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May 26, 2010 01:49 AM UTC
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as a group, physicians and attorneys, who I think tend toward the right, are pretty tight, as well.
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are good tippers.
except my friend Hans.
I hear he tips in elk meat.
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we better eat ’em before the spongiform encephalitis does.
so we can tell our grandkids what they tasted like.
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Who cares about this?
No one has complained about Buck and Gardner’s tipping habits until now. It’s just a cheap shot.
I’ll be here all night
Tip your waitstaff!
then round up.
More if its great service, never less. But then I am neither a Republican nor a candidate. And I believe in sharing wealth. I am lucky, fortunate, fed. What you give is what you get.
When I lived in UT there was a constant complaint that Mormons were terrible tippers–“God only takes 10% why should servers get more?” was the excuse I heard.
Utah is not only one of the redder of the reddest states, but has one of the highest per capita uses of pornography, prescription medicine abuse, and–apparently–lots of lousy tippers.
But I would hate to paint all Republicans with a broad brush…
I worked in the service industry in Denver for 20 years, including 15 as a bartender at a really popular restaurant in LoDo.
There is absolutely no correlation between party and tipping. Want my Bill Clinton stories? Of course not. His entourage tipped us.
If this is as hard-hitting as Pols is getting at this point…
and generous R’s.
this diary was about the specific’s of NN’s kid’s experience.
When in college, I served Owens, Ritter and Hickenlooper each multiple times at a bar in downtown known for “governors”. Thankfully, I’ve graduated and moved on.
Ritter was always standard 20% and polite, but not very talkative. Owens gave you whatever change was left over from paying his tab–usually less than 10% and acted like you were blessed to serve him. Hickenlooper I served multiple times, never less than 30% and was demanding, but pretty cool.
Also of note, Hick would personally remove his son from the joint when he was acting up and walk him around outside for the sake of the other diners. His wife would ask me for a rag to clean up the little kid’s mess herself “because I shouldn’t have to.” Owens’s daughter and her teenage friends, however, seemed to mistake the establishment for a roadhouse and would discard whatever they felt was unpalatable (garnish, pickles, tomato) directly onto the table or the floor for me to slip on as I collected their remnant pennies. To top it off, he would request that he have the only table in the section, so the lucky server could focus solely on him and his non-existent gratuity. Gee I miss him.
So what percentage did they tip? This sounds like a hit piece without hard evidence to back it up. It may be true, guys like Ken Buck are pretty short on money. But in general Republicans give way more to charity than Democrats – they think it’s the government’s responsibility, not theirs.
Gardner was right at 15%, Buck a little under.
I understand if you don’t want to believe my anecdotal evidence — this is the internet, after all. But, while I don’t suffer under any delusions ANY of my kids are perfect, this particular one isn’t very politically oriented, and only dished these details because they thought I’d be amused.
Which I was. And I figured at least some folks here would ALSO be amused.
But the advice about tipping as a sadly under-utilized method of self-promotion and political gain is right on, and applies across the board to any aspiring candidate or party. So I think I’m balancing out my snark with sound advice to anyone who wants to listen. Can’t be fairer than that.
I believe you. I usually tip 15% – that’s the standard gratuity added to parties of 8 or more.
Is that before or after loaning his campaign $100,000?
When Bennet visited our town and spoke at a local restaurant at lunch time, the group pretty much sank the ship for servers and their tips. A friend mentioned to someone on the campaign that they ought to leave a tip and……drum roll…….. the campaign left a whopping ten bucks. I’m sure Bennet had nothing to do with it and I don’t think caucuses matter at all, but the cheap tip cost him support at the caucus.
I doubt it will sway even one voter when Bennet ends up on the ballot for November, but it is a cautionary tale in support of NN’s post.
Every person before moving on to a career position should be required to work for tips for at least one year.
or $5, whichever is higher. Because we mostly go to modest establishments, our tab for breakfast/lunch is is in 20/25 dollar range. My wife and kids all took their turns as wait staff in younger days and we just want to be fair. At the same time, I’m not the kind of guy who flashes really big tips.
When I’ve traveled in this country, I’ve noticed that people seem to expect a 15-20% tip regardless of the quality of service. When traveling in Europe, a much smaller amount is expected. I suspect the difference has to do with wages in part, but it’s left me confused nonetheless. NOTE: the service I’ve received in Europe is generally worse than I get here….does tipping have something to do with it?
(I realize that my status as a non-European and/or non-fluent customer may also have an impact on the service I get in Europe)
in the US people are paid sub minimum wage.
In most European countries there was no tipping (or nominal tipping) until Americans brought their habits.
Personally, I have been known to stiff people when I get bad service, as a former bartender/waiter/busboy/ bad service pisses me off. But when I do, I tell the person I am stiffing them for specific reasons (“you never came back to the table”, “I waited 15 minutes for a drink when the place was dead and I saw you jawing with another staffer” etc.). I generally tip high (especially on cheap bills), because I think the tip should reflect the service and I get good service most places.
I get good service in most places too. I’ve wondered, as I suggested earlier, whether the tipping has much to do with it. Where people expected nominal tips, I have not generally received great service. But, compared to what? Compared to those whose livelihood depended upon good tips…….is that a fair comparison I wonder.
the tip is included in the bill as a service charge or a table charge depending on what country you are in.
And as Danny noted, they usually make a good living wage, unlike here. At the end of the day, it really depends on the individual country but most countries in Europe would find it insulting to be tipped more than 10%. Best bet is to read up before you visit a particular country so you know what to expect when it comes to cabs, restaurants, hotel service, et al.
Oftentimes, the menu will say ‘service included,’ in my experience. But I’ve struggled with what to do when the menu is not so explicit. Your advice as to research on tips has proved invaluable, I must say. I also ask around. But, my shyness about asking in person has been a problem. Not the worst problem in the world, I acknowledge.
Earnest wrote:
I view that as odd too. I actually tip 20% for solid-to-good service, but I vary that:
– based on bill size — like a few folks have said, on a small bill, like $8-10, I’ll give a few bucks, which is more like 25-40%; and
– the 1-2% of the time I get really terrible service (not just screwing up one thing, but being jerky or flat-out not getting me something, like leaving me uncomfortably thirsty after I ask for a drink twice), I’ll give 10% or less. I mean, the whole logic of tips is really, “leave a fraction of the wages up to the discretion of the customer.” So I average 18-20%, but that’s probably an average of 20%+ for solid service and much less for crappy service by the very small % of folks who make the dining experience unpleasant.
1. T.I.P = “To Insure Promptness.” I doubt it, probably more just like tip of the hat.
2. At the Brown Palace when the world wide oncology convention came to Denver, the French and Aussies were the worst tippers. That held generally true, convention or not.
3. Instead of leaving no tip for very bad service, I leave a very sub-standard tip. They know I wasn’t forgetful, then.
4. Some years ago I was driving vans on an as needed basis for trips into the mountains, usually Central City for gambling. One day my pickup was in Commerce City, not exactly Cherry Hills demographics. I figured that this would not be a high tipping trip……boy, was I ever wrong. The best of my “career.” Not only the most money, but they collected it and gave it to me as I dropped them off at the casino! The answer to this behavior was obvious on a second’s reflection: Every person or household in that van worked for tips, either at some time or presently. The worst tippers I ever got was a small group of teachers in town for a convention. Triple the income of the working folks, a third of the tip.
5. Regularly tipped employees get only half of the minimum wage. (Thank you President Reagan and the compliant congress!) So tipping is essential for them to make any reasonable wages. It’s not their fault, blame the Republicans looking for cheap labor.
Regularly tipped employees get much less than the minimum wage (which is now $7.25 federally as of the most recent increase). They are generally expected to get enough in tips to add up to $7.25. This means for a 40-hour shift in a week they have to make over $200 just in tips, just to earn what they’d make at McDonald’s.
In Colorado tipped employees get a minimum wage of $4.22 per hour, so it’s not quite as bad. But nobody should imagine that tipping is optional.
If you don’t tip, they call the cops. It’s considered stealing. I like that law.
I suppose anyone CAN call the cops, but it’s NOT stealing, and there’s no “thou must tip” law.
Interesting New York Times article on this:
Don’t know where I got the bad info. Must have picked it up somewhere along the way.
There have been a number of lawsuits alleging fraud-based criminal racketeering schemes by restaurant owners, sometimes in collaboration with corrupt union dudes, to confiscate tips. The restaurants say “this isn’t really the waitstaff’s money,” and they lose; it is.
Except most of the good waiter/bartender gigs, one can make $100-$200 in a single shift. And the shifts are usually shorter than 8 hours, and some places you can do multiple shifts in a day.
I didn’t mind making $2.13 an hour at all. It almost paid for my taxes from my tips.
If you get weekday shifts at a slow place, you make shit, no matter how good you are. At a place in a good location on busy nights, you can make over $100 a night.
But getting those jobs takes years, according to everyone I’ve asked. At the entry level, you’re not making anywhere close to that.