September 18, 2010 04:48 AM UTC
Bennet vs. Buck Debate
94 Comments- by: DavidThi808
6:32 – Senator Bennet first – saying thank you to our troops. Now talking about the rough economy with middle income costs increasing but income has not. Next talking about 13 trillion dollars in debt with nothing to show for it. How we have not invested in our infrastructure.
6:35 – Ken Buck second – saying that he has been all over Colorado listening. Talking about the concerns people have for jobs and making ends meet. Next talking about the deficit, both the total and the yearly deficit. Says the deficit has hurt jobs by “spending money we don’t have on programs we don’t need.” Pinging Bennet saying he spends weekdays voting for deficit spending in D.C. and weekends in Colorado talking against deficit spending. Proposing a balanced budget amendment. And giving small business certainty as to what costs they will face.
Much louder cheers for Ken Buck – don’t know if that’s the region or if Buck packed the audience.
6:39 – Asked if negative advertising works. Senator Bennet says that taxes have been reduced for most and he runs ads on that setting the record straight. Got a large boo for that. Senator Bennet then said that yes we all have our own opinions but the facts are the facts – got a good round of applause for that. Then ended it with the tax cut for small business.
The moderator just spanked the audience for yelling “shut up.” Well done.
Ken Buck talking about Bennet’s ads being called false. And says when false ads are run, then the record needs to be set straight. He then added that fair comparison ads are a good thing to have.
Senator Bennet said that other’s say his ads are fair. He then brings up Ken Buck quotes to eliminate the Dept. of Education and his comments about some education programs. Ken Buck responded asking Senator Bennet to have the complete recordings the Bennet campaign has to the news media because they are taking his words out of context. This discussion got a bit pissy between them.
6:45 – Asking which is more important, undoing the tax cuts or continuing them to help the economy. Ken Buck replied first saying that lower taxes will increase revenue. (Yeah right – and if we take them to 0 then we’ll have infinite income.) Next bringing up the high overhead of some taxes (very good point).
Senator Bennet – starts off saying we have to be honest and that taxes are lower than ever before. Next talking about how we’re borrowing like crazy while cutting takes and not covering our expenses.
6:48 – What issues will be most important to independent voters. Senator Bennet replied that it’s the economy and the fiscal position of the economy. Next talking about how he has voted more with the Republican party than almost any other Democrat in Congress.
Ken Buck starts with jobs saying it is very important for everyone. Next to bring energy jobs back to Colorado, but to do it in an environmentally sensitive way. Third he brings up education and saying that it is best handled in a bottom up manner rather than top down from D.C.
Senator Bennet responding saying that he agrees with Ken Buck on this issue, on jobs, on energy, and on education. Ken Buck comes back thanking Senator Bennet for agreeing with him, but then pings him on some of his votes that have hurt those specific issues, dragging immigration into this.
6:54 – What should victory in Afghanistan look like? Senator Bennet starts off saying the most important job in the Senate is to support our troops both in action and when they return. He then said what matters is to take out Al Qaeda, backstop the Pakistan military fighting the terrorists, and backstop the Pakistan military securing their nuclear weapons. And that is where the mission ends – no nation building.
Ken Buck – first mentions his son at West Point. First insure Afghanistan is not a haven for terrorists. Second we have to eliminate the drug trade there. Third we need to eliminate terror support in Southeast Asia. He then concluded agreeing with Senator Bennet that nation building is impossible there.
6:57 – the DREAM Act. Ken Buck says he will vote against the DREAM Act. He then says that we do need a way for children who grew up here to go to school. But he wants it to not allow anyone who committed a serious crime, and that they first have to perform some service such as serving in the military. He concludes by saying he wants it to be earned.
Senator Bennet – starts by saying that he’s a co-sponsor. Talks about how his mom’s side came here from Europe and how much America means to them. He is speaking beautifully about what America is and what it means and how important that is. Beautiful words. And how awful it is for a child who graduates from High School who cannot go on to College.
7:02 – What to do about entitlements. Senator Bennet starts off by saying that this is the key question – that 55% of our spending is entitlements and debt. And we need to reduce medical spending, paying on outcomes rather than on effort (superb point). Then says that the government is on auto-pilot and that we need to sit down to figure this out.
Ken Buck – starting by saying we have made a sacred promise to our seniors and we need to hold to that. Wants to look at the middle group (I think he means middle age) and bring in things like adjusting the retirement age, means testing, etc. He also wants to give workers incentives to save for their retirement. And this additional income supplements social security.
Asking Senator Bennet for specific reforms. Senator Bennet first says he does not support the privatization of social security. Next talking about the 20% hospital readmission rate and how it is nuts because the hospital keeps getting paid – for doing a lousy job. Said there are many other examples.
7:08 – What does the tea party affiliation means? Ken Buck lists several groups and says that in whole that they are the grass roots. And he sees what is key to that is he has admitted that the Republicans are as much to blame for our problems as the Democrats. That both have raided the treasury for their friends. (This is the message that I think will win the race for Ken Buck.)
Senator Bennet asked about being called “Obama’s chosen one.” Senator Bennet first talking about some of his disagreements with President Obama. Senator Bennet next talking about outside groups running ads for Ken Buck that are from very extreme conservatives.
7:12 – Ask about campaign financing. Senator Bennet talks about how it’s horrible, that allowing companies to dump unlimited dollars, and that the 527s don’t have to list who donates to them. From this he shifted into our exporting, and how we invented solar panels but China is now the leading exporter of them. He brought it back by saying that the special interests get the system rigged for them individually even if it harms the country.
Ken Buck says he thinks we should have complete and immediate disclosure of who is donating to every group. He called out union donations in particular. He then brought up The Blueprint (great book) and how it created shadowy groups that brought about the Democratic wins in Colorado.
Senator Bennet started off by saying that he thinks trackers are fine. He next agreed with Ken Buck on transparency and that he would love to find who is funding the 5 groups pounding Senator Bennet.
7:17 – Asked about stem cell research. Ken Buck starts off saying that he is pro-life and therefore opposed to embryonic stem cell research, but is fine with adult stem cell research. On Supreme Court justices, he will not treat abortion as a litmus test, that he wants justices who will interpret the law, not make it.
Senator Bennet starts off saying he is pro-choice and does a great job saying that he does not want the government telling his daughters what they can do with their bodies – very emotional. He then added that he strongly supports embryonic stem cell research because from that we can cure diseases. He then spoke that he understands that people will disagree with this.
7:20 – DADT? Senator says he thinks we should repeal DADT. He followed on with there is no way our country benefits from denying some people the right to be true to themselves.
Ken Buck wants to retain DADT. He says he is fine with gay people serving, but that they cannot be open about it. That the military is better served by appearing homogeneous. (This makes no sense.)
7:22 – Will you lose your seat over healthcare? Senator Bennet replied that yes, but yes if it was a good bill that addresses a lot of the serious problems we face. He then went through the problems we face where we spend twice as much as any other industrialized country – and that this need to be solved.
Ken Buck first said that Senator Bennet was asked that question when the Senate bill was up to be voted on. Ken Buck next said the thing most people were upset about was the corrupt process used to pass the bill where Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu got specifying pieces for their states. He then suggested giving individuals the same tax break corporations get and bring in tort reform.
7:27 – Ken Buck closing statement – Talking about how the people have kept telling Washington what they want addressed. That what the people said was heard in D.C., but that it was then ignored. Very passionate list of the issues where the people have been ignored.
Senator Bennet – he wants to create a competitive economy and give our children a better place than we have. He then brought up specific case of a woman who told him that if we just worked together we can do anything, and she’s right. That with all of us we can continue to build the American dream. (This was a surprisingly weak closing.)
Now we have everyone in the audience shouting out for their candidate. Senator Bennet & Ken Buck shake hands. And we’re done.
My $0.02
I think this was a really good debate – substantive questions and both candidates gave specific answers. And quite a bit of ground was covered in the hour. The moderator did a superb job of apportioning time and controlling the crowd. So lots of good info about the differences between the two.
Senator Bennet’s strong and weak point is that he dives into the details. This reflects well on him that he can call up supporting facts and he shows a clear understanding of the issues. It’s a weak point in that he tries to make a nuanced intellectual argument supporting his candidacy rather than an easily understood simplistic answer which would sell a lot better.
Ken Buck’s strong point is he does a better job of making an emotional compelling argument for his candidacy. His weak point is that he’s a conservative!!! No wait, that’s not fair – it’s that AARGH yes that is it.
The bottom line is they’re both quality candidates. They differ strongly on most social issues. They’re closer on economic issues, but they’re still substantial differences (especially if you measure Senator Bennet by his votes, not his campaigning). They’re both focused on the economy and each thinks what they propose is our best way out of this mess. I think this makes for a great election as it gives us a clear choice (and you should pick the Democrat!!!)
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The website said that each side was given tickets; I assume the numbers were equal. Bennet ran out of tickets first. The audience was equally divided and the cheers were louder for Buck either because people liked his responses more, or his supporters are more enthusiastic about their candidate.
why don’t we just send a real Republican to congress?
Other than that little jab, the rest of the summary was pretty objective and a great read.
It’s geting to where we are going to need scorecards to keep track of all your new sockpuppets.
No, DavidThi808 is not my sockpuppet.
How long have conservatives try to rob from the poor to give to the rich?
Democrats have done more to keep the poor poor and dependent on government than anyone else – just look at our inner cities, run by Democrats. Conservatives want everybody to have a job and work hard so they can respect themselves and achieve a better life for themselves and their kids.
They absolutely want everyone to achieve a better life. As long as you conform to what they’ve narrowly defined as a “better life”. They’re even willing to use their “small government” to legislate that “better life” for us all. From conception to the grave.
Some people don’t wanna live like that Beej. Some people would rather be free to make choices about their own lives, their own bodies. They’re called Democrats. You should give it a try sometime.
It appeared to me they were the party of centralized government, incompetent goverance and less liberty.
Cause I’m pretty sure “Patriot Act” is all it takes to refute that ridiculous argument. Then there’s is the conservative obsession with legislating procreation. Republican war mongering has definitely eroded our liberty by enmeshing us in 2 wars and constantly looking for the next one. Not to mention what Republicans have done to our economy and the effect it has on our national security and therefore our liberty.
Unlike conservatives aka tea party dupes, I don’t see a centralized government as something to be feared. Unless Dick Cheney is pulling any strings. This whole “you should be afraid of your government” crap is only effective on the uneducated or uninformed. I have way more fear of a tyrannical small government run by Rove, Palin, Cheney, etc than I do a larger but overall benevolent one.
As for incompetent “goverance”, I’ll assume you mean governance. That was covered in my previous two points.
Just wait until the government tells you when you can get a prostate check, observes to see if it is done correctly, evaluates it for appropriate “outcomes and performance,”* and then tells you what insurance you can buy, when and from whom.
Obamacare will limit freedoms more than possibly any prior legislation unless it is de-funded and repealed.
*Mikey Bennet’s words.
Are those words supposed to be scary?
Just wait until Aetna tells you when you can get a cervical screen, observes to see that it has counted all its beans correctly, evaluates it to ensure that its 30% off the top is going to corporate pockets (rather than medical care) and then tells you that the pimple you forgot to disclose five years earlier means your policy has been canceled.
How is your example of the horrors of government health care any different than what we have now?
My husband’s employer tells us what insurance we can buy.
I’m not in the prostate-checking market, but my husband’s employer told me I could have a mammogram. The doctor they said I could use told me where to have it done. I went there and got my mammogram, and they called me back to tell me they needed more pictures of my lovely 56-year-old right breast.
I went back, they took their pictures and told me I was fine.
I began getting bills from the clinic and the radiologist. The insurance company my husband’s employer uses (yes, there’s only one; no choice there) explained that they covered the screening mammogram, but not the diagnostic one.
So…my husband’s employer tells me what insurance I can have and what doctor I can use. Then they told me I could have a procedure, but when I needed a follow-up they did not think that was worth covering. I sure didn’t have any choice or freedom in this situation!
I guess the difference is that I can vote for my government representatives, but I can’t vote on my husband’s employer. Given the state of the job market, neither can he.
As the previous posters have pointed out eloquently, we have much less freedom in our healthcare through the current system than in the “horror” you attempted to imagine for us.
Did you wanna try again?
but just the thought of having the long arm of government involved in my next prostate exam has me wincing and walking funny.
Democrats? Want people to have choices about their lives? You’re too funny!
What exactly is anyone supposed to take from your post? That you have absolutely NO argument to make.
But I’ll simplify it for you since you obviously need help. Obamacare. Bailouts. Failed “stimulus”. Auto takeovers.
Good luck trying to make the case that Obama and the Dems support small government.
Point to where I said I was a supporter of small government. Or that I thought small government equated to more liberty.
“Obamacare” is actually helping “most of the American public” attain or retain adequate medical coverage they wouldn’t be able to access under your vision of small government.
The bailout were the product of your Republican “small government” under Bush. You can keep trying to say it was Obama but most of the American public knows what I am talking about.
Every economist, even Republicans, agrees the stimulus hasn’t failed. But keep repeating it and it might come true. It wasn’t big enough because you’re small government party did what it does best…nothing to help struggling families or a struggling country.
The Auto takeover is the worst example you could have chosen. They have been enormously successful. Nice try though.
So what brilliant response do you have Beej? And you should actually read my post first:
http://coloradopols.com/showCo… then think before you type.
P.s “Most of the American public”…you realize for that sentence to be true, most of the American public would have to be reading this blog? You really don’t know how to think critically do you? I use to ask that as an insult but now I’m realizing it’s true.
And BTW, the American public can agree with me without knowing me or reading what’s on this site. This isn’t the United Socialist Pols of America.
Neanderthal Man was a hoax
Americans DO have choices:
Eat-don’t eat
Pay mortgage-don’t pay mortgage
drive over that bridge-drive 50 miles to avoid that bridge
Go to doctor-be sick, die
Homeless shelter-under the bridge
and it’s spike in poverty.
Review which states are the poorest overall, and which party is in control…
But then again, that would require actually learning about issues before you spit up some talking point, thus no one should expect it.
How long have liberals (socialist progressives) thought they are entitled to what other people earn/own?
sending an “actual republican” to Congress would only slow the economic recovery. That is as republicans have become the party of Nancy Reagan in “Just say NO” Anything President Obama would suggest would be countered with a blatant “NO”! even if President Obama were to move from center and adopted republican policies. NOTHING WHATSOEVER would be accomplished.
The republican hate of President Obama goes so far as to sacrifice American economic recovery to keep President Obama from having any real accomplishments. ALL in order to “take our country back!” (taking our country back from what? meaning… take our country back from a black president.)
do you libs always have to insert race into everything. Your continually do that shows us you’re the racist.
P.S. I thought the president was white.
do you nutcases refuse to form grammatically correct sentences? Your continuing to do so shows us you’re an idiot.
But he has sired two black daughters.
That’s going to be a heck of a scandal if it ever comes out.
yesterday on faux news called out a GOP candidate as being racist when he was insulting to postal workers and immigrant cab drivers
Even cons are beginning to recognize the racism of the tea baggers
Rudeness (also called impudence or effrontery) is a display of disrespectfulness by not complying with the social “laws” or etiquette of a group or culture.
Your candidate just doesn’t generate much enthusiasm.
on the Dem side. Like I said, not a lot of enthusiasm. I wonder if maybe the Romanoff voters are still pissed off at Bennet’s shennanigans?
not that I expect you to actually back up anything you post
http://www.gazette.com
that each candidate got the same number of tickets. Maybe they did, I’m not saying they didn’t, I’m just saying that I don’t see that in the article I found on the Gazette and hence all I have seen is you speculating.
Why would they give one candidate more tickets than another? If you look at the audience, it’s pretty clear the room was evenly divided. Buck supporters on the right (stage left), Bennet on the left.
means, to me (and I should know better since it is in response to you) that it’s stated in the article. The Denver Ghost said Buck’s supporters outnumbered.
I don’t know, I just find your posts–99.9985% of which have little or no factual content–like peanuts for my monkey. I cannot help myself in noting that you just MUS and then pretend its a ‘fact’ since, ‘look I posted it here…’
You have trouble with logic.
A) I didn’t say anything about the gazette in that post.
B) That was not my original post.
Dumb as a brick.
So only your first post is what you mean, and all the rest–many of which contradict earlier ones–are to be ignored?
Dumber than a brick.
I read it somewhere and I also read that all the tickets were handed out by the campaigns. I can’t imagine they would give the campaigns different amounts of tickets. Sorry I can’t be more specific.
and unruly. They had to be told how to behave. Ken Buck’s crowd was typical tea-party extremists. Sadly, I’ve met them many times at events where their ignorance was matched by their ferocity.
and Bennet had to tell him to pipe down. Please. Stop with your lies and your defamation of the Tea Party.
maybe we can strike a deal?
what events? Certainly, you haven’t been to a tea party, have you?
My daughters used to have them all the time when they were little. I never missed an opportunity to drink imaginary tea out of tiny little doll-sized plastic cups.
you have a heart???
Why isn’t anyone saying “Let’s remove DADT and just have everything Co Ed.”
If our Gay Military Personal can be in a large shower area with men, then why not Co Ed?
If the response is it too dangerous for our female troops, are you saying the sexual urges of a gay man are not as strong as the sexual urges of a heterosexual?
I really don’t have a opinion on the matter, I’m just asking questions.
I really don’t have a opinion on the matter, I’m just asking questions.
And for the record I don’t have a dog, but my parents have a cat that enjoys me slapping his belly when I come over.
because it’s afraid you’ll do something much worse. Domestic abuse victims have all kinds of coping strategies.
I am there.
If only I weren’t so old at 61.
But, hey, I got a Lottery Number and you did not.
I can’t find a literal transcript or you-tube video yet, but I could have sworn Ken Buck said the “military should be homogenous” (not should appear homogenous). I could be wrong, so I will keep checking for a transcript. (What kind of racist, xenophobic, homophobic, sexist b.s. is that? What does he want — an all-white, male, blonde-haired, blue-eyed, army? That was the scariest thing I had heard in a long, long time.
Even if he did say “should be homogenous”, what the heck does that mean?
Could it be that straight men should not have to shower with gay men? The minute a gay hits on a straight, he’ll be gone. Poof!
Gays don’t waste a whole lot of effort hitting on straight people, much as straight people don’t waste a lot of effort hitting on gay people.
You have ABSOLUTELY no understanding of this issue, do you?
men’s rooms and men’s showers are almost always group things. No stalls or likely no doors on stalls. Except in home schools.
Most straight guys aren’t going to become gay from taking showers together. Just seeing the penis doesn’t do the trick. Heck, when we’re kids we show them to each other.
She thinks co-ed dorms are unnatural.
She also thinks women don’t belong in military academies and therefore the military itself:
The more I find out about this crazy chick’s beliefs the more frightened I become. I thought Sarah Palin was the worst thing that could happen to women in politics. Then Sharon Angle came a long. And now this rocket scientist.
with Christine O`Donnell being the candidate you get awesome ads like this one..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
and don’t forget the Million Masturbators March (I was there in spirit)
http://www.borowitzreport.com/…
are you afraid you’ll get curtailed?
Seriously, it’s 2010. We shouldn’t still be having the “gay men are just like women” debate. It’s just ignorant. And in this day and age it’s willful ignorance as there is a plethora of information available on the interwebs. It’s also extremely offensive.
Now if someone wants to have a reasonable debate about DADT, I’m all for it. Starting out by equating gay men and women isn’t the way to do it.
I decided to start posting on Coloradopols because I know this site is left leaning. If I didn’t want to challenge myself, I’d just continue going to 9/12 type groups and surround myself with people I generally agree with. I think I’m in a place where I should give my political ideology room to grow.
Now I never said gay men are just like women. I have heard opponents of gays in the military say “we can’t have people who are able to be sexuality attracted to each other sleeping in the same quarters or using the same public showers.” proponents counter with “Our homosexual military personal are disciplined enough to not let such situations get in the way of the mission.” Now quite frankly that is a very good defense.
So my question is are the heterosexual members of our military (both male and female) just as disciplined?
Now EmeraldKnight you have said there are websites that address the questions I have. Links? I would really like to hear well thought out views on this.
Oh and you think this question is “extremely offensive?” Welcome to the interwebs. 🙂
They are now and always have been.
They serve OPENLY in most other militaries.
Are you saying the US Military is unable to deal with current reality or less capable than most other nation’s military?
(PS-when you frame a question as a Devil’s Advocate but it is something you yourself really believe, you appear as a coward IMHO).
I don’t know if I would say this is what I believe. It has been an idea that has been brought up to me that I believe has merit, but not enough at this point for me to say “This is what I believe.”
I probably should of said “interesting idea brought to me” instead of Devil’s Advocate. Would of been better wording.
Now I always have found the “Everyone else is doing it” to be a weak argument, however it’s interesting to look at where our allies are this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S…
What’s really interesting is 3 of the 4 countries we don’t have diplomatic with are on the list of countries that ban homosexuals from the military
Did you know when you asked it that 30% of female veterans reported being raped while in the military? http://www.npr.org/templates/s…
I did not know the numbers where that high.
I want to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion, especially EmeraldKnight76 since he gave me the opportunity to use the word masturbate in this thread.
for all forms of Rape – Male/Female, and male/male. Female/Female seems to be so statistically low as to almost not exist.
…you’ll take a shower with a drag queen wearing assless chaps and nipple clips. Especially if it’s that nasty Kuwaiti/Iraqi desert dust you’re trying to wash off your behind.
Teh Gayz are ALREADY showering with the straightz. Despite the Homo fantasies of GOP Lawmakers, it isn’t resulting in giant hot wet bodies wrestling erotically in the steam.
It’s a bunch of grunts getting clean for the first time in months and dreaming of hot chow and a decent place to sleep.
how little sexual orientation matters. This whole shower debate is fucking ridiculous because it isn’t even an issue, especially to combat troops.
When your life is in the hands of the soldier next to you, when his is in yours, and you’re on a mission, the last thing you give a shit about is who may or may not be gay. You have far more important things to worry about.
By the time you get to a bed or a shower all you care about is washing away all that sand and sometimes blood that is caked in every crevice imaginable. Again, you’re not worried about who’s gay or who may be watching you shower.
As a gay man I absolutely wish I could have been out. Not because I felt the need to flaunt my sexuality, it’s never been my style. It’s because I believe in what our military stands for and honor plays a major role in it. Lying about such a major part of my core being doesn’t comport with honor.
Emotionally it’s hard sitting around listening to my soldiers talk about their wives/girlfriends and be unable to mention my partner.
Drag queens and assless chaps – sure.
but no nipple clips would be allowed after just 30 days. 45 maybe.
Buck is a back pedalling neocon that has been disciplined by the Colorado Supreme Court on ethics charges. The man knows nothing about economics, science, nor apparetnly enforcing the law properly.
David thinks Buck will win because he interviewed him, and the Benneut campaign didn’t agree to it because David changed his vote at the Dem state convention.
Buck has never been disciplined by the Colorado Supreme Court. 100% clean record.
If he didn’t know anything about enforcing law properly, why did a Dem US attorney promote him to the head of the criminal division of the US attorneys office? Why has crime gone down 50% in Weld county over the last six years?
Ray, when you make up your own facts you only allow two choices, you are ignorant, but mistaken, or you are a liar. Now that you have been corrected that will leave only one possibility if you repeat them.
Ken Buck’s answer on DREAM Act makes no sense, because he clearly doesn’t know how the DREAM Act would work when enacted.
It is tailored for undocumented youth who were brought to this country before 15 years old, who have been in the country for 5 or more years, who graduate from high schools in the US and who demonstrate good moral character (i.e no criminal record). After a six-year process, the DREAM Act would extend a path to permanent residency after the youth can prove that they have served for 2 years in the military or 2 years of higher education.
One, he thinks people should have clean criminal records, not 2 misdemeanor convictions or less, in order to participate. Two, he thinks there should be a public service requirement, such as military service, in order to be eligable. Both thoughts to me make sense. Perhaps not to you.
It’s the same kind of argument about the healthcare reform
– Nebraska shouldn’t have gotten a special deal.
Right – they didn’t.
– Death panels and 16.500 new IRS agents are bad.
RIght- neither are true.
It’s the same kind of argument about IRaq & Afghanistan.
– We should remove combat forces from Iraq.
Done.
– We should fight the bad guys in Afghanistan and support security in Pakistan and get out.
That’s the plan.
And the defict, and taxes, and and and
Thanks for doing the play by play.
In the discussion of campaign finance, Bennet called out Buck for having bought the Republican primary. There Norton got all the insider money and Buck got more of the 527 money and the total amount spent, to the extent that can be tracked, was roughly equal.
I thought the Romanoff backers where Bennet not only outraised but had the Obama team, OFA and others tip the scales on Bennet’s behalf to the extent of about 10-1 would enjoy Bennet’s rather short memory. I don’t think this helps him with Norton alums and I suspect may hurt him some with Romanoff alums. I don’t understand why he went there. Bennet’s complaining was to insiders strange.
I thought Bennet did reasonably well in the debate. I don’t mind him jumping into detail, but recognize as to the wider audience that may not be the way to go.
On the audience front, Buck’s was more enthused but the worst behaved that I saw, and I tracked it on the internet, was the Bennet supporter who interrupted Buck by yelling out a question. I think the moderator did as well as could be done controlling things.
Overall good debate. Buck had the better of it with the audience. Other than pissing off Romanoff supporters, no memorable faux pas from Bennet. Buck getting out his position on abortion is no litmus test to approve Justices and others I thought was important for him. Basically, no blood, no foul.
And well you should, we’ll try to get Norton supporters pissed at Buck. But this is a non-starter. We already know Bennet bought his win – that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
Ken Buck is a very good trial lawyer and clearly won the debate last night.
Bennet should have hammered him on his ethics transgressions
Look, if you think this wasn’t a circus and is part of why the parties are “out-of-control” then maybe you need to listen to the rest of America.
Neither, Buck N’ Bennet can “Stop the Insanity” they are part of it.
I really don’t want to go over each statement in response form the questions, since neither of them answered the question asked. Instead they offer the same old political rhetoric.
One, I was a Vet, I was in the Military. The same reason these guys don’t get the Dream Act is the same reason they don’t get Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (DADT). Jeez.
Just as President Clinton didn’t understand the issues or the UCMJ, since he didn’t serve in the military. He doesn’t understand, like these two what PDA is.
Also, great answers for “how to fix the economic mess,” NOT. I hate to inform Mr. Buck but any Constitutional amendment like the “Balance Budget Amendment” will take more than one year to pass. Get a clue, we have a serious mess here and (as someone mentioned to me) these two clowns are acting like this is some sort of circus.
YOU HAVE TO ASK: What are these two going to do for you?
What are your positions on the DREAM Act and DADT?
HR 1751 Dream Act – is fatally flawed. No real limits and controls on the huge number of those you grant amnesty to. Wide discretion to DHS with little or no accountability or oversight. NO
DADT – never should have been put in place. UCMJ covers this and making it an issue, makes as much sense as if this applied to when “women were incorporated” into the Military. I know I was in the service when this occurred. This is what happens when one attempts to understand and legislate the military, defense, or issues revolving national defense or security when they don;t know from experience. You get failed, ineffective policies, which create havoc on the agencies you are attempting to regulate.
NO
Like, “No Child Left Behind” these all have to go.