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May 11, 2020 06:36 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“No one is really miserable who has not tried to cheapen life.”

–David Starr Jordan

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  1. RIP Richard Wayne Penniman.

    Also:

    As for the Republicans — how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical 'American heritage'…) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.

    That Lovecraft quote is something like 85 years old.

      1. Yeah, That's what I thought when I saw this yesterday. As my next-door neighbor says, "At what point did this seem like a good idea?".

         

    3. Colorado restaurant illegally reopens with no social distancing and hundreds of customers

      The comments section is running heavily against this little brunch clique.

      Neville was there but the only gun in sight was strapped to the bouncer at the door. This is Castle Rock celebrating their freedumb to get sick and/or die. What a letdown!!!

      Time for some facial recognition and contact tracing.

      The fix? Since there is no sports programming on the in-house TV now, pipe in live video from the local hospitals ICU or ER.

    4. I was sent the video of this crime yesterday, and have been thinking long about it.

      My first reaction was nothing but contempt for the owners, and this stunt.  Their actions have endangered thousands, in my community and throughout Colorado, not just the couple of hundred “brave” fools who were not “afraid” to be within six feet of other fools.  Their claim to the “right” to endanger thousands, because “freedom,” is as hollow and ridiculous and dangerous as someone claiming the “right” to drive against traffic on any highway or interstate, because “freedom.”

      This morning I read this seemingly unrelated article:

      What Happened to the Original 1 Percent?

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/11/opinion/inequality-history.html

      with this:

      Historians and archaeologists don’t know all the reasons these cities collapsed. But there is evidence that both burned to the ground in the 1100s B.C.E., their sumptuous palaces toppled and abandoned. There are signs of earthquakes, too. For centuries after these events, there are almost no written records. It was as if literacy and culture evaporated along with the kingdoms themselves.

      Until recently, historians blamed this collapse on marauders known as the Sea People. Supposedly these Sea People sacked the cities, leaving the once-great kingdoms of the Mediterranean to be menaced by pirates or worse.

      New research has challenged this whole story. Eric Cline, a classicist at George Washington University and author of “1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed,” explained that there’s no evidence of invaders coming from the outside at Mycenae, so violence must have come from within. Given what’s known about these societies, he concludes that the city’s lower classes may have gotten fed up and burned it all down. Josephine Quinn, an archaeologist at University of Oxford, agrees. “The whole Bronze Age system produces a lot of discontent,” she told me.

      I’m still highly contemptuous of the Arrellano’s and their actions; livid, in fact.

      But, now I also have a deeper understanding of what happens when “no hope” leads some to selfishly choose, and justify, their “fuck it, I’m-going-down-so-why-not-take-everything-else-with-me-in-the-fire” mentality.  Why care about anybody else, when nobody cares about what happens to me? — When you and everyone you see desperately need help, and all you get is ineptitude, and stupidity, and posing, and lies, and grasping self-dealing?  The failure of leadership and government and society and community (after all, what is government, but society and community?) to protect and provide, at all levels, and in every important and vital circumstance (unless, of course, friends of Ttumpian overlords); its complete and utter failure at its most basic, fundamental duties and responsibilities. When you’re left on your own; you’re on your own . . .

      So, yeah, fuck the idiot Arrellanos; and all their childish patrons.  But, fuck all the Ttumps, and their idiot enablers — harder.  We get rid of every one of them and the disease they spread; or suffer the collapse they’ve spawned and nurtured.

      The Arrellanos of this country are as much a symptom as they are the problem

      In my long-ago youth, I used to believe that the Apocalypse would be thunderbolts and lightning, and trumpets, and winged horses, and armies of angels and demons in a spectacular and awesome, glorious, epic final battle.  The end; the new beginning. Quick. Decisive. Good guys win.

      Twaddle.

      It will be a long, slow, nasty, crushing, soul and body starving, grinding, horrific slog to a pathetic, wasting, final fading last gasping whimper. No good guys, no winners; nothing but dead and forgotten victims . . .

      Unless . . .

       

  3. Well, there goes Dougco’s comparatively low CV19 death rate, of which Dio was so proud. If Rep. Neville comes down with the virus, look for RMGO to find a way to fundraise off of it. 

    What is wrong with these people? There were seniors and obese folks lining up to get a little virus with their pancakes. There have to be immune-compromised people, too…all high risk groups.
     

    The owners words reveal his essential selfishness and tunnel vision:

    “We’re getting ready to crash, just like another statistic,” Jesse Arellano, the owner told CBS4’s Makenzie O’Keefe on Sunday. “And we may still crash, we don’t know. But we figured if we’re going to crash, we’re going to go down and see how many people see stand with us.”
     

    1. I’m not proud, nor was I . . .

      (. . . not as proud as you are of making erroneous statements, anyway.)

      Correcting your shoddy nonsense and twaddle (then, and now again)  ≠ boasting

      Conserve your venom and bile for those factually-challenged, septuagenarian men, here.

  4. CEOs, Farm Bureau President Told To Remove Face Masks Before Meeting With Mike Pence

     

    Four CEOs of food companies and the president of the American Farm Bureau Federation were told to remove their face masks before a meeting in Iowa Friday with Vice President Mike Pence, a startling video posted by The Intercept reveals.

    Pence — also without a mask — appeared a short time later at the headquarters of the Hy-Vee grocery chain in West Des Moines for a roundtable discussion with the men in front of an audience.

    Just hours earlier Pence was informed that his press secretary Katie Miller had tested positive for COVID-19. She and six others in Pence’s entourage with suspected exposure to Miller were pulled from Pence’s flight to Iowa just before takeoff. Pence’s office denied news reports Sunday that he was self-isolating because of his exposure to Miller.

    Video before the Hy-Vee roundtable shows an unidentified woman walking up to two groups of the men, all wearing face masks. She can be seen speaking to them and mimicking a gesture as if she’s removing a face mask. All of the men remove their masks. It isn’t clear who she was representing, but going maskless is a hallmark of the Trump administration.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends wearing masks in groups and in public. But Pence and President Donald Trump have not complied with those guidelines in an apparent effort to make it appear that things are heading back to normal despite the ongoing pandemic. 

    The audience watching the Iowa roundtable practiced social distancing in the wide spacing of seating, but almost no one wore masks. Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) and Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds (R) all participated in the roundtable, but none wore a mask.

     

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-face-mask-iowa-covid-19_n_5eb88c1ec5b6bb4495e4788d

  5. Whoever said irony is dead? . . . 

    Positive coronavirus tests send White House scrambling

    [Trump administration officials spent the weekend scrambling as they attempted to do contact tracing for Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence's press secretary who tested positive for coronavirus last week.]

    Read in CNN Politics: https://apple.news/ALQgDeUOjS1ynz7c68Z_ngA

    Trump voiced frustration that two White House staffers tested positive for coronavirus and has asked why his valets weren't ordered to wear masks before this week, according to the person. 

    Trump believes an economic rebound will only come when governors decide to lift restrictions and is concerned at any signs the virus is resurgent. 

    At the same time, he's told people he doesn't want to be near anyone who hasn't been tested and has bristled when coming into contact with some people at the White House. 

    Pence is not planning to enter self-quarantine and plans to be at the White House on Monday, his office said on Sunday.

     

     

        1. You know that’s why he won’t wear one. ( meme by the buckingjenny.com)

          Trump’s role model, Putin, presiding over 221,000 cases and at least 2,000 deaths from CV19 in Russia,  (per Moscow Times reporting), joked with reporters outside a hospital without wearing a mask or distancing. Putin did, however, wear full hazmat when he toured the hospital wards.
           

          If only the Donald would start following that example, too….but the Germophobe in Chief probably won’t visit any actual Coronavirus patients.

      1. I won't.
         

        – they are sick, but – they aren't going to admit or acknowledge COVID
        – you can be sad anytime for anything
        – you can not be sad anytime for anything

        Here's the thing that gets me shaking my head some more

        What is a more likley response from the Commander in Chief:
        – wow. This virus just doesn't care who it infects, we should start requiring more universal testing and required preventive measures
        or
        – well, it's hard for the hoi polloi, but I have super immunity to everything so I know I can't get it.

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