Tuesday Open Thread

“Nobody’s angry all the time, unless you’re a psycho.”

–Brian Azzarello


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  1. Genghis says:

    To any other 70s prog geezers out there, here's hoping for a grand time at the Jon Anderson show in Boulder tonight. 

  2. MADCO says:

    Azzarello is not the quote of the day guy.

    Cuz really – there is a time and place to know that if you are not outraged, you are not paying attention. This is that time.

    “The natural distribution is neither just nor unjust; nor is it unjust that persons are born into society at some particular position. These are simply natural facts. What is just and unjust is the way that institutions deal with these facts.”  ~ John Rawls

  3. JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

    Then Mayor (and rich guy) Bloomberg's advice to graduates in 2010 included:

    “So listen to others. Ask the hard questions. Evaluate issues on the merits. And vote for the most effective leader – even if you don’t agree with him or her on every issue. As former Mayor Ed Koch of New York City once said, ‘If you agree with me on 9 of 12 issues vote for me. If you agree with me on 12 of 12, go see a psychiatrist.’"

  4. harrydobyharrydoby says:

    Not politics per se, but I wanted to give a shout out to Michael Bowman and his contributions in growing a new industry in Colorado (and nationally) that has tremendous potential in thousands of products and provide an economic boost to Colorado farmers!

    • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

      Thanks, harry! For 2019 Colorado appears to (again) be the #1 hemp state in the nation.  For all of Yertle's proclamations of the Blue Grass State being the leader, it appears CO has bested them by over 30,000 acres this year. (80,000 CO acres v. 50,000 KY acres).  We're blessed with having a Governor who understood its potential long ago, a state department of agriculture that is second-to-none on the issue and a new crop of farmers (and even some old ones) who are ready for the transition.  

      • JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

        Excellent …

        So, is the largest current problem the federal government getting a clear policy endorsement and a clear regulatory environment?  Or something different?

        • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

          The biggest problem facing the hemp industry presently is insufficient processing capacity for the exploding supply of fiber.

          That is what I hear. The laws…banking, insurance…etc. Those are just a matter of time. Now that Wall St. and American industry accept the financial reality, the next biggest issue will be the assault on independent growers.

           Am I off base with any of this, Michael?

          • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

            The 2018 law is clear: hemp has been removed in its entirety from the Controlled Substances Act and reclassified as an agricultural crop.  Still, states have to submit plans that will demonstrate how they plan to register and oversee the cultivation and processing.  The 2018 law also extended the 2014 law for one year while the new rules are being put in place.  The problem with that particular part is that the 2014 law (intended generally for research and pre-commercialization purposes) was that it didn't accommodate banking and interstate transportation of legally-produced product.  We were fortunate in the years between 2014-2018 that our dysfunctional congress did provide cover for us: the perennial Continuing Resolutions always had a rider or two to cover those bases. 

            So we're operating this year under a law not intended for cultivation at this scale.  To compound the problem we've actually passed a budget so no CR this year to give us cover.  In the meantime various agencies have interpreted the law differently.  Some (like Treasure, DOJ) say that until all of the components of the 2018 law have been enacted, none have been enacted.  Others, like the Bureau of Reclamation, say hemp was descheduled on Dec 20, 2018 and are allowing water from federal projects to be delivered this year.  The Postal Service in some cases are shipping product (as do FedEx and UPS – albeit quietly).  All of these matters are expected to be resolved for the 2020 crop year when all of the new federal rules will be in place. 

            That leaves the FDA issue (regarding CBD oil). Earlier in 2018 GW Pharaceuticals got FDA approval for their CBD-based product Epidiolex.  FDA rules typically bar an ingredient like CBD being a food/beverage additive if it's been approved as a drug (this is similar to the fish oil problem: high doses for medical purposes, low doses for nutritional supplements).  It's preposterous that CBD should be treated as a drug, but they have their process for making that determination which can be as long as 5 years.  I just don't think the markets (and particularly the big public companies who want in this space) have that kind of patience given the consumer demand for the product.   Congress may have to step in -and given it's an election year and McConnell in particular is underwater in Kentucky he'll be looking for some talking points. 

            To Duke's statement, he is correct.  Although the infrastructure for CBD oil is well-developed, the thousands of other things that can be made from the plant are waiting for investment.  That should start to flow in 2020 once the banking problems are solved and we can tap programs in the SBA/USDA-Rural Development sphere. The assault on small producers is a perennial problem. With options like First Crop we hope to provide some opportunities for that group so they can compete with the big boys.

  5. Mike W. says:

    The East Coast continues to ignore the other 9,457 candidates in our Senate race, polling only a head-to-head with the signature undeclared candidate.


    • VoyageurVoyageur says:

      In the clearing stands a yeoman,

      Stalwart, brave, and his aim is true.

      How the villains fear this Bowman,

      Who fights for the rights of me and you.

      At his side notaskinnycook

      Steadies the ranks with a loving look

      In this war for a nation’s fate

      Victory goes to those without hate.

    • kwtreemamajama55 says:

      The pundits and consultants don’t trust actual voters to make up our own minds. So they have to flood us with push polls, invisible polls, and false-choice polls, all to create this aura of inevitability when Hick finally bows into the race with a gracious, “Well, since you insist.”

      But he is a terrible candidate, “inevitability” and “electability” or no. Watch his Presidential debate performances.  He makes gaffes, he can’t defend his record, he mocks people that most Coloradans like , and he’s said publicly on multiple occasions that he doesn’t want the Senate job, and doesn’t think he’d be any good at it. Tell me that his opponents aren’t already preparing attack ads featuring Hick saying, “I’m not cut out to be a Senator.”

      I want to see Hick debate with Dr. Stephany Spaulding, with Senators Andrew Romanoff, Alice Madden,  and Angela Williams. They’re all better speakers than he is, like being Senators and are demonstrably good at it, and they can articulate current issues better.

      If/when Hick finally bows to pundit (not public) pressure and enters the race, expect him to avoid debate like the plague, for just those reasons. 

      • VoyageurVoyageur says:

        So, you're trimming your endorsement list to just four?  What happened to Trish Zornio and all the other really obscure women you used to champion?

        • kwtreemamajama55 says:

          I’ll publish a diary with my endorsements, when I’m ready to do that. Trish Zornio is an accomplished, researching, teaching scientist on the cutting edge of biotechnology; Bray is a psychologist and climate activist. Zornio unfortunately thought that 314 Action was sincere about supporting scientists in the public sphere. It isn’t. 

          314 told Zornio that their real interest was in which candidate would raise more funds for the organization. Hence, they commissioned a PPP push poll, and another really egregious push poll, as you yourself noted, endorsing Hickenlooper, who last worked as a geologist in 1986, and infamously sipped fracking fluid as a political stunt.


          • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

            One other fact might be of interest to some here…

            There is one other person with the detached smugness to claim having tasted hydraulic fracturing fluid. That person happened to be a spokesperson for COGA…Kathy Hall.

            For me…until Gov. Frackenlooper disavows his publicity stunt and offers some measure of contrition, he has zero credibility with me.

          • VoyageurVoyageur says:

            I checked out Zornio's website and she's actually pretty impressive.  I just have problems with the idea of a U.S. Senate seat as an entry level position.  I know and admire both Madden and Romanov but their recent outings have been failures.

            I prefer a nice Chardonnay to fracking fluid with dinner.  But Hick would probably win, big time.  You don't need a push poll to learn that, just look at the record.

            For.now, my attitude is to wish them all well and let the convention sort them out.  Romanov is the only one to contact me personally and ask my support.  Even has-beens have feelings and I admit I was touched by that.

  6. Blackie says:

    It doesn't work for me either–just go to the front page of the Huffpo. 

  7. JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

    WAPO has a standard take on Bennet.

    Bennet is pursuing the presidency as the anti-Donald Trump: measured and moderate. Contemplative and competent. With the energy in the Democratic Party radiating from the left and the president so often shouting from the right, Bennet’s journey has been a lonely road.

    But he insists he won’t change course.

    [James] Carville said he’s spoken to other Democrats who believe Bennet would make the best president out of any candidate in the field. Carville said he would make an even better nominee than Joe Biden because “he’d be new, different, younger and … could project forward.”

    • MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

      I happen to like Bennet a lot (and that comes from beginnings where I was a skeptic).  He's competent and strategic.  I'm sending him (and encouraging friends) to send a buck or two to keep him on the stage and the cards will fall where they may.  Would I rather he be slightly more progressive on issues in the past?  Sure. But given the make-up of our state demographic I think he serves the broad population well. 

    • notaskinnycooknotaskinnycook says:

      I think he'd be good. I just wish he had more charisma. Unfortunately, I don't think quiet and competent will win the day in 2020. Not against a blowhard like The Screaming Yam. If he calls Biden "Sleepy Joe", what will he think up for our Boy Wonder?

  8. CaninesCanines says:

    According to the New York Times today, this is one of President Trump’s campaign rally songs:

  9. Diogenesdemar says:

    You must sell the ice! . . . 

    . . . No, I won’t sell the ice!

    But, you must sell the ice! . . . 

    . . . No, I can’t sell the ice!

    You must sell the ice!

    . . . How ‘bout I make you a really sweet deal on Norwegia, instead?


    Trump cancels Denmark trip after PM says Greenland isn't for sale




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