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September 28, 2010 04:02 PM UTC

Dems to base: Stop Whining!

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  • by: H-man

I never really understood abusive relationships.  

Why would a seemingly intelligent human being go back into an environment where the one who professes to love them instead treats them very badly?  What always amazed me was how the abuser would blame the abused for their treatment.  But, people don’t act that way anymore, do they?

The establishment of both political parties in Colorado has abused their base.  They have made decisions at odds with the views of their base and there has been a revolution of sorts brewing in both parties.  On the Republican side, it is seen in the face of the Tea Party, which has thrown off the yoke of establishment candidates with mixed results.  

On the Dem side, with the additional burden of overcoming incumbency, its results are less tangible, but no less real.  It manifests in a sense of continued disillusion.  Pat Stryker got hers, (solar company loans) but I sure didn’t get mine.  Andrew Romanoff built the house, but Michael Bennet was given the keys.

Enter Joe Biden, an uninspiring politician with a unique gift of incessantly wandering off message and speaking inconvenient truths. In response to the wide enthusiasm gap in the upcoming mid-term elections currently being enjoyed by the Republicans, he is quoted by Politico as stating:

Biden, speaking at a frozen yogurt plant in New Hampshire, said he wanted to “remind our base constituency to stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This President has done an incredible job. He’s kept his promises.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s…

The Dem ruling class of Stryker and Bennet would agree with Biden.  They got theirs.  The Dem base, once promised hope and change, seems to have contracted something else.

Markos Moulitsas, of Daily Kos fame, summed it up well:

It’s idiotic is what it is,” says Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas, one of Obama’s most pointed critics on the left. “If Democrats, with the White House and Congressional super-majorities, had delivered on what they had promised, and if people had jobs, no one would be whining. They have reaped what they sowed. They haven’t delivered on what they’ve promised – and instead of making the case as to why they would do if they are reelected, they are insulting people.

“It’s a far cry from Bill Clinton’s ‘I feel your pain,'” he added.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s…

So is the Dem base in Colorado going to rally to Vice-President Biden’s call?  Do the women and minority groups that make up a disproportionate part of the Dem base feel inspired?  Do they feel that the Dems have delivered on what they promised?  Or, will they sit out the mid-terms and not walk the precincts and man the phone banks?

Like I said, I don’t really understand abusive relationships.

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35 thoughts on “Dems to base: Stop Whining!”

  1. can have that kind of an affect on voter likelihood … the people have been abused and they’re not going to turn out for those that have hurt them and our nation.

      1. Please ignore all our past history with actually governing the nation–we promise we’ll get it right this time, by recycling the same old crap into some ‘new’ pledge.  

        So where are all the millions of jobs created by the current tax breaks for the richest?  Or does the magic of ‘trickle down’ only activate in the fantasy future rule of decades-long incumbent, golf-boy, tan man Boehner?  The guy that pleaded for TARP bailout?  

    2. No legislation was going to fix that in 18 months.

      Rather than “We suck less,” I think it’s more like “It could have been worse.” It’s not real inspiring, but it’s true.  

      1. But they made it infinitely worse, and probably stalled actual recovery by years.

        But at least we have health care that’s going to be rationed and more expensive.

        1. I think you should be a little more careful with your adverbs and your infinities.

          But math aside, the stimulus made things better. It cut taxes for the middle class, it started rebuilding our infrastructure, and it provided a minimal social safety net for people who remain unemployed. These are things that most rational people agree a stimulus needed to do.

          1. “Yeah, but it would have been so much worse!” just doesn’t fly any more.  Their projections of how the stimulus would affect the economy were so off, it’s painfully obvious now that Obama’s economic team has no idea what they’re doing.

            I really hope this is the stake in the heart of Keynsian Economics once and for all.

            BTW, I’m looking forward to having our Irish dinner and drinks, no matter who’s buying.  It will be nice to see you.

            1. It required a huge stimulus to fix. The stimulus was big enough to do something but not big enough to fix the economy entirely. It partly worked. How else did you want to fix the economy? Tax cuts for rich people who would just put it in the bank? Eliminating Medicare and Social Security so old people could be poorer too?

              What did you want to do differently? Republicans are offering to go back to the policies of way way back in 2006 which led directly to the recession of 2007. Aside from “I want the opposite of whatever the President I voted for wants,” what alternative proposal did you ever support?

              And yes, Irish drinks will be nice.

            1. The government can’t directly create any jobs except for government jobs. Obama could have put a bunch of people to work directly for the government building train tracks, but then you would have called him a socialist…oh wait.

              Obama created jobs, Bush lost jobs. See how simple things are when you don’t lie about everything?

                1. Here’s one analysis from BLS data:

                  From December 2007 to July 2009 – the last year of the Bush second term and the first six months of the Obama presidency, before his policies could affect the economy –  private sector employment crashed from 115,574,000 jobs to 107,778,000 jobs.  Employment continued to fall, however, for the next six months, reaching a low of 107,107,000 jobs in December of 2009.  So, out of 8,467,000 private sector jobs lost in this dismal cycle, 7,796,000 of those jobs or 92 percent were lost on the Republicans’ watch or under the sway of their policies.  Some 671,000 additional jobs were lost as the stimulus and other moves by the administration kicked in, but 630,000 jobs then came back in the following six months.  The tally, to date:  Mr. Obama can be held accountable for the net loss of 41,000 jobs  (671,000 – 630,000), while the Republicans should be held responsible for the net losses of 7,796,000 jobs.

                  http://www.sonecon.com/blog/?p…

                  I’m not saying that it’s not a great campaign pitch – people will believe whatever they want. And when there’s an election, they blame the incumbent. If things are good – the incumbent benefits. If not – then not.

                  But people believing it doesn’t make it true.  It doesn’t re-write the facts nor redefine math nor alter te laws of physics.

                  So I repeat the question to you:

                  Ok, here’s a math question.

                  If unemployment was stable at 5% (2001-2007), how could we  still be having net job losses?

                  It’s not a trick question  – it’s exactly what happened.

                  And there is an answer.  It requires math and some kind of logic – deductive is preferred but I’ve seen a few outstanding inductive answers.

                  It’s ok if you cannot answer or do the analysis. I don’t know what you do for work or have studied  – but this would require some degree of math and reasoning skills.  

                    1. Ok, here’s a math question.

                      If unemployment was stable at 5% (2001-2007), how could we  still be having net job losses?

                      It’s not a trick question  – it’s exactly what happened.  

                    3. Yes- 2006 was the election- but that Congress was seated in 07.

                      But either way-  that’s your argument?

                    4. and those are hard, MADCO.

                      Especially hard if, in order to solve the problem, a student must include information from the real world. Especially if that information in anyway requires an understanding of biology.

                    5. During the first 18 months of the GW Bush presidency there was a drop in the employment level by 1,073,000 jobs. (According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Employment Database.)

                      What administration should be blamed for this net employment loss?

            2. That’s what the tan-man, decades long DC-insider, incumbent beltway politician and ‘I love to golf with my lobbyists buddies’, John Boehner claims…and yet those tax rates are in effect now, and…

              I know, I’m responding to BJ (vulgar term) Wilson.  So, no, I don’t expect a response, much less a cogent one.

  3. republican tea bagging party is not my intention. you guys just go ahead and mentally masturbate together. continue your self satisfaction, I won’t call the cops (like you guys would)  republican circle jerks.

    pardon me.

  4. I think we already know how an abused political partner reacts to further abuse.

    We found out when Buck went back on his positions on:

    1) abortion and personhood

    2) income taxes

    3) defunding the dept. of education

    4) privatizing veteran services

    5) eliminating student loans

    6) abolishing Social Security

    7) raising taxes to pay off the deficit

    etc.

    etc.

    etc.

    It was actually kind of sad. When you went up to him with tears in your eyes and said, “Kenny Boy, remember the good times we had?” he acted like he didn’t even know you. We all had to look away.

          1. He’ll say anything to any group to try to get their support, even if it directly contradicts something he stated earlier.

            This apparently doesn’t bother conservatives, who are used to being lied to and not being taken seriously. It bothers many other people though.

                1. Remember that Beej was quick to betray Maes as soon as his numbers started to dip.

                  There is no loyalty a conservative won’t betray. They cheat on their wives, they evade their taxes, they plagiarize their works, they pay lip service to their own holy book, they flip flop on their positions, and they turn on their candidates. All they care about is winning elections and consolidating power. That’s it.

                  1. pulls out of Colorado next week, because they need to spend their precious dollars where they can actually elect some senators, the beej betrays Buck just like that? Say it ain’t so!

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