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June 30, 2010 03:50 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Aspire rather to be a hero than merely appear one.”

–Baltasar Gracian

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  1. from the Denver Post

    A woman told state troopers she was fleeing a vampire when she ran her sport-utility vehicle into a canal in Mesa County Sunday night, KKCO television station in Grand Junction reported.



    Colorado has a number of vampire-related interest groups, including “vampire-friendly bars and clubs” in Denver and Colorado Springs, according to an Internet search.

  2. Coming on the heels of the Nebraska citizen vote to deny businesses and landlords from hiring or renting to Illegal Aliens, the ACLU has determined it will defend these businesses in their pursuit of sanctuary driven profits.

    An eastern Nebraska city with a population of 25,000 has decided to take the burgeoning problem of [illegal] immigration into its own hands. Yesterday, Fremont, NE voted to make it illegal for employers to hire undocumented people [illegal aliens] and for landlords to rent to them. The unofficial results were 3,906 in favor to 2,908 against the measure.

    In fact, this was a case of grassroots activism; the city leadership as well as some in the religious and business communities argued against the city passing such an ordinance because it would be so costly to defend against the inevitable legal challenges.

       

    The American Civil Liberties Union has already said if the ordinance passes, it intends to file suit against the city. Fremont officials said they have plans in place that involve cuts in city services and tax increase to pay for legal fees associated with the passing of the ordinance.

    And yet, the citizens of Fremont were so outraged over the threat of encroaching illegalism that they circulated petitions and got this referendum on the ballot for a special election.

      1. The law is actually somewhat rational: it requires all local employers to use the Federal E-Verify system, and it requires renters to file for a city license to rent (said license to be denied for anyone found to be in the country illegally, and the city will do the check against the Federal DB).

        But similar laws have been struck down elsewhere in the country on Federalism grounds and I’m thinking the ACLU has a guesstimate as to the legitimacy of their suit in this case.  Immigration is still a Federal issue, and it requires action by Congress to fix the problems with it.

    1. Most places in the country would kill to have that unemployment rate right now.  Sounds like they’re more afraid because there’s been a large influx of Hispanic people to their community lately, legal or not they probably don’t know.

      The ACLU’s suit is based on something apparently foreign to the anti-brown-people movement: laws.  The Federal government still has sole legal jurisdiction over immigration issues – perhaps if you started advocating for comprehensive immigration reform on the Republican side of the aisle you might just help solve the problem.

                  1. 100% of the intelligent (support cutting military budgets.)

                      When Adlai Stevenson ran against Ike, a supporter burbled to him that

                    “All of the intelligent people are supporting you.”

                    Adlai sighed and replied:

                    “That’s not enough.  I need a majority.”

                  2. Imagine that. An incredibly condescending and totally incorrect response from my little ball of potato.

                    I respect absolute pacifism, but don’t ask me to believe that your viewpoint is anything other than a tiny minority.

                    Maybe you could give me “humanity lessons”…

                    Let’s start with insults about other people’s wives!

                    1. That’s what I’ve come to expect from you.

                      Lessons in humanity? Start takiing lessons from your wife.

                    2. Thanks, Crispin Glover of Pols, for once again proving my point about your total lack of a grip on reality or civility.

                      You are absolutely incorrect about a majority of Americans wanting to cut the Pentagon’s budget.  Sorry reality is so cruel to you.

                      BTW, my wife would tune you up.

                    3. Give them time.  Throughout history populations eventually get tired of spending tons of money and spilling blood with no concrete return on wars that have lost all relation to any identifiable or reachable goal. With about 50 Qaeda left in Afghanistan and the Taliban having mainly been our problem because they were supporting Qaeda there, just how do we benefit by staying there now? How does this make Qaeda in Pakistan less of a problem? Support does have a shelf life.

                      Look at us. Brits finally got sick of the whole thing and here we are.  More recently we can look to Vietnam.   It was worth all that sacrifice until it wasn’t.  After all that crap about dominoes and fighting to defend our freedom, we had enough, like the French before us, it fell and our freedom  was completely, entirely, absolutely… unaffected.

                      It will be the same with Afganistan.

  3. from CNN

    Unemployment benefits are set to run dry for 1.2 million people nationwide Friday after the U.S. Senate decided not to extend a deadline for these benefits last week, according to the National Employment Law Project.

    Come Saturday, the number of people cut from unemployment benefits will surge to 1.63 million, according to U.S. Department of Labor estimates. By mid-July, about 2 million unemployed Americans could lose their benefits.

    Before last month, out-of-work Americans were eligible for extensions once they maxed out at 26 weeks of state benefits and 73 weeks of federal benefits — a total of 99 weeks. But, Senate Republicans blocked the extension with a 57-14 vote last week.

    The House failed Tuesday to pass the bill and it’s unclear whether House Democratic leaders will take another crack at passing the legislation before they break for the July Fourth weekend.

  4. from TPM

    Financial reform negotiators agreed tonight on a party line vote to make fixes sought by Sens. Scott Brown, Susan Collins, and Olympia Snowe, changing the way the legislation will be paid for.



    Instead of paying for the $19 billion cost of financial regulation bill by taxing big banks, the legislation will now raise money in two ways: Ending TARP, and raising the minimum target for FDIC’s Deposit Insurance Fund.

  5. A front page banner headline about the Clinton endorsement.

    Michael Bennet may pay the price for the weak amateurish primary campaign he has run so far.

    527 Environmental money may win the primary for Bennet but at best he will be limping across the finish line

    1. Romanoff (a strong HRC supporter back in the 2008 caucus and primary days) loyalty. I think he also enjoys the occasional little dig at Obama. It was very tough for Clinton to watch Obama surpass and defeat the Clinton star power machine. I think he took it much more personally than HRC ever did. But HRC is now the happy and highly respected SOS, a valued Obama team member, and Bill won’t go so far as to campaign actively for Andrew. Nothing to get too excited about.

      1. This comes a few days before the end of the quarter and only a few weeks before ballots drop.  A lot of dems respect Bill Clinton and this can boost Romanoff in a lot of ways.  It also shows that Bennet’s ability to keep the national party behind him is not as solid as it seemed.

  6. Surely this has SOMEthing to do with Colorado politics!  Tell me BBQ isn’t political!  (Texas, SC, Kansas City, Memphis……)

    Anyway, not wanting to consume unnecessary sugar, I created this very robust sauce.  Great for diabetics, too.  Family and friends love it.  Someone who’s eaten them announced she’s flying into town and proclaimed, “I want some of those ribs!”

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com

    BTW, dontcha dare use that – patooey! – mesquite weed tree crap for smoking.  The very best is apple, and believe it or not, that crab apple in your back yard is just as good!  I have a stash of same here in Florida I brought back last year.

    BTW, the best website on all things BBQ and outdoor cooking is http://www.amazingribs.com . (And for what it’s worth, he agrees with me on the mesquite and apple.)

      1. which was all the rage a few years back. I like to slow smoke with a dry rub and serve sauce on the side where purists can leave it alone.

      2. Well, it’s just a small part of the whole mix.  Frankly, I never thought about it.  “Whats this here sauce?” is used for the total flavor, whatever the components.

        Of course, you can just leave it out.

        I, personally, put the fruit woods first in preference, the nut woods a close second. Mess-keet as a non-starter.  

        You gotta figure that for most of Texas, at least south and west, this was the only hard wood available.  I understand that.  It still sucks.  

  7. Retains his 4 star rank despite having broken military code of conduct.

    Retirement pay: $149,700 year.

    Plus assorted benefits.

    Retirement rule of having to have held rank for three years was set aside to allow his one year of service as 4 star to count.

    FUCK! I want to get fired with these terms!  

    1. and get $200 million or so for driving my company into bankruptcy, like Joe Naccio.  Plus, you get a few years freeroom and board at Club Fed thrown in!

    2. http://militarypay.defense.gov

      It’s not like he got some of his buddies at the Pentagon to hire him to the 4-star gig, run it for a month and then get a bazillion-dollar buyout package.

      We can debate the effectiveness of his military leadership (and we have) but he risked life and limb for all of the years he was in, so he gets the payout at the end.

      And while I think McSpook deserved to be fired for his attack of the dumb-ass, I will not begrudge anyone who served 25 years their retirement pay.

      1. Simply, the CEO’s aside as mentioned above, civilian jobs in private enterprise would never have been so lenient and forgiving.

        Lots of people work 25 years……..and still need to work another 25 to retire with minimum wage, in essence.  And if along the line they step on the managers or similar, they could be out the door pronto.  

        As to the danger of being in the military, it’s hyperbole, especially if you miss the wars and/or are at the top of the line.

        I crunched some numbers once and all of Viet Nam casualties, dead and (externally) wounded was about 12%.  Not to be sneezed at, but that means a soldier stood 7 chances out of 8 to return home (again, externally) intact.

        It’s like law enforcement. I appreciate the sacrifices of officers in the line of duty.  But again, stats show that there are far more dangerous occupations that don’t get the respect we give law enforcement and soldiers.

        For instance, taxi driver, convenience store clerk, and farming are all more dangerous.

        I very much appreciate the career military family’s need for constant movement and instability.  That is certainly worth something in compensation.  

        Just want to keep honest perspective on things.  

        McChrystal, at the least, should have been retired at three star, just like the rules say.  It’s not the $150/mo, it’s the principle of not giving favor…..especially after breaking the code of conduct.  

        1. by the President on this one.  Essentially he has disarmed his critics.

          Even though I think the President is a dipshit, I have to give him props for this one…

        2. It is very true most of us did not face combat. However a lot of us got pretty beat up in training for various jobs including combat duty or working in a combat zone.  I worked in a lab yet training gave me the opportunity to experience having a lot of my knee removed – and then placed back on worldwide duty. That includes being sent to places that have strange diseases and bugs and  having people trying hard to make your day a lot less than happy.

          Cops and firefighters have real bad physical jobs and 20 years of that work leaves them really beat up.  I wanted to improve the police and firefighter contracts with better health and disability coverage.  And, I am biased because I believe in better care of those who risk their lives for us, also, one of my sons is a cop and the other is a firefighter.

          1. Lots of pages with pretty much the same info presented in different formats.

            At least ten job categories more dangerous than police and fire work.

            And according to this site, http://www.businessinsider.com… the overall military fatality rate is almost exactly average for all workers.  

            Just saying lets be objective about this.  

            1. ..where you can volunteer for a military career, volunteer for the toughest and most dangerous military schools and assignments (which will have to include Infantry Officer Basic, Airborne & Ranger School, Q Course (SF) Delta Selection, and Delta Training)  serve 25 years, and THEN you can have military retirement pay.

              THAT’S being objective.

              1. like my friend did.

                Averages are averages.  

                I understand that The Military is your life, Dan.  But that isn’t a Get Out of Jail Free card countering fatality data.

  8. I went to a fund-raiser for Hick at the D Note in Olde Town Arvada (an excellent local tavern with great atmosphere), where he gave a speech slightly different from others I’ve heard him give.

    He laid out his vision for Colorado as one which articulates a commitment to the environment and to the natural beauty and pleasant life style our state has to offer, with a commitment to being a mecca for young entrepreneurs and innovative new companies. I found his vision very compelling.

    The two are not only compatable, but a natural marriage, since thriving new information-intensive economic endeavors are founded by, and staffed by, people who place high value on natural beauty and quality of life. And those same information-intensive economic endeavors are generally where the biggest economic bang-for-the-buck is to be found.

    Our environment, and our quality of life, is one of our greatest assets in this state, not only of intrinsic value, but of enormous economic value, in numerous ways, as well. We need a governor who understands this, and understands that our state, its natural beauty, and its aspirations to be a mecca for economically vibrant entrepreneurship, are all of one piece, and the kind of vision for our state and its future that all reasonable people of goodwill can get behind.

  9. During today’s hearings Sen. Lindsey Graham asked Kagan, in relation to a question about the Christmas Day Bomber, “where were you on Christmas day?” Responded Kagan, to a deserved round of applause: “You know, like all Jews, I was probably at a Chinese restaurant.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ele

      1. As a Chicago Jew I never heard of that particular custom until I saw it in a movie. Since my grandmother only knew that she was born in the old country sometime during Chanukah and everybody had the day off we always had a big extended family birthday party for her on Christmas Day.  

  10. let’s keep this date and that announcement in mind.

    If the Big Dog does indeed

    stay out of Colorado and make no

    stumps for Romanoff

    you will have my mea culpa.

    But Clinton does not strike me as that type.

      Since today’s Denver Post reports that the Clinton announcement is indeed limited to the letter and he doesn’t plan to actually press the flesh for AR, I assume we’ll get that mea culpa from you soon .

      Or are you too busy denying charges that you’re a shill for Romanoff?

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