. And MOTR’s earned TONS of respect here, and your patronizing attitude about that is only costing you in that area.
I recognize your own passion and viewpoint on this matter, and your own observations bring some balance to the issue. But you’ve also demonstrated your own willingness to get embroiled in petty pissing contests on this site, so I’d advise you not to be too quick to criticize others or remark on how their credibility is affected by less than stellar behavior.
I give up. Bash away. Eat your own. Again. I’m out of here.
Speak the truth, get accused of “bashing.”
It is not brave to be Jose Silva. Do you think Tom Tancredo is brave? No, he is a glory hound, the same as Silva is.
I give a little credit to anyone who runs. Anyone. Go back under your rock, will ya.
Don’t act surprised, Nancy hardly ever has her facts straight before she makes accusations. Be comforted by the fact that it’s not just you!
Nice try, though.
Jose is really that bad?
🙂
But he has posted here.
but that is saying a lot!
🙂
She was elected after this action. She is the only board member who had not been elected when the vote for this transaction was taken, and who has questioned the transaction and asked for more information and oversight.
Mary Seawell, Nate Easley and Andrea Merida were all elected after the deal.
You are absolutely right. Here is my total comment.
Easley and Seawell have not openly criticized the deal. Merida, Kaplan and Jimenez have. Of those three, who questioned the transaction and asked for more information and oversight. Merida is the only one who was not on the BOE when that vote was taken.
What is it about him and going after women that win? What is this, like his 6th time running for something and losing?
No biggie, right?
Great diary, Middle. I hope Dwyer sees this.
how grateful I am to her for being an even handed and sane voice on this subject. I hope she sees it, too.
I once wrote “I assume you’re male” and wasn’t contradicted.
Seriously, what are you referring to, dwyer? You’re one of my favorite people on this blog and this is truly news to me.
If I’ve offended you in any way, I’m flat out apologizing, without reservation or excuse.
XX or XY?
I knew, but thanks.
Sorry, I wasn’t very clear there. I meant Dwyer. She’s a gal.
Now I’m really confused.
Dwyer is a woman.
Hear us roar.
Now, ColoPols wants a birth certificate?
We’ll settle for a chromosome test…
I called JO an idiot once, and wasn’t contradicted either;-)
that you don’t have to redact Jose’s name since he told everyone on DenverPols who he was in other comments.
but considering Steve Harvey was banned for outing BJwilson83 as BJ Wilson, and quoting stuff about the Beej that the beej had posted, I just didn’t want to go there.
As I recall, the BJ stands for Bouncing Jehosophat!
I just wanted to be sure you knew that he was not being outed in any way by me.
I unredacted the redaction. If he identified who he was on the blog, that;s fine. The Steve Harvey thing with the beej went well beyond that, it was a strident thing keyed to a threatened lawsuit, in short, more an act of intimidation than an outing.
Pols has made it clear we are to refer to people only as their screen name, even if they outed themselves countless times before. Some people do not want their real names easily searchable on the internet because of jobs/offices, or because we should not be afraid to have honest conversations here without being overly paranoid about the internet. That’s why a lot of us have made our names one, like this:
nancycronk
instead of
Nancy Cronk
I am not as paranoid as some (that’s why I don’t use a screen name). I am proud of my liberal views.
You don’t have to agree with Pols, or with me or anyone else, but you do have to follow Pols’ rules, or risk getting kicked off. Ask Steve Harvey. He learned the hard way.
because I don’t want to get you ensnared in the anti-outing rule and exiled to Colorado Confluence.
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Was supposedly going to create some sort of comment system. Maybe they’ll address that too.
Weren’t we supposed to get some kind of wonderful surprise along with the new terms of service? Or was giving the beej a “hundred posts a day” quota the treat for everyone? In which case, oh boy!
You could hire it out as a set for a Hickenlooper ad.
it is way too easy yet not common enough for folks to get recalled in CO
I read a very lengthy article in Westword last week re Merida. She should have immediately disclosed her work for AR and she seems pretty hard to get along with. She seems to have a larger agenda. Yet she also appears to be trying to represent her district and kids in DPS.
I would hope, if I lived in that district, for a better candidate next time. But, if one did not emerge I’d feel OK voting for her.
and one I would reiterate. Bad judgment does not rise to the level of recall and this is a gross misuse of taxpayer time and dollar.
If folks don’t like her, they can run a candidate against her in the next election and vote accordingly. But Silva is clearly seeking revenge for a personal vendetta and folks need to know who they are aligning themselves with.
I am not eligible ot either vote for Merida or sign any recall petition as I live in a different DPS district (Dr Easely’s), but I think this recall effort was a waste from the beginning.
Maybe she pissed people off on day one by demanding to take her seat immediately so she could vote on an issue of apparently great import to her. But that is not an impeachable offense and neither is simple poor judgement for not disclosing her paid work for Romanoff (although she was already an acknowledged supporter and advocate for Andrew).
Thansk fo the balanced perspective.
That’s where I’m coming from–she hasn’t done a damn thing to deserve a recall and what makes this so much worse is the effort is being led by a guy with a vendetta and far worse ethics issues, including running around pretending he’s the Democratic candidate for HD5 while he owes $30K to our state for his failed campaign.
Just a clarification request, I live in HD5 and my memory says that the primary was between Duran & Mark Thrun…two other candidates didn’t make it past the Democratic Caucus process, one of which I think was Jose Silva. So is it correct to say that he lost to Duran in the Primary?
Other questions are great and worth followup. Thanks for bringing it up for discussion.
Then why is his committee still active? He could have saved himself a ton of money by terminating his committee right then and there.
He received one vote, which promptly precluded him from being on the Dem primary ballot. After alleging party favoritism, he then tried to petition onto the ballot as an unaffiliated candidate. Like many of his electoral escapades, this too failed.
Only Thrun and Duran made it until the end fo the primary. HD5 had a whole slate of really great people. I was glad I wasn’t in their district — it would have been very tough to decide.
I’m sure if someone called you and told you how important you are it would have been easy to decide. If they invited you out for coffee you might have just worked for them.
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Thrun and Duran are two awesome candidates, personally I was going for Thrun but Duran will be a great representative. Silva has always been someone who is looking for some kind of fame or glory, that does not a good candidate make.
This is a good diary. It is factual and addresses an important issue.
I hope that there is a follow-up. Last Friday (Thursday?) the recall people submitted their third attempt at getting a petition approved and were finally successful.
As I understand it, they will have to post their contributors within ten days. That will be telling. If they don’t post, I hope that Merida files a complaint.
I promise you that, Dwyer. I’m keeping an eye on Silva.
Silva was very upset when Duran jumped into the HD-5 race last December, somehow believing he was entitled to the seat as the “community’s voice.” Merida’s endorsement clearly added fuel to his fire but I don’t think he has been “gunning” for her ever since. Silva actually endorsed Duran this summer (and had the audacity to claim it resulted in her victory over Thrun). I think the petition contribution report, which dywer mentions above, will be the tell tale sign of Silva’s underlying motivation in this escapade.
Silva hasn’t exactly set a good example getting his own reports filed.
But that is about facts. This diary is about lynching anyone who has concerns about Andrea Merida’s leadership, apparently.
If it were only about the money needed for a recall, I could totally get behind it. Denver cannot afford a recall.
…with the “lynching” references.
This diary is a universe away from what you’re trying to invoke with that reference – really.
Nancy overreacted to MOTR’s initial response, and has been playing the persecuted victim ever since.
Nancy – look at the identities of the people who are taking you to task – your friends and allies.
When one person, and only one, says your screwing up, they likely have it wrong. But when a lot of different people all say the same thing, chances are that they’re speaking the truth.
So chill out. Okay?
I think you’re piping up because Merida stepped on your tender toes. I think that if Charles Manson wanted to recall her, you’d find a reason to support such an effort.
Seriously. Admit it.
assuming, of course, that he paid her to endorse him…
Your guy won. Let it go already.