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June 07, 2010 09:19 PM UTC

Maes supports Vermont style "no permit" gun carry

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  • by: allyncooper

( – promoted by Middle of the Road)

I received an email from the Maes campaign today in which he did some “esplaining” to assuage the fears of his natural constituents, the red meat gun toten conservatives.

As Dan explains, he was sent a questionnaire from the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners asking his stands on various gun positions. For those not aware of what RMGO is, it is an organization of gun owners and second amendment advocates that was formed because they contended the NRA was too timid in defending gun “rights”. So think NRA types on steroids, the perfect Tea Party profile.

In his mea culpa, Dan says he filled out the questionnaire while pressed for time and put down a “no” for supporting a Vermont style conceal carry law, and a “no” for repeal of the Brady law. Brady needs no explanation, but the Vermont style conceal carry law really isn’t a law at all, because in Vermont there are no restrictions on concealed handgun carry…no background check, no firearms training requirement, no permitting, in fact no regulations of any kind on who can carry a concealed weapon.

Predictably, the shit hit the fan when these responses were publicized to RMGO members and the public, with Maes subsequently backtracking from his “no” response on the Vermont style carry law after he was vilified for his responses ( his email doesn’t say anything about Brady, apparently the less said about that the better).

Maes now says:

If the people of Colorado want a Vermont style conceal carry law and the repeal of the current background check law, and the legislature places them on my desk for signature, I will sign them.  

Maes gingerly addresses the issue by saying if the people want a Vermont style concealed weapons law, he won’t stand in their way. And Dan’s campaign has always been about putting the people first, right?

Of course the people demanding a Vermont style law is about as likely to happen as the people electing Maes governor, so perhaps this guys onto something.

Colorado has a concealed weapons permitting system that is working well. It protects the second amendment rights of law abiding gun owners who choose to carry while at the same time promoting public safety by requiring background checks, weapons training certification, and necessary and proper regulations and restrictions on concealed weapon carry. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Maes’ pandering to his red meat base is of course necessary to his campaign, but his disingenuous flip flop on the issue is revealing more of Maes the politician and less the “principled conservative” as he comes under greater scrutiny.

 

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29 thoughts on “Maes supports Vermont style “no permit” gun carry

  1. Don’t mind filling out the paperwork, and waiting to get their permit. That’s because most responsible gun owners would rather wait and go through the bureaucracy than just let whoever wants to carry a gun do so.

  2. At this point, is there any pandering that is untouchable by the Republicans? Is there a third rail for any of these candidates, any issue that at least one of them won’t try and maneuver further right on?

    I suppose this is sort of a rhetorical question, come to think of it.  

          1. I am in general support of the second amendment, with the proviso there is a compelling public safety issue denying ownership and concealed permits to certain individuals as above.

            BTW, I grew up hunting and shooting and I have a concealed weapons permit.  

  3. The second time in as many weeks that Maes has had to explain himself and flip-flopped on a pretty important issue especially for his base.  Agreed that he is more of a politician than he wants people to think.  Alert to Tea Party people is he really the guy you think he is?

    1. The point of contention is in the famous matter of the interpretation and that pesky comma and militia concept.

      I, one of millions, believe that the right “to bear arms” IS predicated on participating in a militia, which we don’t have any more.

      The Supreme Court has decided otherwise and I accept that as the law of the land.  Hopefully, in the long haul of time, that ruling will be the Plessy v. Ferguson of gun rights.

      (I really have NO problem with responsible gun ownership, hunting, or target shooting.  The NRA, to say nothing of the RMGOA, is over the top, way past responsible ownership like they used to be.  Heck, I got my NRA safe hunter certification when I was a Boy Scout.)

  4. on this website?

    this flip flop issue is revealing more of maes the politician and less the “experienced” hero the tea partiers are so hoping for.

    1. Maes also changed his position on Roe V. Wade and on illegal immigration. See previous pols stories for more info. Not to mention that just about every talking point he uses now is something he picked up on the campaign trail from other candidates. For someone who claims to hate politicians so much, he sure acts like the worst kind of politicians.  

      1. I saw that roe v. wade post on here.  It got pretty heated let me tell you.  I think it’s going to be easy for the McInnis campaign to kick Maes out with all of this recent news.  There doesn’t seem to be a lot of news with McInnis lately.

  5. After raising only $30,000 last month and $118,000 to date one would have to assume that Dan’s campaign will be coming to a screeching halt sometime in the near future. How is he supposed to compete with Hick’s $1.4 million? One of my coworkers received an email where he was actually asking people to print on their own dime his fliers to pass door-to-door. How many people are really going to do that? I also saw the Colorado Independent story where Dan reimbursed himself $35,000 for mileage including $5,000 for the first 4 months of the year. Any truth to the latest rumor that Dan has had others paying his mortgage, including a lobbyist?  

    1. I’m surprised that the mileage story alone hasn’t blown Maes’ campaign out of the water. It’s so obviously WRONG and UNETHICAL.

      Although I guess for something to be blown out of the water, it has to have been in the water to begin with – which Maes’ campaign has not. The fact that Maes got top-of-the-ballot preference just shows how ridiculously extreme the Colorado GOP has become recently.

      1. Really the only concrete thing we know is that he can’t be governor.  But after that we have no clue on his record or his possibly unethical campaign money issues.  But rumors that stay around this long usually have a reason for sticking it out as long as these have.  Usually they have a bit of truth in them.

  6. First Maes says that he is on both sides of abortion and now he is straddling the fence on one of our constitutional rights; ie the right to carry weapons. What is the next issue you are going to flip flop on Maes?

  7. Dan has said what he thinks the people want to hear this whole election cycle, not what he believes in. First the immigration situation, then abortion, and now this. No one should be surprised. He wants votes. Beyond the tea party his support is minimal.  Any takers on what comes out of his mouth next. I am thinking he wants to legalize crack, because that is what the crack heads want. All the votes he can get he will take.

  8. Spotting a probably non-answer:

    The answer starts with the word “If”.

    Spotting a definite non-answer:

    The answer starts with the words “If the people of Colorado want…”

    This is a perfect non-answer!  

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