(Promoted by Colorado Pols)
For those of you who may not listen to conservative talk radio, here’s a glimpse into the bubbled world of KVOR in Colorado Springs.
“The Second Amendment is not actually about my right to hunt,” said state Sen. Paul Lundeen on a Colorado Springs radio station recently. “It supports that, of course. And it’s not actually about a person’s right to defend themselves when someone is coming after them…. The Second Amendment is about the protection–over the people–from tyranny.”
Later in the show, a caller named “Rudy” challenged Lundeen.
“If that’s so, [people] should be owning bazookas, or what have you.”
“Okay, so, now it just gets Crazy-town!” interjected KVOR host Tron Simpson. “This is what we do. Now, Paul, try to educate him a little bit more.”
“Here is what I’d say, Rudy,” replied Lundeen. “Go out to YouTube, find the video from Venezuela, where the military police in their armored personnel carriers were driving over the tops of the citizens of Venezuela.”
“Runnin’ ‘em over, man!” exclaimed the talk radio host.
“And that is exactly why the Second Amendment needs to be in place,” explained Lundeen. “It’s how you avoid tyranny. To your question, ‘You need a bazooka?’ – perhaps the people DO, in order to stand against tyranny. So, consider that as a philosophical construct.”
“And let me just add this, Rudy,” added radio-host Simpson. “When the Second Amendment was fortified and put into our Constitution, we weren’t talking about – okay, we had muskets, right? Okay, we have different technology [today]. Do you not think that the founders did not know that there would be technology? Our founders were also inventors, so things that were created back then, they knew would probably escalate in technology. So, it’s not [affecting a mocking tone of gun control advocate], ‘This was about muskets, you know, and bows and arrows, maybe!’ No, no, it’s about protection of your family and your liberty from a tyrannical government. Very important!”
Lundeen didn’t return a call for comment.
Listen to Sen. Paul Lundeen on KVOR radio Sept. 21:
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Founding Fathers did not only consider the methods of defense when writing up the Second Amendment. They almost certainly considered the consequences of the use of weapons. Arguably, they allowed the "well-ordered militia" to "bear arms" — terms which, while arguable, served at most to allow weapons in common use in homes at the time to be maintained. They clearly did NOT allow private militias to formulate themselves into navies and arm ships with cannons, or to support fortifications defended by mortars and cannon in any town.
One reason for that — the casualties of battles of the Revolutionary War.
But now, we have arms which allow a single individual to inflict as many casualties as there were in all-day battles of that war. The shooting at Las Vegas had about as many casualties as both sides in the 11th most destructive battle of the Revolution — Battle of Monmouth, June 28, 1778 (267 American casualties) {295 British casualties}.
Personally, I expect the moral calculus of damage should have influenced the debate and eventual wording of the Second Amendment.
Agree with much of what you say, but “well ordered militia” was a sop to southern slave owning states and the politics of ratification; it had nothing to do with the now mythologized minutemen.
As for “moral calculus,” there was plenty of calculus, but morality had already left the building . . .
I thought pulling out the concluding rhetorical question paragraph might be interesting for those who won't read the whole thing:
That’s a rhetorical question that I’m pretty sure would be answered quite negatively by far, far too many of the author’s non-target audience?
Last Bazooka sold for $7,475 if you want one… they are totally legal…just sayin'
Nah – too much work.
However, under Colorado open carry could I carry an M2 around?
If I could rig a
costumeovercoat or a cape, could I conceal carry ?Can I tripod mount it on my vehicle?
Or can I tripod mount it in my house, synched to the alarm system so it can operate in autonomous mode?
I think I'd rather spend $7,000 dollars on something I might actually use someday.
The NRA’s prescription for those especially challenged fellows for whom assault weapons just won’t compensate sufficiently ? . . .
. . . just sayin’.
Why don't they try Cialis and a penis pump first….
Penis pump? Cialis? Those guys?
Wouldn’t you still need to have sufficient, um . . . caliberization . . . to work with?
File under: Freedom isn't Free
Victims of Las Vegas massacre – the deadliest US shooting – could get up to $800M from MGM
IIRC, Donnie LittleStick has yet to condemn that nice white man?
“IIRC, Donnie LittleStick has yet to condemn that nice white man?”
After all, there are some "very fine people" in the mass murderer community.
This IS the way to get guns under control. The joy of the free market. (Or as Moderatus might say, Adam Smith's big powerful fist.)
The problem is that the NRA and their ilk have gotten statutory immunity from liability for gun manufacturers. Let the people who create the risk pay for the harm which results.
Even bars and liquor stores – which have limits on liability under Dram Shop – still face some exposure if they sell to an obviously intoxicated person.
You get ample dumbass dumbshit dumbfuckery from firearm fetishists regarding the Second Amendment, but "in 1791, the Framers were supremely concerned about Venezuelan MPs running over citizens with APCs" really raises the bar.
Sen. Paul Lundeen is extraordinarily stupid, even by white man standards.
Lundeen simply follows in the fine tradition of:
Charlie Duke
Maryanne Tebedo
Doug Bruce
Doug Lamborn
Gordon Klingonshit
Dave Williams
It may be something in the drinking water.
OriginaI 2nd amendment motto: I'll give you my musket when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
Modern 2nd amendment motto: I'll give you my bazooka when you pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands.
And…here we go again:
Four killed, five wounded in shooting at Kansas bar (Reuters) – Four people were killed and five wounded in Kansas early on Sunday when one or two suspects opened fire inside a Kansas City bar, and police were hunting for the shooters, local authorities said.