Tuesday Open Thread

“We would all like to vote for the best man but he is never a candidate.”

–Kin Hubbard


19 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. kwtreekwtree says:

    A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don't necessarily want to go, but ought to be.-Rosalynn Carter

    • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

      I always felt that Rosalynn played a powerful role in President Carters' presidency, by way of her influence on him personally. I know how much I rely on the counsel of my Cat.

  2. MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

    Turns out 'he' is a 'she'.  Does Drumpf's transgender ban apply here?  

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      No problemo . . . 

      . . . Ttump probably performed all the necessary canine, um, appendulations add-on surgery with his magic Presidential Sharpie . . . 

      . . . or by Presidential decree to the military?

  3. Powerful Pear says:

    It’s official. MediaIte is quoting Obama as saying Joe Biden, “really doesn’t have it”. Geico should make a commercial; 15 minutes with Joe Biden will save you from voting for him……..”everybody know that.”

    Say yes to Tulsi, the only patriotic Democrat candidate who loves America.

  4. MADCO says:

    Math is hard*

    Electoral math is even harder.


    *what she said was "math class is tough" and if you pulled the string again, there were several phrases and "let's go shopping was one of several possibilities.

    • harrydobyharrydoby says:

      The good news is that if only 2/3rds of those Trump Democrats stick with him, that represents a 33% erosion in his support.

      But according to the article, this is just a thin (2%) slice of the voters.  But yes, we need all the votes we can muster in the battleground states.

      • MADCO says:

        You do realize there is going to be another 'Jill Stein,' right?

        • harrydobyharrydoby says:

          Would their initials be "Michael Bloomberg"?

        • RepealAndReplace says:

          I do realize there will be another Jill Stein, or Rosanne Barr (Green candidate in ‘08), or Ralph Nader. My only interest is discouraging Dem-leaning voters from wasting their votes on spoilers only to wake up after the election to the worse of two evils.

          PS The Greens probably won’t nominate Rosanne again but Susan Saradon or some other moronic celebrity would accept their nomination.

          • MADCO says:

            Honey or vinegar


            I hate the Democrat's party. Only slightly less than the republican party.
            You don't care – and it's why HRC lost.
            Did you and she think that people were going to enjoy a fixed primary? Or that they would just shut up and take it? 

            A lot of us did (I organize and vote in Colorado and HRC won here easily)  but then enter Gucifer 2.0 and the fat guy in the basement and no appearance in Wisconsin and an arrogant obnoxious campaign and party that blew up Pennsylvania and Michigan.

            I'm not saying your math is wrong. I'm saying that, as usual, you can be part of the problem or part of the solution.



            • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

              I was a precinct captain in 2016. I watched the battle from up close. After observing the behavior and questionable political machinations of the centrist, established, HRC Dems, I shortly thereafter parted ways with the Mesa County Democrats. They miss me like they would miss a hemorrhoid.

              Sadly, the Dem party is our only hope. The rule of law and the Constitution will not be defended by the Republicans nor by centrist, corporation loving, billionaire Democrats. If the working class has a chance for a fair deal, it won't be by the hand of the Orange Destruction, but by an energized Democratic Party not afraid to stand up for the working poor.

              As the American Dream slips further and further away, we (the working people of this nation) must assert ourselves. The working people of the United States built this nation, not the bankers and financiers. The uber-rich have taken more than their fair share and skipped out on the bill…as usual.

              The clear distinction drawn by the right wing between the precepts of the Constitution and the way they want things to be are not hard to discern. 

              I certainly share your disdain for the Democratic Party as it currently operates. We need to fix that. The time for nibbling at change is past.


              • kwtreekwtree says:


                Indeed, Duke.I respect all the grass roots Democrats I know, the people who actually show up and walk their precincts and get out the vote.

                I remain skeptical about the motives and competence of the “consultant class”, who have never knocked a door in their lives, but by virtue of a poli-sci degree or a failed campaign or two on their resumes, feel entitled to tell Democrats to vote for the Party’s anointed ones.

                IMHO, they do much more harm than good.

              • PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

                Publicly, he has been clear that he won’t intervene in the primary for or against a candidate, unless he believed there was some egregious attack. “I can't even imagine with this field how bad it would have to be for him to say something,” said a close adviser. Instead, he sees his role as providing guardrails to keep the process from getting too ugly and to unite the party when the nominee is clear. There is one potential exception: Back when Sanders seemed like more of a threat than he does now, Obama said privately that if Bernie were running away with the nomination, Obama would speak up to stop him. (Asked about that, a spokesperson for Obama pointed out that Obama recently said he would support and campaign for whoever the Democratic nominee is.)

              • MADCO says:

                Happy Thanksgiving back.

                Of course, you are correct.

  5. PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

    cc: Governor Jared Polis

    Deadly measles outbreak hits children in Samoa after anti-vaccine fears

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is immediately sending experts in response to a request from the Samoan government for assistance with a measles outbreak that has sickened 2,437 people and killed 32, mostly children, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

    Anti-vaccine activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a nephew of President John F. Kennedy, visited the country in June, appearing next to officials at Samoan independence celebrations. His visit was “for a program that is not government-related,” an official in the prime minister’s department told Samoan news media at the time.

    Kennedy has asserted that vaccines cause autism, a claim disproved by extensive research. Members of the Kennedy family have publicly criticized him for helping “spread dangerous misinformation.”

    An Instagram photo shows Kennedy embracing the Australian Samoan anti-vaccine activist Taylor Winterstein in Samoa on June 4. “I am deeply honored to have been in the presence of a man I believe is, can and will change the course of history,” Winterstein wrote in the caption, adding hashtags #makinginformedchoices #investigatebeforeyouvaccinate.

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