Wednesday Open Thread

“The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government.”

–Thomas Jefferson

13 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. RepealAndReplace says:

    All things old are made new again….

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/us/politics/robert-livingston-ukraine-impeachment.html

    It was 20 years ago during the Clinton impeachment that we last heard from Bob Livingston. He resurfaces. And with a Ukraine connection no less.

    For those who do not recall, Livingston was on the verge of becoming House speaker after Newt Gingrich was forced to step down in 1998. Literally in the middle of the House impeachment debate, Livingston was outed as an adulterer and announced that he would decline the speaker's gavel.

    Rather than install an open and notorious adulterer as speaker, the GOP caucus elected Denny Hastert, a closeted pedophile, as speaker instead.

    • A collection of very fine people by Republican moral standards.

    • notaskinnycook says:

      Wasn't it because Gingrich was discovered to have taken up with his third wife while still married to the second one? I guess they decided one cheater in for another wasn't an improvement. They didn't know about Hastert's crimes yet.

       

      • RepealAndReplace says:

        Gingrich's extra curriculum activities may have been a factor but if I recall correctly, the House GOP conference was more angry over the fact that Gingrich decreed that the Republican strategy for 1998 was to make the entire election about Bill, Monica and the blow job.

        As a result, the GOP defied the laws of political gravity which had held that the party which holds the White House loses seats in the sixh year of a president's term. (The was the rule going all the way back to the 1920's.) Thanks to General Gingrich's brilliant strategy, the Dems had a net pickup of five House seats.

        Yes, they did not yet know of Hastert's crimes and would not learn until after he left office.

        • Conserv. Head Banger says:

          Turned out to be the "trifecta of idiocy:" Gingrich, Livingston, Hastert. 

          At least Newt had enough honor to step down as Speaker after the Repubs lost.

          2016 was an even bigger wipe out for Repubs in Colorado, especially in the State House. Too bad Patrick Neville doesn't have the honor of Gingrich.

          • RepealAndReplace says:

            Boy Neville is patient and is biding his time. The voters will come around to see the world the way in which he sees it.

            Besides, had he stepped down after the 2018 wipe out at the state level, who would take his place? Lori Saine? Dave Williams? Some other screwball?

  2. Diogenesdemar says:

    “C” is for “concentration camps” ??? . . .

    . . . or, yet another way Team Ttump has found to screw the system, and enable new tortures of immigrants . . .

    White House Finds Loophole in Search for Homeland Security Secretary

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/us/politics/white-house-homeland-security.html

  3. RepealAndReplace says:

    I just got a letter from the Hickenlooper campaign asking for money!

    He is trying to raise $300,000 by Nov. 15.

     

  4. Voyageur says:

    My son's dachshund, Atticus the Long, survived surgery for a bowel blockage Monday and will return to their Connecticut home tonight.  Thanks for your barks and prayers.  My son and I split the $6,000 tab.  he's only seven and we hope for his loving companionship for many more years.

  5. itlduso says:

    Comment moved to Buck thread.

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