Thursday Open Thread

“Every wave, regardless of how high and forceful it crests, must eventually collapse within itself.”

–Stefan Zweig


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  1. PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

    I do declare!  It's getting so powerfully, powerfully hot in here.

    Australian ambassador to Washington rejects key claim by Lindsey Graham

    Australia’s ambassador in Washington has flatly rejected a description by the Senate judiciary committee chairman, Lindsey Graham, of Alexander Downer’s role in relaying information to American authorities about Russia obtaining damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

    Graham, an influential Republican senator, wrote to the prime ministers of Australia, Italy and the United Kingdom calling for their continued cooperation with the US attorney-general William Barr’s investigation – a controversial probe established by Donald Trump aimed at discrediting the Mueller inquiry.

    In his letter Graham referred to American law enforcement and intelligence communities “accepting information from an Australian diplomat who was also directed to contact [George] Papadopoulos and relay information obtained from Papadopoulos regarding the campaign to the Federal Bureau of Investigation”.

    • MADCO says:

      I do declare.

      Team trump is clearly on a mission now to say there is nothing wrong with asking foreign governments to help with investigations of political opposition and other stuff.
      Why, we all do it all the time. 

      Later, it will be more of the whistleblower (s) being unfair, inferior (immigrant, fat, female, non-white), deep state political operatives, Obama did it, her emails.

      They should get their stories straight – Pompeo looked pretty surprised that he had directed Giuliani to do anything, bless his heart. 
      But Giuliani has memos and texts and recollections.


    • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

      Perhaps Franklin could make himself useful as a preacher and do things like feed and clothe the poor? Call out the fallacy of the #prosperitygospel? Seriously, GFY

      Franklin Graham: Impeachment could cause US to 'unravel'

      Graham, the son of the late evangelist Billy Graham, has been a frequent supporter Trump and said the Democratic Party is pushing for an impeachment inquiry because its members don't accept the results of the 2016 election, the Religious News Service reported.

      “Our country could begin to unravel if an elected president is thrown out of office because of lies and the media,” Graham said in an interview with the news service. “It could be a devastating thing.”



      • notaskinnycooknotaskinnycook says:

        Do you think his father would be proud of him?

      • JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

        And since there is nothing wrong, Trump is announcing he's thinking about asking China to investigate the Bidens. On a White House driveway, in front of news media microphones and cameras.

        VOX: Trump just encouraged 2 countries to interfere in the 2020 election — on camera He’s just doing the impeachable conduct in public. Will he get away with it?

        • harrydobyharrydoby says:

          An explanation:

          Maggie Haberman, who has covered Mr. Trump for many years in New York and Washington, about the significance of his statements.

          Maggie, why would he just blurt out that he wants China to investigate the Bidens?

          He clearly knows something a wise person once said to me, which is that the value of a secret is its ability to be disclosed. So he tries to move the window of acceptability by publicly doing the very thing he is accused of doing in private.

          What is it about his circumstances that might encourage him to make a request like this out loud?

          He has led a consequence-free life despite enormously self-destructive behaviors over time. The divorces were marriages he wanted out of. The bankruptcies impacted his lenders most, not him. All of his behavior in 2016 ended with him winning the presidency. And the Mueller obstruction inquiry ended with no definitive answer.

          Does his request this morning remind you of anything?

          The period of time that is the most illuminating happened after the “Access Hollywood” tape came out. The next day, I wrote a story about Mr. Trump holed up at Trump Tower. He came downstairs sometime after 4 p.m. and went and immersed himself in a crowd of supporters who were outside on the street, and pumped his fist. The next day, he went to the debate in St. Louis and paraded Bill Clinton’s accusers in front of Hillary Clinton. It was the most savage thing I had ever seen anyone do in politics. And it underscored what Mr. Trump does when he is wounded.

          PS. This summer, after Mr. Trump said that he would be open to taking information from a foreign power, Ellen Weintraub, chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission, posted a statement to Twitter reminding him (indirectly) that it was against the law. She posted it again today and added, with a microphone emoji, “Is this thing on?”

      • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

        It IS because of lies and the media. The media persists in uncovering and calling out his lies.

        I know…maybe he could just have the Justice Dept. look in to it. Maybe a government takeover of Amazon and the NYT and only allowing Fox News and Salem Broadcasting on air. It could work.

  2. MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

    We interrupt our regularly-scheduled programing to cut to the Jacob Wohl presser on Lizzie:  (Siri, please tell me how to stop cry-laughing that this moron wants us to believe Liz is having a long-term affair with a 24 year old former marine she solicited for sex through a website?) 

    Thank God(dess) for Q. 

    There must be some serious *hit coming at Trump today to need a distraction like this. 

    If true, I'm going to send her money. 



    • spaceman65 says:

      Shock the conscious?  Wow, that's way worse than shocking the conscience.  RWNJs are apparently afraid of science even when it's just part of a word with a different meaning.

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      I’m sure this will very soon all be corroborated by several officials of the Azerbaijani government, and the Guaraní tribe, that Giuliani and Barr (Ttump’s dos locos Roy Cohns) have been recently promising paying off speaking with . . . 

    • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

      I'm guessing today's 2:30 EST bombshell fizzled like the one yesterday

    • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

      If you want to be entertained by the goats supporting Drumpf you need to go no further than this Tweeter thread today. The comments are priceless.

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      I'm sure it is pure bullshit but on the other hand, it makes Elizabeth Warren much more colorful than the image of the pedantic schoolmarm she currently exudes.

      A 24-year old boy toy! Wow! Here's to you, Mrs. Robinson!

      • MADCO says:

        I hope is false and demonstrably so.

        If it's true, her candidacy is over. It's not fair, but it's the way it is.

        • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

          It appears (shockingly) to be yet another Wohl stunt…but it is giving Lizzie some street cred with the young-uns! 

          • kwtreekwtree says:

            Here’s a script for her press conference:

            Cameras clicking, hum as Elizabeth Warren steps up to the microphone.

            Reporters: ( overlapping) Senator Warren! Senator Warren!

            She calls on a Washington Post reporter.

            WPR: Senator Warren, You were accused of having a sexual relationship with Jacob Wohl. Do you have a comment?

            EW: (pauses, looks over her glasses. Smiles). My comment is that this is an absurd and completely baseless story, made up by a Trump supporter as a distraction from his own Ukraine scandal. Besides….

            Reporters gearing up for more questions, talking over each other.

            EW: Besides, if I were ever going to betray the trust of my loving Bruce, my husband of  35 years, don’t you think I would have better taste in a partner than Jacob Wohl? This man scarred his own back by incompetently putting up a swing, exhibited it on Instagram, then boasted that he got it from sex play? With me?

            EW fixes the crowd with an intense blue stare. Silence from reporters.

            EW: Please. Give me credit for better judgment, at least, ladies and gentlemen. Now, I’d like to discuss a policy for increasing the general intelligence of young males, and decrease inanity in general. I have a plan for that.


  3. JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

    I don't pay excessive amounts of attention to the sex scandals of politicians, but I'm having a hard time thinking of one involving a female politician that did NOT involve a male politician with her.

    Guess we need to start advocating for Equal Rights AND Equal Wrongs among elected politicians.

  4. MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

    This isn't Colorado politics, but for anyone following Devin Nunes' Cow on Twitter this is rich: 

    Nunes files $75M lawsuit over Esquire story about 'secret' Iowa dairy

    The story details how Nunes’s family sold their California farmland in 2006 and “secretly” moved its dairy operation to Sibley, Iowa, a community that frequently relied on labor from undocumented immigrants.

    Nunes grew up on a dairy in Tulare County, Calif., and has identified himself as a farmer. However, the Bee noted that he did not report earning any income from a farm for more than a decade. 

    PS: FU Sonny

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